EPTStephano invited to Code S - Page 23
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midftw
Canada170 Posts
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On April 28 2012 01:20 songohan wrote: so drawing MVP is bracket luck? lol ROFL, Drawing MVP and not playing him definitely is ... but once again, never said Naniwa is not a a top foreign player, he just had a good amount of luck through his run in this GSL. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On April 28 2012 01:20 songohan wrote: so drawing MVP is bracket luck? lol oh hi! how long have you been absent from the tournament scene? i really hope, stephano makes a deep run, so we see atleast one Z in the RO 8 ;-) | ||
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latan
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Benjamin99
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esaul17
Canada547 Posts
On April 28 2012 01:36 Benjamin99 wrote: MC just sayd in a recent interview that he is very happy Stephano is finaly comming and it means GSL got now the 3 best zergs in the world. Thats MC words really nice praise Link to interview? | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On April 28 2012 01:36 Benjamin99 wrote: MC just sayd in a recent interview that he is very happy Stephano is finaly comming and it means GSL got now the 3 best zergs in the world. Thats MC words really nice praise MC so boss. His respect really carries weight. | ||
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M7Jagger
Sweden237 Posts
On April 28 2012 00:27 Emix_Squall wrote: You just don't watch code S to say that. Or you watch it with your eyes closed maybe I don't see how it could be otherwise. Anyone who watched enough code S game will tell you advancing in code S implicates a BIG amount of luck. Of course we're talking about luck for some players who are all some of the bests in the world but it doesn't mean they can't get lucky like everyone at some point. Saying that playing any MU or against any player in code S is difficult for everyone, is just retarded ... you sir must not watch the same competition we all do. The players all got their strengths and weaknesses, therefore they are lucky when all the MU they play are of their strongest MU. It's not more complicated than that .... a 5 year old would understand ... You must be a big Naniwa fan-boy to be that much blind folded ... Now about who is the best foreigner in the world right now .... everyone has their favourite players but to me the only reliable information is what pro gamers themselves say. Especially those from Korea, and recently the feedback that were heard are mainly that Stephano is the one Korean players "fear" the most ... Most of them agree on that. Naniwa is still a beast, Huk is still very good too, and Thorzain is technically the one of them with the highest ELO. You can make a fanboy interpretation of things or base yourself on reliable informations like feedbacks from pro gamers or ELO rankings (even though some would argue Thorzain's victory at DreamHack was nothing since they were so few Korean players attending...). Personally I tend to believe those who know this game best, not a fanboy ... Edit: love your little "end of story" ending ... like anyone's gonna stop posting on that subject because of that ... I must admit, i am a huge fan of Naniwa. I admire him so much because of the fact that he is the only foreigner that says "fuck the power of expectation, i'm a foreigner but i'm still gonna advance in Code S". I also love his mentality, his goal in SC is not to make money, become famous, his goal is to win. So yeah, i like naniwa alot and maybe that does affect my judgement, but i'm not blind because of that. Anyways, i'm not saying he didn't have any luck, all i'm saying is that i don't think luck is such a big deal as everyone seems to think it is and i don't think the luck he has had in Code S so far has determined weather or not he would've come this far. If Naniwas succes in Code S was based on luck, he wouldn't make it to the finals in MLG, he wouldn't defeat nestea several times, he wouldn't have defeatet nestea and right after that beating Leenock and even making it to Code S. No, the luck is not a determined factor, not in this case. The reason why i get so irritated whenever people just won't accept nanis succes and come up with excuses as if he only got to Ro8 because of luck, which is not true. And yes, every match you play in Code S is difficult, it's Code S ffs. Regardless of who you play, regardless of what MU, even if it's your best MU, it is hard. And like you said, if you only get to play your two best MU's (like naniwa has) you've obviously had some luck, but it's not like the matches your going to play are easy, the other players are also great players, that is why i think saying his succes is based on luck is stupid. I also think it's stupid to compare Naniwa and Stephano. The thing that thrives naniwa is to be the best, or at least do very well and win something huge and to achieve that, he practices alot. Stephano is (although im sure he likes playing Sc2) in it for the money, and i think that their goals really reflects in their succes. Although Stephano has won way more money, Naniwa is the one in Code S, he has won MLG, he's been in the finals once. Stephano is just a dude that is really, really, really good att Sc2, without dedicating very much to it. I'm sure if he did put as much time and energy in Sc2 as Naniwa did, he'd me at least as succesfull as naniwa. | ||
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iGn1t3
Hong Kong73 Posts
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
On April 28 2012 02:28 iGn1t3 wrote: Stephano is a medical student as well? Go go Stephano~ u can do both, with fun and success!!!~ He is not yet as far as I know. He took another year of pure progaming. | ||
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MenithZ
France21 Posts
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
gsl is the 100 x tougher than any foreign tournament as monster has said. naniwa has proven himself by advancing in it. yeah you might get lucky in what opponents you draw, but everyone in code S is a top level competitor. | ||
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neozxa
Indonesia545 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/gomcam/67443 MC talks about Naniwa, Idra and Stephano. The Stephano talk is about 6 minutes in. MC says Stephano, DRG and Nestea are the 3 best Zergs. | ||
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WeaponX.7
Canada52 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On April 26 2012 08:15 Azarkon wrote: I don't believe that the companies behind KESPA built Starcraft 2 into what it is today. They did nothing to promote the international scene, which is what SC 2 is, and because of their fight with Blizzard, they ended up doing nothing to promote SC 2 in Korea. I'm pretty sure he was talking about Starcraft in general man, and your totaly out of line. The ratings were doing just fine mind you and there are more sponorships to gain by airing SC2 for them hence they want to bring it in. Channels change direction all the time. That is the case with MBC. | ||
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QXC_Fanboy
United States35 Posts
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lolspoon
450 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On April 28 2012 23:18 tdt wrote: Why does GSL take like 2 months when other can do tounaments in 3 days? Sucks GSL takes so long or I belive many more foriegners would be in there and Stephanp would have been there long ago. Better GSL is better and more important than all those other lesser tournaments. They also understand that a good tournament is about letting players prepare for their games not make them play 25 standard ladder style games in a row. There's a very good reason to 80% of the best games in Sc2 history were played in either the GSL or TSL and that's because players get a chance to prepare build and strategies so we see new and interesting stuff. Tournaments like Dreamhack, IPL and MLG might have great drama but the games are usually of much lower quality than we see in GSL and you will never see something like a Leenock vs Jjakji level series at an weekend lan. | ||
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