Who is the most popular streamer?(Numbers inside!) - Page 13

On May 01 2012 04:06 Aunvilgod wrote:


How is this even possible?

On May 01 2012 10:18 GreEny K wrote:


I don't even know who Hui is, care to share?

On May 01 2012 09:13 Areon wrote:
There's a huge problem with this. Destiny is only 10th? Really? Every time I see him streaming he has at least 5k viewers. Surprised to see IdrA leading the pack.

On May 01 2012 10:13 kyllinghest wrote:
I think its both interesting an healthy for sc2 as a "sport" that the number one streamer is infact a very average player. Shows that people actually stick with their man, although he isn't performing very well at all. This is a good thing! Supporters are more important than fans!

On May 01 2012 04:15 IMoperator wrote:
You see Idra's numbers and think that's a lot but then you realize that LoL streamers get basically double that consistently. Pretty crazy.

On May 01 2012 12:53 althaz wrote:
No way idra is in the top 10-15 foreigners...but I think he's probably still top 20-30 EASILY. Losing to cheese constantly means you are bad, btw, no different to losing in macro games. Just off the top of my head, here's 15 foreigners that every pro-gamer would agree is better than idra:
Huk (lots better)
Thorzain (lots better)
Naniwa (lots better)
Grubby
Sheth (lots better)
Ret
Sen
Nerchio (lots better)
Mana (lots better)
Kas (lots better)
Feast
Stephano (lots better)
Nightend
Demuslim
SaSe (lots better)

There's probably more, but those are just the first 15 I thought of. Being good at one matchup means being bad at two, which means being bad at Starcraft . idra is NOT bad, he is a fantastic player, but he is ina bit of a slump at the moment. He has the skill to get back into the top 3-5 again (where he was for most of last year, IMO), but he's nowhere near that recently.

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On May 01 2012 10:26 udgnim wrote:


disagree

if personality is valued more than player skill, then it places SC2 in a more tenuous position

example, whenever the last foreigner gets eliminated in a major tournament, concurrent stream viewership drops significantly because the SC2 general viewership is not a fan or can't relate to most Koreans due to language barrier

SC2 as an e-sport would be far bigger right now if the gap between Koreans and foreigners wasn't so noticeably big and currently there are only Huk, Naniwa, Stephano, and Thorzain keeping the foreigner hope alive. if Korea gets to the point where the best SC2 foreigner hope can only compete against Korea's B level players, then SC2 e-sports will start to die off

Idra's BM/controversial actions aren't the road to keeping SC2 relevant or growing as an e-sport. It's just an amusing diversion as a talking point.

On May 01 2012 14:50 NoGasfOu wrote:
Skill doesn't matter much when it comes to the number of viewers. Most people like to watch their "homeboys" only. I would say in order to have a ton of viewers you need to be or have the followings, the most important on top:

1. Are you a foreigner?
Obviously the most important factor, since 95% of people involving in Starcraft 2 are foreigners. When I watch Koreans' streams, I would say about 0.5% of the text in chat is Korean. The rest is in English. This doesn't mean any foreign streamer would get 4 digit viewers. You would need to have the followings too:

2. Are you an American?
Probably 50% of Starcraft 2 fans are American. Idra is the billboard of American Starcraft. nuff said. People like to root and watch their home town hero.

3. Hypes
True hypes or false hypes. Doesn't matter. You need to be a "paris hilton" and walk around swinging your tail and say "I'm hot and I have personality", "you don't have personality like Koreans? Boring....."

4. Code S. The least that matters, except if you're a foreign Code S player. Doesn't matter how many bailout seed you've received to obtain code S status, if you're a foreign Code S you get 10 times the viewers as a Korean Code S (not exagerating at all). If Naniwa doesn't get 6k viewers when he starts streaming again, I'll kill myself. Better to receive a seed than being a man in Code B Jinro!

Look at Jjakji! A code S champion and I've never even seen 1k viewers on his stream. He's not a foreigner. He doesn't have the hypes. All he has is a Code S trophy and somewhere around 300 to 500 viewers after he got his trophy and started streaming.

So, what's the deadliest combination? Foreigner (American would be a plus) + hype + personality + Code S (don't need to be a champion, twitch can't handle the viewer count)

On May 01 2012 11:37 MVega wrote:


The most popular ones yes, but not all of them. Also being a team game there are fewer LoL streamers than SC2 streamers. Or so it seems to me looking at stream lists. Meaning if you want to watch LoL there are fewer choices where with SC2 there are tons of pros and almost pros streaming at any given time so the viewers are more split up between them.