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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
April 25 2012 21:43 GMT
#181
i dislike seeds =[
But grats to him nonetheless
Long live the Boss Toss!
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 21:46:38
April 25 2012 21:45 GMT
#182
On April 26 2012 06:43 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:39 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:36 figq wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:27 BrauL wrote:
Wonder who the other seed will be given to
could it be... t-t-t-t-thorzain !
sounds too good to be true, but it seems all other top-finishers in premier international events lately have Code S already


Thorzain is definitely not ready for Code S. It would be another Sen/Idra performance.
Probably so, but there's just no better option that I can find among the top finishers in premier international events. Which is the criterion for Code S invitation. The others are already Code S, except for Puma, but he got runner-up in IEM not champ.


There will be another MLG Spring Arena, Iron Squid and the Red Bull Tournament before then so plenty of time for a better candidate to appear (or for Thorzain to prove himself more deserving). I really don't think the player pool Thorzain beat at Dreamhack is close to deserving a Code S seed.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 21:51:43
April 25 2012 21:49 GMT
#183
On April 26 2012 06:45 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:43 figq wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:39 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:36 figq wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:27 BrauL wrote:
Wonder who the other seed will be given to
could it be... t-t-t-t-thorzain !
sounds too good to be true, but it seems all other top-finishers in premier international events lately have Code S already


Thorzain is definitely not ready for Code S. It would be another Sen/Idra performance.
Probably so, but there's just no better option that I can find among the top finishers in premier international events. Which is the criterion for Code S invitation. The others are already Code S, except for Puma, but he got runner-up in IEM not champ.


There will be another MLG Spring Arena, Iron Squid and the Red Bull Tournament before then so plenty of time for a better candidate to appear (or for Thorzain to prove himself more deserving). I really don't think the player pool Thorzain beat at Dreamhack is close to deserving a Code S seed.
I just assumed they are sending the Code S invitations right now, because they asked Stephano already. Generally they have to invite people ahead of time, not sure how much ahead of time though. On the other hand, Stephano could be an exception to be invited earlier, because of his special circumstances.

Currently, there doesn't seem to be a better second candidate than Thorzain, even with weak DH pool, as you say.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
April 25 2012 21:50 GMT
#184
Congrats to Stephano, it'll be interesting to see how he does! I know he says he's not particularly confident against the top Korean pros, but I think he has the ability to do very well.
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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
April 25 2012 21:51 GMT
#185
On April 26 2012 06:36 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:27 BrauL wrote:
Wonder who the other seed will be given to
could it be... t-t-t-t-thorzain !
sounds too good to be true, but it seems all other top-finishers in premier international events lately have Code S already

GSL is in a weird situation again, their is no clear choice in foreigners or even among Koreans. I mean, last season they had Naniwa/Polt and Puma was a good contender. But his latest performances make him less legit now.


Personnally i fear for Stephano, he is the antithesis of the good GSL format player (unlike Thorzain or Genius).
He improvises a lot and doesn't study other players or even his own losses.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4527 Posts
April 25 2012 21:54 GMT
#186
On April 26 2012 06:39 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:36 figq wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:27 BrauL wrote:
Wonder who the other seed will be given to
could it be... t-t-t-t-thorzain !
sounds too good to be true, but it seems all other top-finishers in premier international events lately have Code S already


Thorzain is definitely not ready for Code S. It would be another Sen/Idra performance.

Didn't we say this about NaNi?
hi. big fan.
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
April 25 2012 21:54 GMT
#187
More code S seeds?.........sigh
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
April 25 2012 21:56 GMT
#188
GOGO Stephano! ACCEPT! :D
NaNiwa | Innovation | Flash | DeMuslim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
IskarSC
Profile Joined April 2012
Bulgaria2 Posts
April 25 2012 21:57 GMT
#189
Stephano isn't my favorite player, but he really deserves this spot due to his performance in recent months. I look forward to seeing him in the GSL next season though.
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
April 25 2012 21:58 GMT
#190
On April 26 2012 06:51 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:36 figq wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:27 BrauL wrote:
Wonder who the other seed will be given to
could it be... t-t-t-t-thorzain !
sounds too good to be true, but it seems all other top-finishers in premier international events lately have Code S already

GSL is in a weird situation again, their is no clear choice in foreigners or even among Koreans. I mean, last season they had Naniwa/Polt and Puma was a good contender. But his latest performances make him less legit now.


Personnally i fear for Stephano, he is the antithesis of the good GSL format player (unlike Thorzain or Genius).
He improvises a lot and doesn't study other players or even his own losses.


I don't know what were you trying to say but, if i got it right, neither Polt nor Puma are foreigners
As for Stephano, well, I don't see why he wouldn't have a good (or great) performance in GSL.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 25 2012 22:01 GMT
#191
I'm really really curious to see how well he can do. I feel like there is so much over and under hype that it is hard to gauge just how well he would do. Plus, there really needs to be more zerg in code S, feels kinda stagnant x.x
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 25 2012 22:01 GMT
#192
On April 26 2012 06:58 HomeWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:51 Diavlo wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:36 figq wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:27 BrauL wrote:
Wonder who the other seed will be given to
could it be... t-t-t-t-thorzain !
sounds too good to be true, but it seems all other top-finishers in premier international events lately have Code S already

GSL is in a weird situation again, their is no clear choice in foreigners or even among Koreans. I mean, last season they had Naniwa/Polt and Puma was a good contender. But his latest performances make him less legit now.


Personnally i fear for Stephano, he is the antithesis of the good GSL format player (unlike Thorzain or Genius).
He improvises a lot and doesn't study other players or even his own losses.


