EPTStephano invited to Code S - Page 8
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nihlon
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On April 26 2012 05:41 Galetmonster wrote: Because everyone including players think that its stupid and unfair to get seeded right into code s, a shame really. Not everyone, and it's a bit weird to think they have stopped when you have clear evidence of the contrary in front of your eyes. | ||
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mememolly
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Frostlone
Australia75 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On April 26 2012 03:51 0neder wrote: He better go or he's yella! I hope he does. He's the only foreigner that I could fathom taking a GSL. Naniwa, almost...but not quite. Stephano has yet to prove anything in the gsl. He's been beaten by top code s koreans before and that's all he's going to be facing in the gsl is top code s level koreans. I hate hype like this when his chances of getting through 30 other code s koreans+naniwa to win the gsl is almost none. It all depends on who he faces if he can adapt to what it's like in korea and to how different the gsl is to other tournaments where you know who your going to being playing ahead of time, if he does his research on his opponents it still will be very tough if he doesn't do any research on his opponents he will get crushed because you need to prepare builds for certain opponents. However we'll see how he can do when the time comes. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On April 26 2012 05:41 nihlon wrote: We might see both happen... simultaneously. ^^ Alrgiht, just very hypothetically, let's allow ourselves to dream big - alright, ready? - alright, imagine a GSL Grandfinal, on the big stadium in Seoul... Naniwa vs Stephano. I have a feeling this will end like the Naniwa vs Stephano showmatch. I'll believe it when I see it. (wouldn't feel right, right? yeah, i know) | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On April 26 2012 05:41 Galetmonster wrote: Because everyone including players think that its stupid and unfair to get seeded right into code s, a shame really. The amount of activity in the LR thread when Naniwa played his games seems to indicate the opposite. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize GOM are doing this because of increased interest when a foreigner play, like it or not. If everyone was against it GOM wouldn't do it. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On April 26 2012 05:17 l3AK3D wrote: He won't do well at all. He should stick to the foreign tourneys. Much like Naniwa (or even most Koreans), he'll do well if he gets a good draw but could easilly end up in Code B if he meets the wrong players. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3703 Posts
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
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FuRRyChoBo
United States218 Posts
On April 26 2012 05:47 NovemberstOrm wrote: Stephano has yet to prove anything in the gsl. He's been beaten by top code s koreans before and that's all he's going to be facing in the gsl is top code s level koreans. I hate hype like this when his chances of getting through 30 other code s koreans+naniwa to win the gsl is almost none. It all depends on who he faces if he can adapt to what it's like in korea and to how different the gsl is to other tournaments where you know who your going to being playing ahead of time, if he does his research on his opponents it still will be very tough if he doesn't do any research on his opponents he will get crushed because you need to prepare builds for certain opponents. However we'll see how he can do when the time comes. This. | ||
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spatz
Germany153 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
Here is too hoping that stephano replicates naniwa's success | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
then we hav the best foreign from every race | ||
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Heouf
Netherlands787 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 26 2012 05:36 Talin wrote: It doesn't matter. OGN's ratings would still be better with Bisu being constantly involved in everything than without him, so they're not getting away with anything (quite the opposite). If they wanted to, they could have invented some sort of a direct-qualifier wildcard or have fans vote a player in or come up with some other fancy PR scheme to justify it like "giving the fans what they want". GSL isn't really global or international and it's never been that. Just looking at the format it's clearly not structured to be that. There is no legitimate qualifier tournament for foreigners (other than taking part in the actual qualifiers in Korea), there's no GSL EU or GSL NA, there's no fixed rules that apply to international players. They can call it whatever they like, but it's a Korean league based around Korean competitive scene. If I remember correctly they even said at some point that Code S seeds are "sponsor invites" for popular players - so they ended up inviting Sen. Inviting Bisu to every OSL helps with viewer ratings from Bisu's fans, but it causes backlashes from other players' fans, who then demand the same favoritism for their own players. This creates a situation that OGN stands to lose from, because seeding every favorite player into the OSL makes the league stale and stagnant. Bringing foreigner players who are doing well in international tournaments to the GSL avoids this problem, because it is understood that they're only going to bring in a few foreigner players for the purpose of making the tournament international. Moreover, it doesn't make the league stale and stagnant because they bring in players they see doing well in other tournaments - not players that are fan favorites. GOM is responding to the desires of their community, which wants to see foreigners in the GSL, and were KESPA in the same position, I think they're going to do the same. Interviews with KESPA coaches have them saying that they felt their greatest regret in BW was the failure to involve the foreigner community until it was too late. Yet, to do so, league organizers have to give incentives, because very few foreigners are going to go live in a foreign country for months to get a shot at entering a league when there's MLG, IPL, NASL, etc. going on every month. The best solution, IMO, is to ditch the league format of Starcraft tournaments altogether, and to run weekend tournaments with paid flight, lodging, etc. | ||
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Gackt_
335 Posts
On April 26 2012 05:42 ThePlayer33 wrote: thorzain maybe should get one. dont think stephano deserves one at all. then again no one deserves a code s spot ever. This post was just wierd and so wrong for so many reasons. except the last part that, i dont think they should hand out seeds either. | ||
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:07 TBone- wrote: Oh Stephano is definitely deserving of a seed. It just enhances the story if someone works there way up instead of just taking a short cut. It would just mean so much more if he won code s by going through the traditional path. Except you're completely ignoring the fact that he DOESN'T live in Korea, the rest of them do. They can partake in the Code A qualis at basically no cost to them, whereas Stephano would either need to stay in Korea (which is a hindrance to him) or fly to Korea just to try to qualify for a league that pays out basically nothing. It's just not feasible to have foreigners qualify via the Code A qualifiers. MAYBE if they held online qualifiers, but that would still have a ton of lag issues that would make the results pretty irrelevant. Yes, it'd be nice if he could realistically work his way up, but it's just not going to happen. Flying from Korea to a bunch of Euro and American LANs is just more hassle than it's worth for a shot at Code A. | ||
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DYEAlabaster
Canada1009 Posts
Still, good to see him finally accept | ||
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