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Stephano extends his break !
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HyunA
Romania362 Posts
This is big news, guys ! | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Best of luck Stephano. Should just about be in time for the next Code S season  | ||
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dragonborn
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i just want to watch Stephano in GSL. | ||
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djfoxmccloud
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Ettick
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JyB
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Mrvoodoochild1
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Jtom
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KadaverBB
Germany25658 Posts
 I really really enjoy his play | ||
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
Been praying for that so long. Thank you so much, Stephano. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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shawty
United Kingdom294 Posts
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biamila
Canada335 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
good luck to him, hopefully if he actually starts turning up to his matches again soon we can enjoy his extended career. | ||
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samw
England443 Posts
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IMNasty
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Amokoma
Denmark122 Posts
bonjwa | ||
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advokat
Serbia21 Posts
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
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0kz
Italy1118 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:56 Amokoma wrote: Holy crap! This is huge! Foreigner + Show Spoiler + bonjwa yes this is huge but the answer to your spoiler is NO, stop using that word, -_- | ||
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iglocska
Norway589 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Phemtos
Canada163 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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m0ck
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djfoxmccloud
France185 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:00 SupLilSon wrote: The REAL foreigner hope. Who is NaNiwa again? Isn't he a pro at monobattle ? whith probes ? lol j/k | ||
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HyunA
Romania362 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:00 Phemtos wrote: llyes "bonjwa" Satouri is about to fuck some shit up in the next GSL. Haha ! I really hope so man. | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:54 1Eris1 wrote: Well if ''something'' is taking another year into starcraft and going to korea then yes? Theres a fanclub for this. Seriously, why do I have to see a new thread in sc2 general every time stephano does something? | ||
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DisOriental
Canada89 Posts
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
If his prime goal is to just maximize $$$(which seems to be the case), then to be honest it's not necessarily even worthwhile to do GSL stuff. There's so much risk, so much travel expenditure costs, costs of living, assimilating with the culture(which Stephano's character...he doesn't care...so could be argued that it's a non-factor). I can see him targeting MLG, IPL, and those types of tourneys that are realistic money makers for him. GSL...not so much unless many things are taken care of for him, and not at his cost. | ||
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Elite__
Canada976 Posts
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Morale
Sweden1010 Posts
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Rodiel3
France1158 Posts
live the dream ! | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Sea_aeS
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
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Pipeline
Sweden1673 Posts
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
He'd be pretty stupid not to, given how he has played lately. | ||
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
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Iyerbeth
England2410 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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[AthruN]
Australia25 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
Great news. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:54 1Eris1 wrote: Theres a fanclub for this. Seriously, why do I have to see a new thread in sc2 general every time stephano does something? The fact that he's taking another gaming year is pretty big news. Worth of a thread here. | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:03 D_K_night wrote: well it all comes down to what the objectives of Stephano really are. If his prime goal is to just maximize $$$(which seems to be the case), then to be honest it's not necessarily even worthwhile to do GSL stuff. There's so much risk, so much travel expenditure costs, costs of living, assimilating with the culture(which Stephano's character...he doesn't care...so could be argued that it's a non-factor). I can see him targeting MLG, IPL, and those types of tourneys that are realistic money makers for him. GSL...not so much unless many things are taken care of for him, and not at his cost. I really think it's more then the money for Stephano right now. He won a lot of money already and he will win more in more big tournaments. He had that attitude of playing only for the money for a long time. But recently (in the past 2 months) he started to care more about his fans and also about all the SC2 community (showing in some of his posts regarding his fans, also his reactions in interviews for example concerning the USA USA USA joke). I think for Stephano SC2 is already more then money-making and it maybe become a real passion for him in the future. Edit: at least I hope so... | ||
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
Hope he plays in Code S, that way we'll have the 2 best foreigners in Code S for next season, will be epic! | ||
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scarrow
United Kingdom30 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:09 Whitewing wrote: USA USA USA! Great news. Ha ha ha! You are so fucking funny and original. Please continue! | ||
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Kreb
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:07 Serinox wrote: We'll see how he does. I'm not yet convinced that he will take the Code S championship ezpz, as some guys are already hyping that up. Wait and see I guess. No one is saying he will easily win code S. First he needs a code S seed and I really hope he gets it | ||
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zanga
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
STEPHANO FIGHTING (i suspected he would delay it since he's doing so well, and that he simply didn't want to mention the possibility of extending it cus if he decided not to, it would let down fans' hope) | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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Hren
Slovenia86 Posts
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HotShizz
France710 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:12 AgentChaos wrote: hope he stick with sc2 and quit study When he finishes with SC2 he's going to medical school. He's not going to quit that for SC2. He probably managed to get them to defer his acceptance a year so he can play more SC2 before becoming a doctor. | ||
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Pocky52
United States463 Posts
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v3chr0
United States856 Posts
Stephano 4tw | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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djfoxmccloud
France185 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:13 Zzoram wrote: When he finishes with SC2 he's going to medical school. He's not going to quit that for SC2. He probably managed to get them to defer his acceptance a year so he can play more SC2 before becoming a doctor. For the first year, there is no selection. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:56 Amokoma wrote: Holy crap! This is huge! Foreigner + Show Spoiler + bonjwa I think so, its either him or Naniwa. :D | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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VPCursed
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:15 Mementoss wrote: This is some of the best news for SC2 foreign scene since Jinros back to back Ro4 But Nani's Ro8 with the new format isn't? Or any number of other foreign performances in tourneys stacked with Koreans? ^^ | ||
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Schmoooopy
United States448 Posts
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:11 DaCruise wrote: No one is saying he will easily win code S. First he needs a code S seed and I really hope he gets it These claims were there in the past and I'm sure they will come up again. | ||
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Ender985
Spain910 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
Can't wait to see how he continues to improve! | ||
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CPTBadAss
United States594 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:54 1Eris1 wrote: Theres a fanclub for this. Seriously, why do I have to see a new thread in sc2 general every time stephano does something? First page. Congratulations. But your performance is lackluster and doesn't express enough rage. Remaining challengers to the downer award for being a huge downer : Hall0wed and DarkPlasmaBall. Stay tuned for more pointless criticism ! User was warned for this post | ||
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Ventor
United States336 Posts
You people throwing that word around make me sick. You're parasites to the community and for what sc represents. User was warned for this post | ||
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:15 djfoxmccloud wrote: For the first year, there is no selection. I don't know what this means. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:21 Ventor wrote: You people throwing that word around make me sick. You're parasites to the community and for what sc represents. "Naniwa" or "Bonjwa"? | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
Apologize for playing that word! | ||
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Maybe I haven't been on TL long enough, but I'm not following lol | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
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Harbinger631
United States376 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
Pretty cool news, hopefully we see him at the GSL in the future | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
Definitely don't want him to stop while he's playing so damn good. | ||
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mememolly
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Let's all hope he doesn't break both his wrists in tomorrows ski-ing! ;+D | ||
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MrMatt
Canada225 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
YES YES This guy is in the next GSL code S, of this I have no doubt. That seed is his, and GOM knows it | ||
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Lasbike
France2888 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:54 1Eris1 wrote: Theres a fanclub for this. Seriously, why do I have to see a new thread in sc2 general every time stephano does something? Sooo...NightEnd going to Korea, Lyn leaving Pandarea or the GM Protoss YaTa releasing a replay pack, it's all more important than (one of) the best foreigner continuing his SC2 career for another whole year ? Anyway, this is great news. I hope he'll do well in Korea..Cause if I remember correctly, he didn't really enjoy his last trip there (But it was more because of the lifestyle than SC2). | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:21 Otolia wrote: First page. Congratulations. But your performance is lackluster and doesn't express enough rage. Remaining challengers to the downer award for being a huge downer : Hall0wed and DarkPlasmaBall. Stay tuned for more pointless criticism ! Don't see why it has to be for Stephano only though. No one else makes threads like this, unless it's a team announcement or something like that. This is exactly what fan clubs are for; shit this OP has two sentences and is just full of "Yay!" posts, why is that even thread worthy? Also, seriously, stop with this bonjwa crap. Some people have no respect whatsoever. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:26 Zealously wrote: Maybe I haven't been on TL long enough, but I'm not following lol Idra once said "Apologize for playing that race!" in a game, he's just joking with you. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:11 scarrow wrote: Ha ha ha! You are so fucking funny and original. Please continue! Haha! Great post! You really brought something to the table that wasn't malicious or spiteful! Way to be a great guy! | ||
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
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-TesteR-
Canada1165 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:17 Zealously wrote: But Nani's Ro8 with the new format isn't? Or any number of other foreign performances in tourneys stacked with Koreans? ^^ He means this is some of the best news for stephano fans since he hasn't done anything recently, don't know why he added in the random Jinro RO4 fact :D | ||
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ShakkaFL
Norway647 Posts
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:21 Ventor wrote: You people throwing that word around make me sick. You're parasites to the community and for what sc represents. not sure i follow why you're so offended. it's a korean word, not an american one...why would it affect you? it's like tossing the word "expert", "elite" and other variations of those words to describe superstar athletes or otherwise people with almost superhuman levels of skill that are not reachable by ordinary means. ppl will use that word...if it was once a sacred word...it is not...anymore.... | ||
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Gatored
United States679 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:33 1Eris1 wrote: Don't see why it has to be for Stephano only though. No one else makes threads like this, unless it's a team announcement or something like that. This is exactly what fan clubs are for; shit this OP has two sentences and is just full of "Yay!" posts, why is that even thread worthy? Also, seriously, stop with this bonjwa crap. Some people have no respect whatsoever. People get so butthurt over words on the internet. Don't let what some random guy on the internet said ruin your whole day. Just food for thought. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:33 1Eris1 wrote: Don't see why it has to be for Stephano only though. No one else makes threads like this, unless it's a team announcement or something like that. This is exactly what fan clubs are for; shit this OP has two sentences and is just full of "Yay!" posts, why is that even thread worthy? Also, seriously, stop with this bonjwa crap. Some people have no respect whatsoever. Here's a thought, how about you let the TL Mods determine whether something is thread worthy or not. You constantly complaining in it, is just bumping it! If you don't like the thread then how about just ignoring it. Bit revolutionary, I know. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:35 -TesteR- wrote: He means this is some of the best news for stephano fans since he hasn't done anything recently, don't know why he added in the random Jinro RO4 fact :D IPL4 was quite recent. Like just over a week. Or did you mean the last 5 minutes? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:40 revel8 wrote: IPL4 was quite recent. Like just over a week. Or did you mean the last 5 minutes? Well we do have what seems like a big tournament every weekend ( Or two! ) in the sc2 world right now, so I can see why it would feel like a long time to some people. OT: Cool, I hope he gets a Code S seed and does well. | ||
