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Dawg_Snow
Profile Joined September 2011
France425 Posts
April 28 2012 14:44 GMT
#461
What is with all this hating, let s be happy for him and wish him Good luck !
Stephano, Sarens, Tarson, Mana, MMA, MVP -- Dawg EU Master Terran
watchman
Profile Joined January 2012
8 Posts
April 28 2012 15:10 GMT
#462
Cheers for the young zerg frenchman; happy for him.
Sorry for not quoting the post above, but do you really think naniwa is on sc2 only to win ? i'm pretty much sure he likes money like everyone does; Stephano is a bit of a trollman and even if he allways says he plays only for the money, that's not the only reason and maybe not the main reason (pure allegation here). The feeling of winning in front of thousands of people must be really great; i think he earned now enough money to start his studies (medical school in france is public, so really cheap) ; the fact he's staying one more year could mean he likes the game very much and wants to get fame and great trophies !
Besides that, why all korean progamer hate Naniwa ? Is it because of the probe story allin in gsl or is it about his general behaviour ? i'm not a huge fan because he didn't show much respect in Korea towards the progamers by doing that probe rush, but maybe it's time to get over it ?
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 15:19:39
April 28 2012 15:18 GMT
#463
On April 28 2012 23:27 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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On April 28 2012 23:18 tdt wrote:
Why does GSL take like 2 months when other can do tounaments in 3 days? Sucks GSL takes so long or I belive many more foriegners would be in there and Stephanp would have been there long ago.


Better GSL is better and more important than all those other lesser tournaments. They also understand that a good tournament is about letting players prepare for their games not make them play 25 standard ladder style games in a row.



I am not actually sure that is the reasoning behind GSL's format. I think it is more to do with allowing GOM to have more content to broadcast. If a GSL can be wrapped up in a single weekend/4 days then what are GOM going to broadcast the rest of the month? By spreading out the games over a longer time period, it means that GOM can spend days broadcasting the tournament. The fact that players can prepare for a known opponent is just a by-product of the schedule and not the reason for the schedule.

I think it quite possible that more players would prefer a shorter duration tournament because otherwise there is a lot of downtime between GSL's with little chance of winning money in Korea (at least at the time of the GSL's formation). The format of GSL means that half the players are knocked out in the first round and then what are they going to do? They have no earning opportunities until a month or so later. I know there are now more Korean tournaments to potentially earn money in but this was not the case when GSL was set up in it's current format.

It would be interesting to get the thoughts from Korean pro-gamers as to whether they would prefer a domestic scene with more frequent tournaments of shorter duration like in the Foreign Scene.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 28 2012 15:42 GMT
#464
On April 28 2012 23:44 Dawg_Snow wrote:
What is with all this hating, let s be happy for him and wish him Good luck !


I don't know, between the drama here and in the MVPMonster interview thread I'm beginning to think there's been a recent rise in spite for some reason. =(

Of course good luck to Stephano.
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TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
April 28 2012 16:41 GMT
#465
Meh, maybe he would improve from playing in Korea, but i prefer Euro/US tours without or with only a few koreans so dont care at all for him going to korea -_-
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 28 2012 16:47 GMT
#466
On April 29 2012 00:42 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 23:44 Dawg_Snow wrote:
What is with all this hating, let s be happy for him and wish him Good luck !


I don't know, between the drama here and in the MVPMonster interview thread I'm beginning to think there's been a recent rise in spite for some reason. =(

Of course good luck to Stephano.


