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EvoStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
United States24 Posts
April 25 2012 22:31 GMT
#221
Hell yeah! One of my favorite Zerg foreigners going to do extremely well in Code S. I just know it
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 25 2012 22:34 GMT
#222
On April 26 2012 07:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Once GSL stops the seeds bullshit, they'll become more respected as a league.

MBC and OGN never did that shit, nor did they try so hard to please people. Just make the hardest motherfucking league on the planet and everybody will love you.

I like seeing Naniwa, and next season Stephano too, but deep inside, I don't respect Gom too much...

I guess GOM found out that viewers pay the bills better than respect.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 22:39:00
April 25 2012 22:35 GMT
#223
Out of curiosity, what kind of finish does Stephano need in order for people to admit he belongs in Code S? Ignore the fact he's being seeded in, or what your thoughts on people receiving Code S seeds in general are, because it's really not relevant at all to the question.
ProBot
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada170 Posts
April 25 2012 22:36 GMT
#224
K for those idiots who say he doesn't face GSL competition or that he'ld get wrecked by good korean players ... I may be mistaken but Stephano was ranked 6th on the korean GM server either last season or the season before ... soo yeah?
ki11z0ne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States427 Posts
April 25 2012 22:37 GMT
#225
On April 26 2012 03:01 SomeONEx wrote:
unexpected, but great!


idk this might of been why he is not going back to his studies or what ever he said he was doing befor sc2, but then again he prob allready made up his mind a long time ago
SC > halo
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 22:40:39
April 25 2012 22:39 GMT
#226
On April 26 2012 07:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Once GSL stops the seeds bullshit, they'll become more respected as a league.

MBC and OGN never did that shit, nor did they try so hard to please people. Just make the hardest motherfucking league on the planet and everybody will love you.

I like seeing Naniwa, and next season Stephano too, but deep inside, I don't respect Gom too much...


They were loved by everybody - to the effect that competitive BW died completely outside of Korea within a few years of the game's release.

OSL - is switching to SC 2 because they see where the wind is blowing.

MSL - failed out of eSports and became a Kpop channel.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
April 25 2012 22:39 GMT
#227
On April 26 2012 07:35 templar rage wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of finish does Stephano need in order for people to admit he belongs in Code S? Ignore the fact he's being seeded in, or what your thoughts on people receiving Code S seeds in general are, because it's really not relevant at all to the question.


In Order to prove you belongin Code S you need to stay in Code S
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
CrugerDK
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark323 Posts
April 25 2012 22:48 GMT
#228
On April 26 2012 07:39 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:35 templar rage wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of finish does Stephano need in order for people to admit he belongs in Code S? Ignore the fact he's being seeded in, or what your thoughts on people receiving Code S seeds in general are, because it's really not relevant at all to the question.


In Order to prove you belongin Code S you need to stay in Code S


thats pretty bullshit considering only 8 out of 32 players stay in code S...

think about it, 8 players out of the 32 in code S, go out without winning a single series. but that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't belong there.
damod
Profile Joined March 2011
1106 Posts
April 25 2012 22:49 GMT
#229
On April 26 2012 07:39 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:35 templar rage wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of finish does Stephano need in order for people to admit he belongs in Code S? Ignore the fact he's being seeded in, or what your thoughts on people receiving Code S seeds in general are, because it's really not relevant at all to the question.


In Order to prove you belongin Code S you need to stay in Code S

Or play through Code A in order to reach Code S ;P
EGHuK | EGJaeDong | EGMachine | EGiNcontroL | EGDemusliM | EGStephano <3
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 25 2012 22:49 GMT
#230
On April 26 2012 07:35 templar rage wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of finish does Stephano need in order for people to admit he belongs in Code S? Ignore the fact he's being seeded in, or what your thoughts on people receiving Code S seeds in general are, because it's really not relevant at all to the question.


I think maintaining your seed over several seasons (like DRG and MMA did).

There's a hell of a lot of Code A players who could make the Code S round of 8 with a seed and a good draw.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 25 2012 22:51 GMT
#231
On April 26 2012 07:39 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Once GSL stops the seeds bullshit, they'll become more respected as a league.

MBC and OGN never did that shit, nor did they try so hard to please people. Just make the hardest motherfucking league on the planet and everybody will love you.

I like seeing Naniwa, and next season Stephano too, but deep inside, I don't respect Gom too much...


They were loved by everybody - to the effect that competitive BW died completely outside of Korea within a few years of the game's release.

OSL - is switching to SC 2 because they see where the wind is blowing.

MSL - failed out of eSports and became a Kpop channel.


There's no way OGN are to blame for that, they're the reason there's any scene anywhere.
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
April 25 2012 22:57 GMT
#232
On April 26 2012 07:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:35 templar rage wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of finish does Stephano need in order for people to admit he belongs in Code S? Ignore the fact he's being seeded in, or what your thoughts on people receiving Code S seeds in general are, because it's really not relevant at all to the question.


I think maintaining your seed over several seasons (like DRG and MMA did).

There's a hell of a lot of Code A players who could make the Code S round of 8 with a seed and a good draw.


I guess I'll rephrase because I tend to agree with this answer, but it's not really what I'm looking for.

How high does Stephano need to finish where you would say "OK, that's a decent result."? I guess I'm asking what people's expectations are for him, and what he needs to do in order for you to say he met them. Because I feel like a lot of people's expectations are way too high, but I'm not sure if that's true at all.
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
April 25 2012 22:57 GMT
#233
On April 26 2012 07:51 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:39 Azarkon wrote:
On April 26 2012 07:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Once GSL stops the seeds bullshit, they'll become more respected as a league.

MBC and OGN never did that shit, nor did they try so hard to please people. Just make the hardest motherfucking league on the planet and everybody will love you.