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Xodushai
Sweden174 Posts
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JohnMatrix
France1358 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:33 1Eris1 wrote: Don't see why it has to be for Stephano only though. No one else makes threads like this, unless it's a team announcement or something like that. This is exactly what fan clubs are for; shit this OP has two sentences and is just full of "Yay!" posts, why is that even thread worthy? Also, seriously, stop with this bonjwa crap. Some people have no respect whatsoever. It would have been the same thing for any popular player you know... | ||
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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:59 0kz wrote: yes this is huge but the answer to your spoiler is NO, stop using that word, -_- Agreed. As much I'd love to see Stephano doing very well people are obviously not familiar with the term bonjwa... | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
edit: also, bonjwa incoming. Haters gonna hate. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10700 Posts
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:33 Lasbike wrote: Sooo...NightEnd going to Korea, Lyn leaving Pandarea or the GM Protoss YaTa releasing a replay pack, it's all more important than (one of) the best foreigner continuing his SC2 career for another whole year ? Anyway, this is great news. I hope he'll do well in Korea..Cause if I remember correctly, he didn't really enjoy his last trip there (But it was more because of the lifestyle than SC2). yeah, the cultural pain of adjusting to a completely different land, with its own idiosyncrasies, not being able to speak the language or even do the most basic of basics. But also if you observe Stephano's character(or the character that he shows on interviews and on stage), and then put that type of personality in Korea...the differences between him assimilating in the US versus Korea...where he can say "Team USA, fuck off" with no problem the US, comparing that versus being in Korea...the list goes on forever but we can say without a doubt that the cultural shock in additional to all the things that go into learning the new culture, would not add up to a great experience. I see Stephano being his own man. Not bowing to a new culture's requirements and particulars, which doesn't fit what he wants. ..see guys, this is the reasons why we should never forget IdrA for doing what he did(move to Korea @18 years of age). we should appreciate him... | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:43 Mentalizor wrote: Agreed. As much I'd love to see Stephano doing very well people are obviously not familiar with the term bonjwa... Seriously guys? Are you really that elitist that you cant even handle guys suggesting that someone might BECOME a bonjwa??? Really? I can suggest that TT1 will become the next bonjwa without breaking any made up "rules". Good god people get butthurt. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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inermis
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with MaNa going full time after this final exams in may, we will have quite competitive players to stand up to the korean powerhouse ! | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:47 inermis wrote: great news for foreign scene ! best of luck to you Stephano ! with MaNa going full time after this final exams in may, we will have quite competitive players to stand up to the korean powerhouse ! Great news about Mana too. Although make sure you study hard for the next month Mana! | ||
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kratos-23
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:11 scarrow wrote: Ha ha ha! You are so fucking funny and original. Please continue! You're so witty and sarcastic on the internet. You must be so popular =D Also, I'm very glad that he decided on this. I enjoy watching his play a lot. | ||
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Girondelle
France969 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
Fantastic news. | ||
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Rokevo
Finland1033 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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Von
United States363 Posts
It would be a setup for huge regrets and "what if's" taking the more 'practical' road into school right now. And he's doing so well I would be very suprised if his family were not 100% in his corner on this decision. This is awesome news for us foreigner fans. | ||
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:37 Gatored wrote: People get so butthurt over words on the internet. Don't let what some random guy on the internet said ruin your whole day. Just food for thought. that's what came to my head too, but this is not the first occurance, seems to be an epidemic of over-sensitive people here on TL, who, just because someone says something even minorly objectionable, it completely destroyed the person's day and there's no recovery whatsoever. Back on topic, it's true. Naniwa and Stephano look to be the dual of true hope, it may just be all we have... | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:33 Eee wrote: Idra once said "Apologize for playing that race!" in a game, he's just joking with you. I just want to point out that if IdrA ever says something like that to you, he is not doing it with a smile on his face. He hates what you did, or just did, and wishes the very worst on you. He's not happy with you...just needing to say that. | ||
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strength
United States493 Posts
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:55 MrMotionPicture wrote: Stephano is the best! I hope he gets a Code S seed. I hope and think so. He was supposedly offered one for Season 1, but turned it down. If Idra and Sen can get seeds, Stephano will definitely get a seed. He was able to hold with top Koreans at IPL 4 pretty well, went 3-3 in series. | ||
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Kevinshi3
United States148 Posts
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
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figq
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ratbert
Germany1041 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:57 D_K_night wrote: that's what came to my head too, but this is not the first occurance, seems to be an epidemic of over-sensitive people here on TL, who, just because someone says something even minorly objectionable, it completely destroyed the person's day and there's no recovery whatsoever. Back on topic, it's true. Naniwa and Stephano look to be the dual of true hope, it may just be all we have... Conveniently, there's a countdown to when you're proven wrong in the top right of this website + Show Spoiler + Admittedly, HuK hasn't been quite as impressive this past month as Stephano or Naniwa, but he's easily the third best foreigner based on results. | ||
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teaCher
Canada521 Posts
I just don't like his attitude, it might just be because hes young and immature but you don't go into a major tournaments almost bragging that u didnt practice, even announcing it to the public just looks bad. Wouldn't team managers be ticked off or embarrassed if they send a player to a tournaments and he states " i have not practiced" , It makes the team look bad, and shows a little bit immaturity on Stephano's end. If only he was a little more modest, it would be ideal idol for starcraft 2. Might be the french in him and makes him act this way. | ||
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Edahspmal
United States156 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
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Antithesis
Germany1233 Posts
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canikizu
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On the topic, I used to dislike Stephano because his half-ass attitude toward professional gaming, but now I don't hate him anymore. He's actually a cool dude. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
[A]: Hell yeah! [B]: Hell the fuck yeah! [C]: Holy dogshit, this is fucking awesome [D]: All of the Above I'm going with D, personally. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Stephano to be Code S,ezpz. | ||
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Beakyboo
United States485 Posts
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
I kind of knew he woulnt stop | ||
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Forsy
Canada36 Posts
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BamBam
745 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:45 aderum wrote: Seriously guys? Are you really that elitist that you cant even handle guys suggesting that someone might BECOME a bonjwa??? Really? I can suggest that TT1 will become the next bonjwa without breaking any made up "rules". Good god people get butthurt. You yourself obviously dont understand just what that word means if your willing to use it so loosely. Hell it took a full year of Flash dominating BW before people finally came to grips of even muttering the word. You don't use the word in place of adjectives about a player, as the term itself is a title. And please learn a little history before you start throwing insults at the community over our "made up rules" as you put it. | ||
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Frail
Iceland336 Posts
Or he could be seeded and earn it like nani! | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2750 Posts
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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Benjamin99
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On April 20 2012 06:33 1Eris1 wrote: Don't see why it has to be for Stephano only though. No one else makes threads like this, unless it's a team announcement or something like that. This is exactly what fan clubs are for; shit this OP has two sentences and is just full of "Yay!" posts, why is that even thread worthy? Also, seriously, stop with this bonjwa crap. Some people have no respect whatsoever. Dear Eris you constant bashing and hating on Stephano is getting sad. Do you and hallowed got a club or something? Also have some bloddy respect for the future bonjwa | ||
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Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
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SilentSC2
United States505 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:18 Energizer wrote: You yourself obviously dont understand just what that word means if your willing to use it so loosely. Hell it took a full year of Flash dominating BW before people finally came to grips of even muttering the word. You don't use the word in place of adjectives about a player, as the term itself is a title. And please learn a little history before you start throwing insults at the community over our "made up rules" as you put it. This guy right here... He gets it. OT: Good news, good move and good luck Stephano. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:25 Benjamin99 wrote: Dear Eris you constant bashing and hating on Stephano is getting sad. Do you and hallowed got a club or something? Also have some bloddy respect for the future bonjwa Never once bashed Stephano's play, just his ridiculous and overbearing fans. | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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Young Terran
United Kingdom265 Posts
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
kind of conflicted about it though because even if he retains Code S (ro8 or better), he'll probably give it up because he won't be staying in korea | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:11 scarrow wrote: Ha ha ha! You are so fucking funny and original. Please continue! I clearly wasn't even trying to be original. Try to be less spiteful and less of a jerk in general. | ||
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
Don't get me wrong, I'd put him in the top two foreigner with Naniwa easily, but his constant no-shows, his lack of dedication to what basically is his job, and just the general attitude he gives when he does something that is wrong. I'm utterly confused as to why people think his the bees knees, but I guess each to their own. With that being said, I don't think his going to succeed too far in the GSL based on what Koreans have said. He is able to take games and potentially sets, but as most people have stated, once they get used to his play style he'll drop out like he did in the Cup. Now you can say 'oh but he was xx GM in korea' yeah that's cool and all, except for the sole factor that GM means nothing. Everyone knows Stephano is good his mechanics and responses are extremely tight and spot on, but I don't think his style of play will allow him to progress in the GSL as his opponents have an ample amount of time to study Stephano, and as most pro's have said already(which I keep having to repeat since it is so important) once you figure out Stephano's play style his not as big of a threat as if you didn't have any research on him. Once a player can dissect Stephano's play style, and abuse the weakness of Stephano then he'll just drop. Most people in the GSL are on a pro team with a coach who will help analyse players for them and point out weakness in their play, and the weaknesses the player has against the opponent. So pretty much, Stephano is going to show some games where his opponents completely forgot or abstained on researching Stephano thus going to get pulverized, then there's the players that did, and will make it look like a fair match or potentially even one sided in their favour. But I do think it's not far-fetched to say that Stephano has some of the best mechanics right now, I do think it's far-fetched to call him a Code S player despite not actually participating in GSL yet. GSL is a completely different tournament to foreign and online tournaments. Let time speak for itself rather then jumping the gun. | ||
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striderxxx
Canada443 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:27 1Eris1 wrote: Never once bashed Stephano's play, just his ridiculous and overbearing fans. Dont be so uptight and allow fans to be fans. Just giving objective, purely rational assessments of the guy you are fan of is not the point of being a fan. | ||
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Morrisson
289 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:33 1Eris1 wrote: Don't see why it has to be for Stephano only though. No one else makes threads like this, unless it's a team announcement or something like that. This is exactly what fan clubs are for; shit this OP has two sentences and is just full of "Yay!" posts, why is that even thread worthy? Also, seriously, stop with this bonjwa crap. Some people have no respect whatsoever. Maybe because Stephano is, money wise, the most succesfull non-korean progamer? Because he is top 2, in term of skill righ now, along with Naniwa? Maybe because people like to cheer for him? You are full of rage, it's sad for you :/ And stop with the bonjwa "respect", it's a joke, just like the USA part... | ||
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RUS RO DAH!!!