I don't know what were you trying to say but, if i got it right, neither Polt nor Puma are foreigners
As for Stephano, well, I don't see why he wouldn't have a good (or great) performance in GSL.
They don't only invite foreigners, just top finishers in premier international events. For the current season they invited Naniwa and Polt (who is not a foreigner).
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 22:06:09
April 25 2012 22:02 GMT
#193
On April 26 2012 06:54 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:39 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:36 figq wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:27 BrauL wrote:
Wonder who the other seed will be given to
could it be... t-t-t-t-thorzain !
sounds too good to be true, but it seems all other top-finishers in premier international events lately have Code S already


Thorzain is definitely not ready for Code S. It would be another Sen/Idra performance.

Didn't we say this about NaNi?


Naniwa had been posting good results at multiple MLG's before Code S despite his awful Code A showings.

Thorzain hadn't done anything significant on LAN for a long time before this Dreamhack and even then the only game you wouldn't expect Thorzain to win was vs Polt.

Naniwa is overall quite a lot better than Thorzain is right now. I feel like Naniwa had a very fortunate bracket as well which Thorzain won't neccessarily have.

If Thorzain gets paired up against JYP, Zenio, Oz and Gumiho (on one of his bad TvT days) he could probably make Round of 8, but he could just as easily meet Parting, DRG, Ryung and Mvp.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 22:04:06
April 25 2012 22:02 GMT
#194
On April 26 2012 06:58 HomeWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:51 Diavlo wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:36 figq wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:27 BrauL wrote:
Wonder who the other seed will be given to
could it be... t-t-t-t-thorzain !
sounds too good to be true, but it seems all other top-finishers in premier international events lately have Code S already

GSL is in a weird situation again, their is no clear choice in foreigners or even among Koreans. I mean, last season they had Naniwa/Polt and Puma was a good contender. But his latest performances make him less legit now.


Personnally i fear for Stephano, he is the antithesis of the good GSL format player (unlike Thorzain or Genius).
He improvises a lot and doesn't study other players or even his own losses.


I don't know what were you trying to say but, if i got it right, neither Polt nor Puma are foreigners
As for Stephano, well, I don't see why he wouldn't have a good (or great) performance in GSL.


I mean that last season, GSL had an already limited number of players they could invite.
They had Naniwa. And among Koreans, they had Polt or Puma.
But now they don't have any legitimate player (except Stephano) since Puma hasn't performed well in the last two tournaments he entered.

"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
pwnagraphy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States24 Posts
April 25 2012 22:04 GMT
#195
one 2012 code S GSL CHAMPION, coming right up
"They say evil prevails when good men fail to act, what it should say is evil prevails
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
April 25 2012 22:05 GMT
#196
GOMTV even stated in the past after stephano left korea that they'd have a spot for him in Code S if he wanted to ever go back to korea and compete in GSL. Only problem I think Stephano will have is that GSL is alot different that going to foreign tournaments (as lots of people have brought up before) and that 12 minute roach timing will probably not work against any Code S players as they've already figured it out. And Stephano has said in interviews that he doesnt like watching replays at all. If you don't study any replays of who your playing in GSL and come up with a strategy to combat what that opponent can do then your not going to make it far. As we know koreans study replays and have very strict playing schedule when it comes to GSL. Every build Stephano has ever done on his successful road in SC2 foreign tournaments will be ripped apart by the teams and players and they'll bash their head against each strat and find the exploitable holes in them. With how Stephano plays with not much variation his how he plays GSL will be a real test to see if he changes his work ethic towards SC2 and starts looking at replays and coming up with some different styles of play.

Not knowledgable on BW so excuse the lack of names
But I remember Artosis bringing this up on STOG or something and he said that this completely unknown guy took out one of the best BW players ever in a teamleague match. And this unknown pretty much studied and played against this Pro's style for months before the game and managed to figure out a BO and timing to exploit against this Pro. And when they had their game the Pro ended up losing pretty badly because of this exploited timing because he played the standard builds.

Samething might happen to Stephano if he doesnt come up with some weird timing or something completely new that no one has seen from him or the other Code S players might just rip him apart.

Not saying I'm a Stephano hater or don't want him to win. It just looks like as of now that he'll have to change how he does things and prepares when he gets to Korea or things wont go so well for him because of how everyone else in Code S prepares themselves for who they face in GSL.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
April 25 2012 22:06 GMT
#197
Stephano's reactive style is a double edged sword really. It also means it's quite impossible to prepare for him unless you know how he reacts to certain tells and feed him false intel.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
April 25 2012 22:07 GMT
#198
Anyone who was at the MKP vs Stephano matches on IPL4 knows why Stephano got the invite.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
April 25 2012 22:07 GMT
#199
The plain ignorance that shows in this forum is just astounding... If Stephano doesn't deserve it, then please, let me know who has the best spot for this. To say that Stephano isn't code A or even code S material is just denying the fact that he could take at least a bo3 to anyone, much like any code A/B koreans.

Except we're talking about a fucking foreigner...

I don't like stephano, nor hate him, but not acknowledging his strength is just plain dumb. Did you really think he didn't deserve it just because he *doesn't* have the level or isn't that deep inside of you, you want him lose in a very shameless fashion ? I despise Stephano's fans to some extent, but i don't care. I just want to see how well he'll performs in GSL. Take it or leave it.

For Chris sake...
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
April 25 2012 22:10 GMT
#200
If he goes to Korea right before the tournament starts, I doubt he will have enough time to practice a little but before his group. I hope his natural talent will be enough to make it out.

Exciting stuff.
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