Personal I belive is the former BW fans they so used to koreans dominating in BW that they simply hate all other none koreans.
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plutonowy
Profile Joined August 2011
Afghanistan287 Posts
April 29 2012 08:04 GMT
#467
Yeeeeyyyyyy
Superb news!
Fan of gomtv code s. Best SC2. KR >>>ALL Tasteless + Artosis >>>ALL
zajeBEASTY
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland40 Posts
April 29 2012 09:39 GMT
#468
Great! I hope he will perform well;)
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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
April 29 2012 09:51 GMT
#469
On April 28 2012 23:18 tdt wrote:
Why does GSL take like 2 months when other can do tounaments in 3 days? Sucks GSL takes so long or I belive many more foriegners would be in there and Stephanp would have been there long ago.


the fact it takes so long is what makes me put more weight on a GSL win over an MLG win.

it's one thing to win a tournament where your opponents know OF you.

but it's another to win a tournament where your opponents know you.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
April 29 2012 09:59 GMT
#470
On April 28 2012 23:27 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Better GSL is better and more important than all those other lesser tournaments. They also understand that a good tournament is about letting players prepare for their games not make them play 25 standard ladder style games in a row.

Exactly this is why I dont like. Preparing something is good/excellent for underdogs and better players are more afraid against underdogs.
This is why I like 3days tournaments much more.
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Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 10:04:16
April 29 2012 10:03 GMT
#471
We'll see how the longer GSL seasons are going to play out after HotS hits and the metagame will be shifting like crazy with every other patch.

Maybe they'll scale them down again to make room for other leagues before that happens though.
b0ub0u
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada445 Posts
April 29 2012 14:18 GMT
#472
Good luck my man u deserve it!
In the swarm we trust
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
April 29 2012 15:20 GMT
#473
People trying to downplay Naniwa's ro8 results don't seem to understand how big of an accomplishment it is. Naniwa is holding his own among some of the best koreans (and thus players) in the world. He's not the best in the tournament obviously, and i would take anyone remaining in ro8 as favorites over him, but he is damn good and there are less than 5 foreign players who could attempt it.
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Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
April 29 2012 15:41 GMT
#474
On April 29 2012 18:59 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 23:27 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Better GSL is better and more important than all those other lesser tournaments. They also understand that a good tournament is about letting players prepare for their games not make them play 25 standard ladder style games in a row.

Exactly this is why I dont like. Preparing something is good/excellent for underdogs and better players are more afraid against underdogs.
This is why I like 3days tournaments much more.


This is all part of what makes good players good though. Somebody like idra struggles under this format specifically because his lesser skilled opponents can study his builds and come up with a perfect counter. Someone like MKP (lately) isn't going to have the same problems because he is constantly mixing up his play.

You only really need to be good at being greedy and scraping by the early game to dominate an MLG. But in GSL, it you're predictable, you'll rarely make it past the RO16 and definitely never win it.
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Marddox
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom108 Posts
April 29 2012 22:31 GMT
#475
So he can just get invited yet other players have to work hard and qualify through code B and code A?
We didn't have no "4 gates" back in the probe drought, no sir! we only had 1 gate, chrono and probes to defend!
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
April 30 2012 00:18 GMT
#476
I bet he wont make it to the ro8. Gogo Nani!
anycolourfloyd
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia524 Posts
April 30 2012 00:33 GMT
#477
i can't see stephano making setting the world on fire in one GSL.. i think he'll need to put more into training for and getting experience in the GSL. but i look forward to watching him for sure.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
April 30 2012 01:04 GMT
#478
On April 30 2012 00:20 zefreak wrote:
People trying to downplay Naniwa's ro8 results don't seem to understand how big of an accomplishment it is. Naniwa is holding his own among some of the best koreans (and thus players) in the world. He's not the best in the tournament obviously, and i would take anyone remaining in ro8 as favorites over him, but he is damn good and there are less than 5 foreign players who could attempt it.


I reckon he has a decent chance against MVP. MVP is obviously not in top form due to his wrist issue and NaNiwa has been playing incredibly well lately.
EsMuyVien
Profile Joined July 2011
United States408 Posts
April 30 2012 04:00 GMT
#479
Hell fucking yea! Now only for IdrA, HuK, and SaSe to get back into form and join those two!
If what I think is happening is happening - it better not be.
MrStabby
Profile Joined February 2011
United States24 Posts
April 30 2012 06:46 GMT
#480
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