United States277 Posts
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OceanLab
France505 Posts
Stephano fighting! Code S anytime soon? :D | ||
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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
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United States65 Posts
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loliologist
Canada7 Posts
I can't say I'm super excited with Stephano sticking around, unless he magically learns some professionalism. While he may be a good player, he has shown a pattern of disrespect to the tournaments he enters and this is not good for SC2 as an eSport. Maybe he will learn some grace and manners, like the new Naniwa, but I don't count on it. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:27 1Eris1 wrote: Never once bashed Stephano's play, just his ridiculous and overbearing fans. Sadly his ridiculous and overbearing fans is the main thing people dislike Stephano for. If they were a bit more reasonable he wouldn't be disliked by a percentage of the community based solely on that. | ||
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Lasbike
France2888 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:45 loliologist wrote: So Stephano announces he's going to play SC2 for another year... just as he forfeits a match in the NASL. He was on a ski vacation with his family. He tried to find a good gaming computer, DURING his ski vacation, in the damn montain, and couldn't find one. MillStephano @MillStephano Sorry for the people waiting for the match between i and puma,i couldnt find a place with a decent connection to play, being in the mountain I get it that people can be angry at Stephano for not showing up at different events when he was clearly in front of his computer but just not bothering. But it's kinda ridiculous to give him shit on the NASL thing. | ||
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Ballack
Norway821 Posts
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MaGariShun
Austria305 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:45 loliologist wrote: So Stephano announces he's going to play SC2 for another year... just as he forfeits a match in the NASL. I can't say I'm super excited with Stephano sticking around, unless he magically learns some professionalism. While he may be a good player, he has shown a pattern of disrespect to the tournaments he enters and this is not good for SC2 as an eSport. Maybe he will learn some grace and manners, like the new Naniwa, but I don't count on it. He has personality. I could care less about uninteresting players like Polt or Squirtle who are good, but never do or say anything out of the ordinary. I know there are a lot of "I don't care who he is and what he does, I just want to see the best possible games" guys around here, but that's not how I roll. That's also the reason why Idra has 10k+ viewers everytime he streams while some top koreans way better than him don't even get 1k.. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:52 Lasbike wrote: He was on a ski vacation with his family. He tried to find a good gaming computer, DURING his ski vacation, in the damn montain, and couldn't find one. I get it that people can be angry at Stephano for not showing up at different events when he was clearly in front of his computer but just not bothering. But it's kinda ridiculous to give him shit on the NASL thing. He's improving in this responsibility thing. Last time he did a no-show during the MSI Cup and Iron Squid, he gave no explanation, no heads up to the organizers, nothing. I'm fine with what he did this time given the circumstances. | ||
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
I'm pretty sure he's already up to 110 000 $ just in prize money - then you add in the money from stream and team and this kid is pretty incredibly loading. Not to mention he is very young actually ! I can't understand why you'd go to college this early, I mean, I took two years off just cause I wanted to and I didn't have this insane career keeping me from studies, hehe | ||
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Greece2376 Posts
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United States1004 Posts
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Denmark302 Posts
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m0ck
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On April 20 2012 07:33 MonkSEA wrote: I don't get why Stephano is all the rave and worshipped so heavily. Don't get me wrong, I'd put him in the top two foreigner with Naniwa easily, but his constant no-shows, his lack of dedication to what basically is his job, and just the general attitude he gives when he does something that is wrong. I'm utterly confused as to why people think his the bees knees, but I guess each to their own. With that being said, I don't think his going to succeed too far in the GSL based on what Koreans have said. He is able to take games and potentially sets, but as most people have stated, once they get used to his play style he'll drop out like he did in the Cup. Now you can say 'oh but he was xx GM in korea' yeah that's cool and all, except for the sole factor that GM means nothing. Everyone knows Stephano is good his mechanics and responses are extremely tight and spot on, but I don't think his style of play will allow him to progress in the GSL as his opponents have an ample amount of time to study Stephano, and as most pro's have said already(which I keep having to repeat since it is so important) once you figure out Stephano's play style his not as big of a threat as if you didn't have any research on him. Once a player can dissect Stephano's play style, and abuse the weakness of Stephano then he'll just drop. Most people in the GSL are on a pro team with a coach who will help analyse players for them and point out weakness in their play, and the weaknesses the player has against the opponent. So pretty much, Stephano is going to show some games where his opponents completely forgot or abstained on researching Stephano thus going to get pulverized, then there's the players that did, and will make it look like a fair match or potentially even one sided in their favour. But I do think it's not far-fetched to say that Stephano has some of the best mechanics right now, I do think it's far-fetched to call him a Code S player despite not actually participating in GSL yet. GSL is a completely different tournament to foreign and online tournaments. Let time speak for itself rather then jumping the gun. So what exactly will be figured out, his great macro, his speed, his uncanny ability to read his opposition, his attention to the mini-map? Being predictable is always a weakness, and Stephano can be that, but as we've seen in the last month, he's certainly able to reinvent himself. Think of his use of roaches in ZvT where he was previously known for mass ling/infestor. He was able to improve his play and took out his nemesis Polt over multiple series. I think your view of Stephanos play (and really, zerg play - the options are quite limited and thus it is harder to be 'found out') is overly simplistic. We've heard the predictions of Stephano being found out for more than half a year. Well, it hasn't happened yet. I think the danger lies more in the overall difficulty of succeeding with zerg in the GSL code S, to be honest. It would be pretty amazing, and even surprising, if stephano would be able to succeed where DRG, Nestea and Leenock have failed this past month. | ||
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Deezl
United States355 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:09 tetrismaan wrote: I think NaNiWas performance in the GSL have had some thing to say in his decision. He found out that it really is possible for a foreigner to compete and maybe even win the big money from the GSL, and now he will actually try to see if he is the one who is going to do it. I don't think that Stephano thinks like this at all... | ||
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Blennd
United States266 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:33 1Eris1 wrote: Don't see why it has to be for Stephano only though. No one else makes threads like this, unless it's a team announcement or something like that. This is exactly what fan clubs are for; shit this OP has two sentences and is just full of "Yay!" posts, why is that even thread worthy? Also, seriously, stop with this bonjwa crap. Some people have no respect whatsoever. Virtually every foreigner who has gone to Korea has gotten a thread... | ||
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United States4482 Posts
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TheLOLas
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
thx for thinking of us stephano lol. | ||
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France1954 Posts
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MaGariShun
Austria305 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:12 Deezl wrote: I don't think that Stephano thinks like this at all... Stephano probably doesn't know who this Naniwa is... | ||
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China7935 Posts
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loliologist
Canada7 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:52 Lasbike wrote: He was on a ski vacation with his family. He tried to find a good gaming computer, DURING his ski vacation, in the damn montain, and couldn't find one. I get it that people can be angry at Stephano for not showing up at different events when he was clearly in front of his computer but just not bothering. But it's kinda ridiculous to give him shit on the NASL thing. I'll add a bit of context, I refer to Stephano as a professional SC2 player. I don't care if you're on family vacation, as a professional it's your responsibility to ensure you meet your obligations.* Sure, it sucks at times, but those are the responsibilities of being a professional and why professionals should garner respect. *As a note I am interested to see why the NASL match wasn't either played in advance or deferred, presuming Stephano gave sufficient notice | ||
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The_Unseen
France1923 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:07 sad.wish wrote:Might be the french in him and makes him act this way. Well that's racist... | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:26 loliologist wrote: I'll add a bit of context, I refer to Stephano as a professional SC2 player. I don't care if you're on family vacation, as a professional it's your responsibility to ensure you meet your obligations.* Sure, it sucks at times, but those are the responsibilities of being a professional and why professionals should garner respect. *As a note I am interested to see why the NASL match wasn't either played in advance or deferred, presuming Stephano gave sufficient notice Hate to break it to you but outside Korea being a professional gamer doesn't require you to actually be professional yet, people may be upset but nothing is going to happen. | ||
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The.Imperator
138 Posts
! Its really amazing how well he has been able to compete even with the code S koreans just by practicing on the EU server most of the time. | ||
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amiGo_O
Czech Republic959 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:56 Amokoma wrote: Holy crap! This is huge! Foreigner + Show Spoiler + bonjwa please keep this conversation in GSL Ro16 Group A thread, no need to discuss it here again | ||
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CeriseCherries
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well stephano is really fucking good and itd be sad if he just quit | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:12 Deezl wrote: I don't think that Stephano thinks like this at all... Not exactly that way, but he does pay attention to the fortune of other foreigners. One of his interview answers right before MLG Winter changed how I looked at him. When asked about why he's thinking about quiting, he said to the effect of - I'm not worried about SC 2, I'm worried about how well I'm going to do in the future. Take Jinro as an example - he was the best foreigner player a year ago, but now he is nothing. I don't want to end up that way. I think Stephano is taken back by his own success. Behind that confident, happy-go-lucky exterior, he is worried about how far he is able to go, and terrified of the prospect of fading into obscurity. Being able to pull out of SC and into a stable career gives him that peace of mind he craves, and I think that's the trick to understanding Stephano. He comprehends the fickleness of eSports and fame, and is trying to not dig himself too deeply into it. | ||