I like seeing Naniwa, and next season Stephano too, but deep inside, I don't respect Gom too much...


They were loved by everybody - to the effect that competitive BW died completely outside of Korea within a few years of the game's release.

OSL - is switching to SC 2 because they see where the wind is blowing.

MSL - failed out of eSports and became a Kpop channel.


There's no way OGN are to blame for that, they're the reason there's any scene anywhere.


I agree with this guy, it's not OGN's fault, or even MBC's. Honestly it's probably sAviOr and his "crew" that fucked it all up.
Pink Floyd's music is like a beautiful girl walking down the street who won't talk to you.
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
April 25 2012 22:57 GMT
#234
Now lets see if Stephano can play as well as he does in foreign tournaments!
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
April 25 2012 22:59 GMT
#235
On April 26 2012 07:36 ProBot wrote:
K for those idiots who say he doesn't face GSL competition or that he'ld get wrecked by good korean players ... I may be mistaken but Stephano was ranked 6th on the korean GM server either last season or the season before ... soo yeah?



before you call anybody else an idiot, taking ladder results to say he deserves a code S seed is retarded.

ladder is just practice, most korean pros don't take ladder super seroius.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 25 2012 23:00 GMT
#236
On April 26 2012 07:48 CrugerDK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:39 Tantaburs wrote:
On April 26 2012 07:35 templar rage wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of finish does Stephano need in order for people to admit he belongs in Code S? Ignore the fact he's being seeded in, or what your thoughts on people receiving Code S seeds in general are, because it's really not relevant at all to the question.


In Order to prove you belongin Code S you need to stay in Code S


thats pretty bullshit considering only 8 out of 32 players stay in code S...

think about it, 8 players out of the 32 in code S, go out without winning a single series. but that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't belong there.

Well it depends how you count
If you get knocked out before ro8 and get back in code S the same season does that count as "staying in code S"?
Jagriff
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 23:03:23
April 25 2012 23:01 GMT
#237
I don't understand how people can say that Stephano DESERVES to be in Code S. I hate that word. He only deserves to get what he has earned, and while he has performed well in other tournaments, you cannot say that such performances should earn him a spot in an unrelated tournament.

I'm not knocking GSL's attempt to acquire a larger fan base. There's nothing wrong with that. But saying that he deserves the spot is not something that I will get behind. I would prefer no Affirmative Action for foreigners, but to each his own. I wish the best of luck to his future in GSL if he does indeed decide to compete.

On April 26 2012 07:48 CrugerDK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:39 Tantaburs wrote:
On April 26 2012 07:35 templar rage wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of finish does Stephano need in order for people to admit he belongs in Code S? Ignore the fact he's being seeded in, or what your thoughts on people receiving Code S seeds in general are, because it's really not relevant at all to the question.


In Order to prove you belongin Code S you need to stay in Code S


thats pretty bullshit considering only 8 out of 32 players stay in code S...

think about it, 8 players out of the 32 in code S, go out without winning a single series. but that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't belong there.


Yes, but how many of those players actually qualified for Code S and weren't given a free pass? Since Stephano didn't have to go through the old-fashion method of getting into Code S, he will need to perform well to show that he belongs.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 23:02:52
April 25 2012 23:02 GMT
#238
On April 26 2012 07:39 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Once GSL stops the seeds bullshit, they'll become more respected as a league.

MBC and OGN never did that shit, nor did they try so hard to please people. Just make the hardest motherfucking league on the planet and everybody will love you.

I like seeing Naniwa, and next season Stephano too, but deep inside, I don't respect Gom too much...


They were loved by everybody - to the effect that competitive BW died completely outside of Korea within a few years of the game's release.

OSL - is switching to SC 2 because they see where the wind is blowing.

MSL - failed out of eSports and became a Kpop channel.



You have no idea what you're talking about. OGN and MBC are/were still well ahead of GOM in terms of viewer numbers. They stopped because no company will sponser a tournament after Savior/Blizzard-Kespa legal battles.
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coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 23:04:41
April 25 2012 23:03 GMT
#239
I think it's worth being a little conservative on the enthusiasm for Stephano. GSL is a very different beast from foreign tournaments since it encourages preparation for specific opponents rather than the endurance and ad hoc decision-making that you need to win against many opponents over a weekend.

Naniwa had to lose a lot of games and train hardcore with ST before he got his legs under him, and the other Code S seeds have a very poor record of showing they "deserved" it.

It might similarly take Stephano several tries before he figures out how to show his skill in GSL. I think everyone, including Koreans, hopes he does well, but I'm not too optimistic. I certainly think it's overblown to say he'll just win the championship on his first try. It'd be a fairly pleasant surprise if he makes it to group selection IMO.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
April 25 2012 23:03 GMT
#240
On April 26 2012 07:57 templar rage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 26 2012 07:35 templar rage wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of finish does Stephano need in order for people to admit he belongs in Code S? Ignore the fact he's being seeded in, or what your thoughts on people receiving Code S seeds in general are, because it's really not relevant at all to the question.


I think maintaining your seed over several seasons (like DRG and MMA did).

There's a hell of a lot of Code A players who could make the Code S round of 8 with a seed and a good draw.


I guess I'll rephrase because I tend to agree with this answer, but it's not really what I'm looking for.

How high does Stephano need to finish where you would say "OK, that's a decent result."? I guess I'm asking what people's expectations are for him, and what he needs to do in order for you to say he met them. Because I feel like a lot of people's expectations are way too high, but I'm not sure if that's true at all.

You didn't ask me but personally I'm happy just as long he looks competitive and give us some good games. You don't want an invite to look completely outmatched. As long as that happen it has serverd its purpose.
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