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Norway1607 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:31 kyllinghest wrote: I bet Naniwas success had a say in the decision. I doubt it. Stephano has stated on multiple occasions that he's doing it for the money. | ||
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GoodRiot
United States75 Posts
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:26 loliologist wrote: I'll add a bit of context, I refer to Stephano as a professional SC2 player. I don't care if you're on family vacation, as a professional it's your responsibility to ensure you meet your obligations.* Sure, it sucks at times, but those are the responsibilities of being a professional and why professionals should garner respect. *As a note I am interested to see why the NASL match wasn't either played in advance or deferred, presuming Stephano gave sufficient notice Well, from the thread it seemed that Stephano informed NASL that he would be unable to play three days from the day of the match (which was when he found out that it would not be possible to play the game). NASL unfortunately failed to pass that information on to Puma, who waited up for Stephano. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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JOJOsc2news
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Nah.. awesome! | ||
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Nabes
Canada1800 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:40 Forikorder wrote: so is he pulling a page from combat ex and jsut pretending hes gonna quit then? Why would he pretend? He wanted to let his fans and others know that there was a possibility of him quitting in the near future, its the nice thing to say when you are popular atleast. Lol @ comparing the two players anyways, combat isnt even a professional player. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:46 OrangeSoda wrote: Why would he pretend? He wanted to let his fans and others know that there was a possibility of him quitting in the near future, its the nice thing to say when you are popular atleast. Lol @ comparing the two players anyways, combat isnt even a professional player. all im saying is when stephano first started apearing he kept saying how he didnt care about starcraft and barely practiced then we learned he practices pretty hard and now hes extending his "break" for another year in a year, hell either do the same thing or jsut pretend he didnt say hed quit in a year | ||
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United States25558 Posts
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Eeevil
Netherlands359 Posts
Good heavens man, give Protoss a chance ! BTW, did Stephano have contract negotiations ? I always thought that Stephano said he was going to quit after a year so he could leverage a better contract. Especially since he made the satement right after his last contract was signed after some out of the box negotiation tactics on Stephano's part. | ||
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c78331
Greece64 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:47 Forikorder wrote: all im saying is when stephano first started apearing he kept saying how he didnt care about starcraft and barely practiced then we learned he practices pretty hard and now hes extending his "break" for another year in a year, hell either do the same thing or jsut pretend he didnt say hed quit in a year I don't think he lied about how much he practices unless you know his smurfs where he plays his extra games. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:52 c78331 wrote: I don't think he lied about how much he practices unless you know his smurfs where he plays his extra games. despite him saying in interviews that he practics 8+ hours a day | ||
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mahO
France274 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:54 1Eris1 wrote: Theres a fanclub for this. Seriously, why do I have to see a new thread in sc2 general every time stephano does something? Probably the best player out of Korea (well my opinion doesnt mean much, but I guess Nestea's does), who's confirming he's going to keep playing Starcraft 2, yeah, thats so freaking little news it shouldnt get a thread... Idiot seriously | ||
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DYEAlabaster
Canada1009 Posts
They want him so bad. | ||
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Nabes
Canada1800 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:47 Forikorder wrote: all im saying is when stephano first started apearing he kept saying how he didnt care about starcraft and barely practiced then we learned he practices pretty hard and now hes extending his "break" for another year in a year, hell either do the same thing or jsut pretend he didnt say hed quit in a year What are you trying to say? I doubt he would lie about wanting to quit starcraft for a real career. He is having too much fun and making too much money to just quit now. | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:55 Forikorder wrote: despite him saying in interviews that he practics 8+ hours a day It started with him practicing for 3-4 hours a day then everyone took it way out of context, assuming he did it all the time. Before he started getting really good he was only playing 3-4 hours a day but whenever he had major tournaments coming up he stated that he practices 5-6 or up to 8/9 hours a day for them. However the silly fanboys kept going "OMG only 3 hours practice and raping top Koreans OMG". (Don't get mad anyone as i love Stephano, i just hate it when people act like retards) | ||
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Sweden702 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:58 OrangeSoda wrote: What are you trying to say? I doubt he would lie about wanting to quit starcraft for a real career. He is having too much fun and making too much money to just quit now. he wont quit until he cant play anymore id bet anything on it | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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mahO
France274 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:47 Forikorder wrote: all im saying is when stephano first started apearing he kept saying how he didnt care about starcraft and barely practiced then we learned he practices pretty hard and now hes extending his "break" for another year in a year, hell either do the same thing or jsut pretend he didnt say hed quit in a year He had little practice time and not by choice, simply because he was finishing highschool and didnt have the success as a pro gamer that would have made him practice like crazy. Why do people say dumb things when the player actually mentioned that yes, he is now training very hard, we didnt "learn" it, he said it, it's not like he's acting like "I never play, i'm just that good". If you wanna give him shit for false statements, you should actually keep track of what the guy said instead of picking from the little informations you had on the subject, and post about it on TL | ||
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c78331
Greece64 Posts
On April 20 2012 08:55 Forikorder wrote: despite him saying in interviews that he practics 8+ hours a day He never said he practices on average 8+ hours besides that look at his profile to see how many games he has played.And even while he was in kr just before the blizzard cup he said in the gom interview he practiced 4-5 hours/day for it. As i said unless he lies about not using smurfs he doesnt play much. | ||
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Xcobidoo
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KillAudio
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MentalGNT
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RyF
Austria508 Posts
maybe that's the reason why he is going.... | ||
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
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The_DarkAngelz
Brazil221 Posts
maybe he can't stand being behind Nani ! ^^ what u guys think? | ||
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Vira
573 Posts
On April 20 2012 09:07 The_DarkAngelz wrote: Does this news have anything to do with Naniwa code S achievement? maybe he can't stand being behind Nani ! ^^ what u guys think? I think he dont even know about Naniwa achievement actually. | ||
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Mario1209
United States1077 Posts
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Fubi
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On April 20 2012 09:07 The_DarkAngelz wrote: Does this news have anything to do with Naniwa code S achievement? maybe he can't stand being behind Nani ! ^^ what u guys think? I don't think it'll be the same for Stephanos, considering the number of Terrans in GSL that are godly against Z and the current state of TvZ; it's like completely opposite for Naniwa, where most of the Terran in GSL is sub-par against Protoss, with current metagame favoring Protoss as well. | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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Germany16 Posts
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Australia452 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 20 2012 09:12 Fubi wrote: I don't think it'll be the same for Stephanos, considering the number of Terrans in GSL that are godly against Z and the current state of TvZ; it's like completely opposite for Naniwa, where most of the Terran in GSL is sub-par against Protoss, with current metagame favoring Protoss as well. Indeed, and this is why using GSL performance as a sole measure of a player's skill level is fallacious. A player's success is a function of the state of the match-ups he plays, and the match-ups aren't 50-50 at every point in time - they vary based on the meta-game. Naniwa is doing well in the GSL now, but he had a horrible record in it just a few months prior. But Naniwa didn't suddenly improve his skill tenfold. No - he got better match-ups this time around, and that is a huge deal when it comes to the GSL, where GSL Code S champions fall out of Code A every other run. | ||
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An2quamaraN
Poland379 Posts
Seriously who needs studies when you can have a life like that. Aren't we all dreaming about doing what we love for life and getting paid for it? I understand the desire to get some educational degree, but there's time for that. And in the end...who will actually care if he went to a university when he will swim in money and travel around the world? Very happy to hear your decision, hoping for you to put away studies for even10 years. | ||
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shineq
United Kingdom1453 Posts
Stephano, please own some faces in the GSL! :D | ||
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United States9965 Posts
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Australia4040 Posts
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:33 MonkSEA wrote: I don't get why Stephano is all the rave and worshipped so heavily. Don't get me wrong, I'd put him in the top two foreigner with Naniwa easily, but his constant no-shows, his lack of dedication to what basically is his job, and just the general attitude he gives when he does something that is wrong. I'm utterly confused as to why people think his the bees knees, but I guess each to their own. With that being said, I don't think his going to succeed too far in the GSL based on what Koreans have said. He is able to take games and potentially sets, but as most people have stated, once they get used to his play style he'll drop out like he did in the Cup. Now you can say 'oh but he was xx GM in korea' yeah that's cool and all, except for the sole factor that GM means nothing. Everyone knows Stephano is good his mechanics and responses are extremely tight and spot on, but I don't think his style of play will allow him to progress in the GSL as his opponents have an ample amount of time to study Stephano, and as most pro's have said already(which I keep having to repeat since it is so important) once you figure out Stephano's play style his not as big of a threat as if you didn't have any research on him. Once a player can dissect Stephano's play style, and abuse the weakness of Stephano then he'll just drop. Most people in the GSL are on a pro team with a coach who will help analyse players for them and point out weakness in their play, and the weaknesses the player has against the opponent. So pretty much, Stephano is going to show some games where his opponents completely forgot or abstained on researching Stephano thus going to get pulverized, then there's the players that did, and will make it look like a fair match or potentially even one sided in their favour. But I do think it's not far-fetched to say that Stephano has some of the best mechanics right now, I do think it's far-fetched to call him a Code S player despite not actually participating in GSL yet. GSL is a completely different tournament to foreign and online tournaments. Let time speak for itself rather then jumping the gun. I assume you don't watch much starcraft since Stephano's style of ling infestor is the go to build on Antiga and on most other maps for Korean zerg (except for July perhaps). Clearly, if his "style" had been figured out it wouldn't be the go to build in Korea. . . His vP has been the subject of numerous posts and is well known by every Protoss pro in existence. No one has figured it out yet. JYP has the second highest ELO in Korea in zvp (among P) and he's 1-6 against Stephano. Stephano struggled against Squirtle on the ladder and MC a bit. I'm not aware of anyone else who's had consistent success against him. If MC and Stephano played today, I'd take Stephano if you give me even odds.(JYP has better vZ than MC.) His vz allowed him to take a game off Nestea in a bof3 (outplaying him in the one game that advanced to the mid game) and beat Curious (who's probably top 5 in zvz). He's also beaten Zenio (who's top5 in zvz in Korea based on Elo). These are all recent series. Stephano has a million hours of video available for review on Justin.tv. This is to say, if there were something to "figure out" about Stephano, it would already have been done. The only pro of any consequence, other than Idra (who now recognizes Stephano as his lord and savior in vP at least), who said he's going to be figured out was DRG back during the Blizzard Cup. But Nestea, MVP, Polt, MC, etc. have all said he's the best foreigner and MVP, Polt and MKP have all said Stephano could have success in Code S. And, for good measure, I'll note that Polt and MKP both called Stephano a "genius", which is a good description of a guy who has cleaned up but practices around 3 hours a day typically, and a bit more when he streams. Stephano has tremendous upside even though he's already accomplished so much. This is one of the reasons people are so high on him. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
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United States15742 Posts
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AC3
Canada337 Posts
On April 20 2012 09:36 The_Darkness wrote: which is a good description of a guy who has cleaned up but practices around 3 hours a day typically Did you listen to his interview on SOTG? He said the 3 hours a day was primarily while he was attending school, QXC asked about this common misconception. Stephano said that since his trip to Korea he practices on average for 8 hours a day. Don't get me wrong, the guy is obviously extremely gifted and talented at this game, but thinking he's only ever put it 3 hours of practice a day is simply not the case. | ||
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United States408 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45342 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:21 Otolia wrote: First page. Congratulations. But your performance is lackluster and doesn't express enough rage. Remaining challengers to the downer award for being a huge downer : Hall0wed and DarkPlasmaBall. Stay tuned for more pointless criticism ! User was warned for this post I see what you did there Best of luck to Stephano; I've been saying for a while that I'm hoping he plays in Korea (which would only happen if he decided to play SC2 for a longer period of time), and now we get to see how he fares in the GSL Always happy to see more foreigners and Zergs in Korea ^^ | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 20 2012 09:51 AC3 wrote: Did you listen to his interview on SOTG? He said the 3 hours a day was primarily while he was attending school, QXC asked about this common misconception. Stephano said that since his trip to Korea he practices on average for 8 hours a day. Don't get me wrong, the guy is obviously extremely gifted and talented at this game, but thinking his current success is stemming from 3 hours of practice a day is simply not the case. He sure as hell hasn't been practicing 8 hours a day on his accounts. Between Lone Star and MLG, and between MLG and IPL, I don't think he's put in time beyond 2-3 hours a day, unless there's a smurf that nobody knows about. | ||
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AC3
Canada337 Posts
On April 20 2012 09:57 Azarkon wrote: He sure as hell hasn't been practicing 8 hours a day on his accounts. Between Lone Star and MLG, and between MLG and IPL, I don't think he's put in time beyond 2-3 hours a day, unless there's a smurf that nobody knows about. Thanks for clearing that up, its news to me. I don't follow him too closely so I don't know how much he has been practicing as of late. What I said stems from the question QXC asked in SOTG 65 (question at 39:30), and was more directed to people who think he has never put in more than 3 hours of practice in his whole career. Seeing as before this announcement he was still considering giving up SC2, its not surprising to hear that he wasn't as committed to practicing as he was previously. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:33 MonkSEA wrote: I don't get why Stephano is all the rave and worshipped so heavily. Don't get me wrong, I'd put him in the top two foreigner with Naniwa easily, but his constant no-shows, his lack of dedication to what basically is his job, and just the general attitude he gives when he does something that is wrong. I'm utterly confused as to why people think his the bees knees, but I guess each to their own. With that being said, I don't think his going to succeed too far in the GSL based on what Koreans have said. He is able to take games and potentially sets, but as most people have stated, once they get used to his play style he'll drop out like he did in the Cup. Now you can say 'oh but he was xx GM in korea' yeah that's cool and all, except for the sole factor that GM means nothing. Everyone knows Stephano is good his mechanics and responses are extremely tight and spot on, but I don't think his style of play will allow him to progress in the GSL as his opponents have an ample amount of time to study Stephano, and as most pro's have said already(which I keep having to repeat since it is so important) once you figure out Stephano's play style his not as big of a threat as if you didn't have any research on him. Once a player can dissect Stephano's play style, and abuse the weakness of Stephano then he'll just drop. Most people in the GSL are on a pro team with a coach who will help analyse players for them and point out weakness in their play, and the weaknesses the player has against the opponent. So pretty much, Stephano is going to show some games where his opponents completely forgot or abstained on researching Stephano thus going to get pulverized, then there's the players that did, and will make it look like a fair match or potentially even one sided in their favour. But I do think it's not far-fetched to say that Stephano has some of the best mechanics right now, I do think it's far-fetched to call him a Code S player despite not actually participating in GSL yet. GSL is a completely different tournament to foreign and online tournaments. Let time speak for itself rather then jumping the gun. Stephano is still able to beat Koreans as displayed at IPL4. He won IPL3 6 months ago. All this talk about being figured out is nonsense as it still has not happened 6 months down the line. Like many players Stephano is capable of improving and changing his game. Having team-mates who support a player by giving practise games and help analyse an opponents play-style says nothing about a players skill-level. That is all about having a better support network. That helps in the GSL of course. Maybe Stephano will develop a network of supporting players too. Obviously Stephano is a Code S Level Player. He has beaten many players who have played in Code S and some of these players are on the record as stating he is a Code S Level Player. I am not saying he is going to win GSL or even come close but he can certainly beat Code S players. Naniwa is a Code S Level Player too. He did not suddenly double his skill level in the last ten days. Going to Korea helps a player to improve their level of play. It has happened to Naniwa. Squirtle and Ace helped increase Naniwa's understanding of SC2. Huk improved too in Korea. Numerous foreigners go to Korea because doing so can help them get better at SC2. There is no reason why Stephano cannot improve too once he is in Korea and has a higher level of opponents to practice against. All this talk about Stephano getting figured out is just based on something Idra said around IPL3. However Idra now acknowledges how good Stephano is and that he is here and making an impact in the metagame. Imagine how good Stephano could be if he started adopting Korean habits of hard-training and detailed analysis of opponents. Stephano could potentially improve quite a bit. The fact is that people have been dismissing Stephano since he first emerged. There is a thread about his ladder run and it contains posts in which doubters have made various claims about Stephano being nothing special and soon to be found out. Reading that thread now is hilarious. Your post is just a continuation of those doubters claims. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 20 2012 10:11 revel8 wrote: Stephano is still able to beat Koreans as displayed at IPL4. He won IPL3 6 months ago. All this talk about being figured out is nonsense as it still has not happened 6 months down the line. Like many players Stephano is capable of improving and changing his game. Having team-mates who support a player by giving practise games and help analyse an opponents play-style says nothing about a players skill-level. That is all about having a better support network. That helps in the GSL of course. Maybe Stephano will develop a network of supporting players too. Obviously Stephano is a Code S Level Player. He has beaten many players who have played in Code S and some of these players are on the record as stating he is a Code S Level Player. Naniwa is a Code S Level Player too. He did not suddenly double his skill level in the last ten days. Going to Korea helps a player to improve their level of play. It has happened to Naniwa. Squirtle and Ace helped increase Naniwa's understanding of SC2. Huk improved too in Korea. Numerous foreigners go to Korea because doing so can help them get better at SC2. There is no reason why Stephano cannot improve too once he is in Korea and has a higher level of opponents to practice against. All this talk about Stephano getting figured out is just based on something Idra said around IPL3. However Idra now acknowledges how good Stephano is and that he is here and making an impact in the metagame. The fact is that people have been dismissing Stephano since he first emerged. There is a thread about his ladder run and it contains posts in which doubters have made various claims about Stephano being nothing special and soon to be found out. Reading that thread now is hilarious. Your post is just a continuation of those doubters claims. imo with all the team partnerships and all the tournaments going around now and the level of foreigners being higher and how pretty mcuh everyone is on korean ladder anyway saying someone will improve drastically by going to kroea jsut isnt that true anymore | ||
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revel8
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On April 20 2012 10:28 Forikorder wrote: imo with all the team partnerships and all the tournaments going around now and the level of foreigners being higher and how pretty mcuh everyone is on korean ladder anyway saying someone will improve drastically by going to kroea jsut isnt that true anymore Do Idra, Huk and Naniwa agree with you? Do NightEnd, Sase and Morrow agree with you? They have all gone to Korea and expect it to improve them. Are you saying they have got it all wrong and will never improve? Stephano does not play on the Korean Ladder currently. He only did during his stint in December while in Korea. Numerous Pro players are on the record as stating that playing on Korean Ladder helps improve a player. Are you saying that this is wrong and that this does not happen? Are you saying that only Stephano will fail to improve by playing on Korean Ladder? Please explain why all these pros I mentioned should listen to you and not bother going to Korea to improve. I am curious to know. I am no expert myself, but it seems that these Foreign Pros are going to Korea with an expectation that doing so is beneficial to them. I assume that they know what they are doing. Are you saying they are mistaken and I should be listening to you instead of them? | ||
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AeonStrife
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The world love you. Rock on...rock on. | ||
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iAmJeffReY
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No surprise to see him go far in GSL if he participates. Wonder if he can do like his EU ladder run 100+ wins and under 20 losses. | ||
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redDuke
Australia207 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
Anyways, he is hilarious and extremely talented. Now that he's going to stomp people on a ladder that actually has people who pose a vague threat, I can see him getting even better. Who knows, maybe seeing all the other hardworking Korean progamers in a gaming house may make him practice more. | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
Whatever makes the guy happy... I am glad it coincides with our joy from his entertaining games. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 20 2012 10:35 revel8 wrote: Do Idra, Huk and Naniwa agree with you? Do NightEnd, Sase and Morrow agree with you? They have all gone to Korea and expect it to improve them. Are you saying they have got it all wrong and will never improve? Stephano does not play on the Korean Ladder currently. He only did during his stint in December while in Korea. Numerous Pro players are on the record as stating that playing on Korean Ladder helps improve a player. Are you saying that this is wrong and that this does not happen? Are you saying that only Stephano will fail to improve by playing on Korean Ladder? Please explain why all these pros I mentioned should listen to you and not bother going to Korea to improve. I am curious to know. I am no expert myself, but it seems that these Foreign Pros are going to Korea with an expectation that doing so is beneficial to them. I assume that they know what they are doing. Are you saying they are mistaken and I should be listening to you instead of them? obviously playing on the korean ladder will help you improve SLIGHTLY faster then any other ladder but its not going to miraculously turna b teamer into a GSL champion the Korean ladder is not the steroids of starcraft 2 its a good tool to improve but it relys far far more on personal work ethic and how well you actually train you cant go to korea and practice semi seriously and expect to become code S you have to actually practice hard and work hard to improve its better to ladder on NA and work hard to be better then ladder on Korean and jsut grind games i never said you wouldnt improve by going to korea i jsut siad your not going to drastically improve | ||
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xlava
United States676 Posts
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+ Show Spoiler + FUCK YEAH, TEAM USA for the win. Lets win a GSL ^^ | ||
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On April 20 2012 05:50 HyunA wrote: Stephano just posted on twitter that he's taking another year off studies for playing starcraft 2 and he'll go back to korea in a month and a half ! This is big news, guys ! I knew he wasn't as dumb as he sounded before. GL boss Zerg you're one of the best, if not the best chance for a foreign GSL win. | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:56 Amokoma wrote: Holy crap! This is huge! Foreigner + Show Spoiler + bonjwa that's still debatable with naniwa around wait....they're both in kr....THE 10K SHOWMATCH CAN HAPPEN!!!!!!!! so hyped if that happens | ||
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Canada8840 Posts
On April 20 2012 12:04 unit wrote: that's still debatable with naniwa around wait....they're both in kr....THE 10K SHOWMATCH CAN HAPPEN!!!!!!!! so hyped if that happens hasnt stephano said he was joking about the whole deal and wasnt willing to put money on a showmatch? | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On April 20 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote: hasnt stephano said he was joking about the whole deal and wasnt willing to put money on a showmatch? FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU if that's the case well even if there isn't money i'd love to see a showmatch between them | ||
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United States2284 Posts
On April 20 2012 12:46 onedayclose wrote: Everybody knows Stephano wants to be where Naniwa is. Unfortunately he won't be able to get a GSL seed. Looks like another practice session and he will be back on the foreign tournament circuit in NO TIME. GOM has offered him a seed already for previous seasons and he's declined. I'm almost 100% sure they've offered him again and he's going this time because of it. It'd also line up as GSL Season 3 is scheduled to start in about 1.5-2 months. | ||
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CursOr
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I hope he really practices hard, with really good players. Imagine? This guy could be the best, and he deserves it. Stephano Hwaiting! | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On April 20 2012 12:48 sandman1454 wrote: wait so he is top foreigner playing on EU server for 3hours a day, now he is going to KR to play KR server and playing 10-14hours a day Not in the slightest. Pretty much everything you said there is inaccurate. | ||
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On April 20 2012 12:55 Kiyo. wrote: GOM has offered him a seed already for previous seasons and he's declined. I'm almost 100% sure they've offered him again and he's going this time because of it. It'd also line up as GSL Season 3 is scheduled to start in about 1.5-2 months. why are the seasons so stetched out ive never understood im pretty sure kim was married for less time then it takes for a GSL season to finish | ||
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Sleed
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I never thought he would keep playing for another year! | ||
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PresenceSc2
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On April 20 2012 05:59 0kz wrote: yes this is huge but the answer to your spoiler is NO, stop using that word, -_- BONJWA BONJWA BONJWA | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On April 20 2012 13:01 bokchoi wrote: I think Stephano feels a bit threatened by NaNIwa's success and rising fame. I do think Stephano likes being the foreigner hope and seeing Naniwa do so well makes Stephano want to do well in GSL as well :O You are correct. I don't know much about the guy but I am fairly certain that Naniwa's success played a large part in his decision. | ||
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PeZuY
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sQuidd
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On April 20 2012 13:01 bokchoi wrote: I think Stephano feels a bit threatened by NaNIwa's success and rising fame. I do think Stephano likes being the foreigner hope and seeing Naniwa do so well makes Stephano want to do well in GSL as well :O i realy wonder why you peaple think he cares the least about naniwa. he seems more like a person who just does what he likes and has zero concerns about other players, his image and whatever. hes just playing and having a good time. i also dont understand why naniwas succes is threatening him... so, i highly doubt his decision has anything to do with naniwa. anyway, its great news that he will continue Sc2. | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
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On April 20 2012 07:33 MonkSEA wrote: With that being said, I don't think his going to succeed too far in the GSL based on what Koreans have said. He is able to take games and potentially sets, but as most people have stated, once they get used to his play style he'll drop out like he did in the Cup. Now you can say 'oh but he was xx GM in korea' yeah that's cool and all, except for the sole factor that GM means nothing. Everyone knows Stephano is good his mechanics and responses are extremely tight and spot on, but I don't think his style of play will allow him to progress in the GSL as his opponents have an ample amount of time to study Stephano, and as most pro's have said already(which I keep having to repeat since it is so important) once you figure out Stephano's play style his not as big of a threat as if you didn't have any research on him. Once a player can dissect Stephano's play style, and abuse the weakness of Stephano then he'll just drop. Most people in the GSL are on a pro team with a coach who will help analyse players for them and point out weakness in their play, and the weaknesses the player has against the opponent. This is just plain wrong. Sure, koreans will adapt to Stephano's playstyle. But why do you think that only koreans are able to adapt while Stephano won't win a game anymore ? He can adapt as well. He has shown it plenty of times in the past. He showed new builds and improved his old ones. Why is stephano's style a style that "just has to be figured out and then it is useless" while other styles are "standard/xommon" and will always work? Don't underestimate Stephano. If one of his strategies stopped working in the future, he will practice and master another one. He can do that because he has the required skills for it. | ||
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Rossen
Denmark177 Posts
ty.Gl to Stephano! (Anyone know what he was/will study?) | ||
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Morphs
Netherlands645 Posts
On April 20 2012 16:54 Rossen wrote: srsly, calm down guys. You should be awaiting HuK's and Jinro's return to glory. As much as I'd like to see Jinro return, when was the last time he made an impressive appearance? He seems almost vanished. I'd say Stephano is one of the best candidates for Code S, I'm glad he took another year off. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 20 2012 13:11 Forikorder wrote: why are the seasons so stetched out ive never understood im pretty sure kim was married for less time then it takes for a GSL season to finish It's more exciting when a season is longer then 3-4 weeks. BW for example OSL/MSL were more exciting then (imo) GSL because it was a 2-3 times a year and lasted months. So the suspense would really hit in "omg just 2 weeks until flash vs jaedong!" (might have been a week after semi finals I can't remember ). It was so much more exciting, with GSL when it was almost every month was like "Yeah! xx player won now wonder who will win next one!". It just went to fast.I personally like it more ^_^. | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
On April 20 2012 16:49 MapleLeafSirup wrote: This is just plain wrong. Sure, koreans will adapt to Stephano's playstyle. But why do you think that only koreans are able to adapt while Stephano won't win a game anymore ? He can adapt as well. He has shown it plenty of times in the past. He showed new builds and improved his old ones. Why is stephano's style a style that "just has to be figured out and then it is useless" while other styles are "standard/xommon" and will always work? Don't underestimate Stephano. If one of his strategies stopped working in the future, he will practice and master another one. He can do that because he has the required skills for it. Exactly. People used to think Stephano's ling/infestor style was gimmicky and would fall off the wayside once it was figured out. But guess what? It has actually become the staple go-to strategy in ZvT. His ZvP... what's so exploitable about that? He does relatively standard 3 hatch play. His strengths are his game sense and in-game decision making. He's a damn solid player. He wont drop off from the scene anytime soon unless he chooses to himself. | ||
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Tobberoth
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Stephano is such a boss, really happy that we can enjoy his play for a whole nother year! | ||
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Tobberoth
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On April 20 2012 16:54 Rossen wrote: ...ok ... good for him, good for the scene, but he wont get very far code S ... RO8 tops... srsly, calm down guys. You should be awaiting HuK's and Jinro's return to glory. Stephano is great vs forigners but only good vs koreans...so calm down. ty.Gl to Stephano! (Anyone know what he was/will study?) You gotta be joking. Jinro got to RO4 because he was the first terran to properly use macro on a high level... he doesn't stand a chance against top koreans today. Huk hasn't impressed me in quite a long time. Nowadays, It's ALL about Stephano and Naniwa, both could seriously take Code S in a semi-lucky run. | ||
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On April 20 2012 17:04 ApocAlypsE007 wrote: Naniwa's influence? I hope this talent bomb of a player will live up to his massive potential in Korea. I don't think it's because of Naniwa he's doing this but I am excited we might actually get our show match eventually now. | ||
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Heweree
United Kingdom497 Posts
On April 20 2012 18:12 bgx wrote: i can quote myself saying i dont buy that "1year SC and then go study" shit, it was just mega-tease No it wasn't, it was real. | ||
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Zergmeister
Denmark56 Posts
On April 20 2012 16:54 Rossen wrote: ...ok ... good for him, good for the scene, but he wont get very far code S ... RO8 tops... srsly, calm down guys. You should be awaiting HuK's and Jinro's return to glory. Stephano is great vs forigners but only good vs koreans...so calm down. ty.Gl to Stephano! (Anyone know what he was/will study?) So much fail... are you completely ignorant of the pro scene? Please don't shame Denmark any further... | ||
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firehand101
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it is! good job stephano you made the right choice! | ||
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On April 20 2012 18:26 nam nam wrote: I don't think it's because of Naniwa he's doing this but I am excited we might actually get our show match eventually now. Well, we can't know that... Maybe he saw Naniwa advancing to the Ro8 and thought "If he can do that, i can do better". Anyways, it's all just speculation, i'm just happy that stephano stays a while longer and will continue to inspire foreigners to get better. + Show Spoiler + Still... i'm hoping for Stephano Code S Champion :p | ||
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Canada1165 Posts
On April 20 2012 13:01 bokchoi wrote: I think Stephano feels a bit threatened by NaNIwa's success and rising fame. I do think Stephano likes being the foreigner hope and seeing Naniwa do so well makes Stephano want to do well in GSL as well :O yeah, Stephano is just a foreign tourny hero at the moment | ||
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YaShock
Hungary119 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:54 1Eris1 wrote: Theres a fanclub for this. Seriously, why do I have to see a new thread in sc2 general every time stephano does something? Firstly, you don't HAVE TO see new thread, secondly it is in separate thread, because it's big news | ||
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Opera
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I was so sad thinking the best foreigner would stop soon. Can't wait to see him tear some protoss down in Code S ! | ||
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Emix_Squall
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On April 20 2012 14:16 Hall0wed wrote: You are correct. I don't know much about the guy but I am fairly certain that Naniwa's success played a large part in his decision. I don't think naniwa's performances had anything to do with his decision. It would just make sense that he wants to compete with the very best exclusively considering he is already THE best in Europe, and performs quite well every time he faces code S quality Korean players in Lan events. At this point it only makes sense that if he extends his career, he goes to play in Korea. | ||
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France705 Posts
On April 20 2012 20:01 YaShock wrote: Firstly, you don't HAVE TO see new thread, secondly it is in separate thread, because it's big news Haters will hate ... It's obviously a huge news for the whole foreign scene and deserves an article. | ||
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solidONE
United States160 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:00 SupLilSon wrote: The REAL foreigner hope. Who is NaNiwa again? well aside from him being a + Show Spoiler + code S ro8 enough about that though, i'm really glad stephano is still playing. at first i didn't really like him but he's a very talented player that can help develop zerg and show some incredible games. | ||
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CptCutter
United Kingdom370 Posts
On April 20 2012 05:51 djfoxmccloud wrote: Let's talk about it in the fan club, as it was posted there first. i would never have noticed it if it was posted in the fan club. whats wrong with having an actual thread for this? i think this is great news! although i always want terrans to win, i love stephano ^.^ gogo gsl #1! | ||
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algue
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On April 20 2012 22:31 Pandemona wrote: in 1.5months or for 1.5months... in 1.5 months | ||
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Sweden276 Posts
On April 20 2012 21:47 CptCutter wrote: i would never have noticed it if it was posted in the fan club. whats wrong with having an actual thread for this? i think this is great news! although i always want terrans to win, i love stephano ^.^ gogo gsl #1! You're a brave man, talking back to the forum police like that! :O I'd say the fact that this thread is now at 19 pages is proof enough that this wasn't merely a fan club issue. | ||
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Romania362 Posts
On April 20 2012 22:44 helvete wrote: You're a brave man, talking back to the forum police like that! :O I'd say the fact that this thread is now at 19 pages is proof enough that this wasn't merely a fan club issue. Yeah. The fanclub guys need to understand that not all the users on teamliquid check Stephano's fanclub on a daily basis and/or his twitter. The proof are the 19 pages. | ||
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On April 20 2012 05:56 Amokoma wrote: Holy crap! This is huge! Foreigner + Show Spoiler + bonjwa Is he the new Zerg + Show Spoiler + bonjwa | ||
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RehnFreemark
Italy144 Posts
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Jedclark
United Kingdom903 Posts
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Bearhammer
United States49 Posts
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
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Swiv
Germany3674 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On April 21 2012 00:32 BaconofWar wrote: Yay Stephano!!!!!!! Now we can expect the 1st (or 2nd if Nani kicks ass) foreigner GSL champion!!!!!! Posts like this make me so sad. Sigh. No we can't expect that. Nothing is set in stone yet, there are many players in the GSL who have more skill than Stephano. If he does it: ok. But it's really annoying to already write something like this. Let's just wait and see how he does. | ||
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Khonsou
Dominican Republic275 Posts
Did something specific happen that helped you figure things out or is it something you were considering for a long time? I was considering it since IPL ended. I announced there that my decision would depend on my results, but I had to evaluate if TOP6 was a performance or a failure... which I did during my vacation. And here it is: I’m STAYING. You are planning to go to USA and Korea, was traveling for eSport an important factor in your decision? It’s always a pleasure to travel this much round the world, but it didn’t really influence my choice, only my capacity to evolve and continue performing did. Why go back to Korea after being a little disappointed by the end of your stay last time? I think I didn’t put the necessary efforts to adapt during my first stay in Korea. This time, I’ll have to do it, considering that training in EU/USA isn’t enough to progress like I want to anymore. Would you like to enter GSL ? If my schedule premits it, I’ll do it, but once again, it’s not my main objective. It’s been less than a year that you choose eSport as a full-time job, how would you summarize this experience and what would be the more memorable moments? I think it’s pretty positive overall. Cleary there’s been errors and disappointments, but not enough to overshadow the successes! The best moment will always be, I think, my first major winning: IPL3. A message to your fans and the community ? I hope my decision to continue pleases you, and, sorry if you don’t like part of my personality but you’ll have to get used to it. Don’t think I don’t care about negative comments I get though, I do feel sorry that a big part of the [French] community don’t really like me although I’m the one best representing our country right now. | ||
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Firereaver
India1701 Posts
Stephano for foreigner-bonjwa-baller status inc.... Beware Korea! | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On April 21 2012 00:21 RehnFreemark wrote: Nice! A warm VAFFANCULO from Italy, Stephano! I'm not sure that insulting in other langages will keep you from getting banned | ||
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finkelboy
Italy372 Posts
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
On April 21 2012 00:49 Firereaver wrote: THIS IS HUUUGE!!! Stephano for foreigner-bonjwa-baller status inc.... Beware Korea! Overhype much? | ||
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zomgE
498 Posts
On April 21 2012 00:47 Serinox wrote: Posts like this make me so sad. Sigh. No we can't expect that. Nothing is set in stone yet, there are many players in the GSL who have more skill than Stephano. If he does it: ok. But it's really annoying to already write something like this. Let's just wait and see how he does. why exactly is it so annoying | ||
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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Negius
Netherlands290 Posts
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Phays
Sweden162 Posts
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give.ViviD
Sweden235 Posts
yaaay stephano. | ||
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Khonsou
Dominican Republic275 Posts
On April 21 2012 01:19 give.ViviD wrote: I dont know how anyone can believe that he's going to quit while he's still winning tournaments, if something is going great you don't quit because you've planned it, you keep at it until it doesn't work any longer. He'll keep taking these breaks until it's no longer economically possible to be a pro gamer, most likely. yaaay stephano. Depends, medical studies in France are crazy and long enough to start them early. | ||
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
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Jedclark
United Kingdom903 Posts
On April 21 2012 01:19 give.ViviD wrote: I dont know how anyone can believe that he's going to quit while he's still winning tournaments, if something is going great you don't quit because you've planned it, you keep at it until it doesn't work any longer. He'll keep taking these breaks until it's no longer economically possible to be a pro gamer, most likely. yaaay stephano. While this is a valid argument, not everyone wants to play games for all of their life. I doubt anyone does. To keep winning the substantial amounts that he does, the dedication and commitment has to be there. That's hard to fake, and to sustain over a long period of time. | ||
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InfusedTT.DaZe
Romania693 Posts
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On April 21 2012 01:32 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote: glad to hear, for some reason i think that after all this time he will extend his break again : ) Well he shoould be carefull he cant do this to long. There is many examples of sport atlethes ending school and then wake up 15 yars l8r with nothing to show. Education is very important especially in Esports. 1 year more is fine | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
On April 21 2012 01:32 Jedclark wrote: While this is a valid argument, not everyone wants to play games for all of their life. I doubt anyone does. To keep winning the substantial amounts that he does, the dedication and commitment has to be there. That's hard to fake, and to sustain over a long period of time. lol, you don't think that amazing feeling when winning a tournament is enough to keep someone going? Where else in life do you get that kind of satisfaction except in competition? Most people don't get to feel that ever, some people, like Stephano get to experience it because they're great at something, why the hell would they ever let that go? | ||
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ShakkaFL
Norway647 Posts
On April 21 2012 00:49 Firereaver wrote: THIS IS HUUUGE!!! Stephano for foreigner-bonjwa-baller status inc.... Beware Korea! you dont watch the gsl much do you? | ||
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Ventil
Sweden414 Posts
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ItsPondo
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
Because this overhyping of players is just wrong, not funny and stupid. It hasn't helped us with Kas, Happy and Nerchio and won't help us with Stephano. Yes, he's is good, but we don't need to state things like "He WILL win a GSL, there just no other possibility!!!1einself!!" | ||
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
On April 21 2012 02:06 Serinox wrote: Because this overhyping of players is just wrong, not funny and stupid. It hasn't helped us with Kas, Happy and Nerchio and won't help us with Stephano. Yes, he's is good, but we don't need to state things like "He WILL win a GSL, there just no other possibility!!!1einself!!" Those guys are nowhere near Stephano's level... | ||
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Ziktomini
United Kingdom377 Posts
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On April 21 2012 02:06 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Those guys are nowhere near Stephano's level... Yet when they we're showing very sick games, they were hyped by the community, that they will take a GSL Code S championship for sure if they go to Korea. | ||
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Resi
England10 Posts
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
On April 21 2012 02:09 Serinox wrote: Yet when they we're showing very sick games, they were hyped by the community, that they will take a GSL Code S championship for sure if they go to Korea. Nothing wrong with a bit of hype. Stephano never reads this stuff also. | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1358 Posts
its just common in every sports... | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On April 21 2012 02:06 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Those guys are nowhere near Stephano's level... That wasn't his point and quite frankly a weak argument. All those players had periods where they dominated the foreign scene and people were hyping them up like crazy. They beat Koreans as well in different tournaments. And at the time they were "stephano level" relative to their competition in NA and EU. Maybe you can claim Stephano have already proved himself to be gsl code s ready but some people actually think we should wait until he's actually won or performed well in a tournament where he goes up more than a few top level players along the way (Koreans that is) There's no doubt he can beat players of Polts calibre but that doesn't mean he'll be able to do it week after week against a wide range of quality players of different races. | ||
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
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latan
740 Posts
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
But so what? So what if people are excited at the possibility of seeing him play in Korea? So what if they predict him to do better than what you expect? So what if people hype him? Why do you take offense at other peoples excitement? | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On April 21 2012 02:25 b0rt_ wrote: For every 1 random person who says 'Stephano gogo he will win GSL OMG' there are 5 people who flame him. Even in a thread dedicated for cheering for another year of Mr French Zerg. I love Stephano and want him to do well. But saying he will win a GSL is stupid. I would argue and say DRG is better than Stephano (would rank them both in top 4 zergs worldwide together with Leenock and Nestea). But still DRG lost r32. In GSL anything can happen, because everyone in Code S are so solid and good. The chance of him making the finals are slim (just like any other player who plays there). There is a difference on stating "I hope he win" and "He will win". So please chill with the overhype and hope he does well. As long as he is satisfied with his performance we can be happy as fans. I hope he gets to show what he's capable of doing with the GSL format compared to other formats. And I hope we get to see well thought out builds. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On April 21 2012 02:06 Serinox wrote: Because this overhyping of players is just wrong, not funny and stupid. It hasn't helped us with Kas, Happy and Nerchio and won't help us with Stephano. Yes, he's is good, but we don't need to state things like "He WILL win a GSL, there just no other possibility!!!1einself!!" Obviously he wasn't being serious and is just expressing his excitement? Someone had a bad day | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 21 2012 02:17 nam nam wrote: That wasn't his point and quite frankly a weak argument. All those players had periods where they dominated the foreign scene and people were hyping them up like crazy. They beat Koreans as well in different tournaments. And at the time they were "stephano level" relative to their competition in NA and EU. Maybe you can claim Stephano have already proved himself to be gsl code s ready but some people actually think we should wait until he's actually won or performed well in a tournament where he goes up more than a few top level players along the way (Koreans that is) There's no doubt he can beat players of Polts calibre but that doesn't mean he'll be able to do it week after week against a wide range of quality players of different races. Hype is what keeps this scene going. Without hype, who's going to tune in to see who wins what? Stephano draws in 15-18k viewers because of his hype train. IdrA draws in the same with his personality. That's what keeps this scene going. Great play by itself doesn't sell tickets. | ||
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Kahlgar
411 Posts
Not sure why posters itt are bothered by fanboys, gl in your life trying to point out why every single person you disagree with is wrong. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26343 Posts
On April 21 2012 02:51 Kahlgar wrote: That was expected but still a great news. Not sure why posters itt are bothered by fanboys, gl in your life trying to point out why every single person you disagree with is wrong. In this thread, doesn't bother me, what does bother me are his fucking fanboys coming into every other unrelated thread and spamming nonsense. Gl Stephano, hope he gets/takes a GSL seed, would be interested to see how that goes | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
"Do you want to play a GSL this time ? If my schedule allows me to, yes. But again, this is not my main goal" | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On April 21 2012 04:51 Micket wrote: He is capable of doing really well in Code S, but lets not get our hopes up. I think a telling statistic was one I saw in IPL4, which said Stephano's win rate against Koreans (which would have included ones like Real, Artist, Phoenix) was less than 50%. I for one was quite shocked by this, especially when players like Nestea and MMA (who both got knocked out easily out of Ro32 Code S) were holding >60% win rates vs Koreans. It was only for the month of March or 2012, but not his all carrier. | ||
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Demonaz
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Stephano is going to really compete with the best in code S, scary to think how good he will get playing koreans all the time :D | ||
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plouer
France32 Posts
On April 21 2012 04:51 Micket wrote: He is capable of doing really well in Code S, but lets not get our hopes up. I think a telling statistic was one I saw in IPL4, which said Stephano's win rate against Koreans (which would have included ones like Real, Artist, Phoenix) was less than 50%. I for one was quite shocked by this, especially when players like Nestea and MMA (who both got knocked out easily out of Ro32 Code S) were holding >60% win rates vs Koreans. yes but virus was in the RO16 with less than 50% win in GSL and this stat is true if you count online tournament, on lan he lost to only a few player. | ||
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Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
Another reason to love to hate Stephano. Defo the new Idra with the added bonus that he's French. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 21 2012 04:51 Micket wrote: He is capable of doing really well in Code S, but lets not get our hopes up. I think a telling statistic was one I saw in IPL4, which said Stephano's win rate against Koreans (which would have included ones like Real, Artist, Phoenix) was less than 50%. I for one was quite shocked by this, especially when players like Nestea and MMA (who both got knocked out easily out of Ro32 Code S) were holding >60% win rates vs Koreans. Hero's vs. Korean rate is 50%. Naniwa's is 41%. They're both in the GSL Ro8, and finished top of their Ro16 groups. | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On April 21 2012 05:40 Faust852 wrote: It was only for the month of March or 2012, but not his all carrier. I checked TLPD for his all time results against Koreans,  Stephano is :31-39 against Terran (44.28%) + Show Spoiler + 17-7 against Zerg (70,83%) + Show Spoiler + 11-10 against Protoss (52,38%) + Show Spoiler + 59-56 overall (51,30%) edit : Don't know how to fix TLPD-ize for MKP, Virus and ReaL | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On April 21 2012 06:01 Dapper_Cad wrote: "Great news for you guys" Another reason to love to hate Stephano. Defo the new Idra with the added bonus that he's French. Yeah I found that weird too lol. | ||
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Dundron2000
Sweden1140 Posts
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onPHYRE
Bulgaria923 Posts
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Heouf
Netherlands787 Posts
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SiroKO
France721 Posts
He is just assuming that the people who follow him on twitter are Starcraft 2 fans... | ||
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Boof
Canada77 Posts
On April 21 2012 06:01 Dapper_Cad wrote: "Great news for you guys" Another reason to love to hate Stephano. Defo the new Idra with the added bonus that he's French. lol So kind of him to allow us to see him play a video game and rake in tons of fame and money in the process. What a saint. | ||
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
On April 21 2012 07:32 Boof wrote: lol So kind of him to allow us to see him play a video game and rake in tons of fame and money in the process. What a saint. Yeah, seriously. Is he trying to be extremely self centered and self important there or what? Hopefully it's just a translation thing... | ||
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hyperdemented
Austria372 Posts
he's talking to his twitter followers, which he probably assumes are his fans (i know, shocking right?) Seeing that pretty much every one of his fans cheered for him to continue playing, why wouldnt this decision be great news for them? | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
"Haters gonna hate" | ||
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TomoeMami
Japan48 Posts
do not let Nani take all | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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