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[Interview] 2012 GSTL Season 1 Finals - Page 5

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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 08 2012 07:52 GMT
#81
Congratz Prime.

The rightful winners.
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
April 08 2012 07:54 GMT
#82
On April 08 2012 16:52 Disengaged wrote:
Congratz Prime.

The rightful winners.


asterisks
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
April 08 2012 07:56 GMT
#83
MKP's interview which every1 seems to be ignoring.

Your game against Parting resulted in a regame verdict because of a disconnect

In the game in question, I was ahead until the midgame but because of carelessness, I was about to be overtaken. As I was fighting my heart out trying to come back, the disconnect occurred.


It seems MKP admits he was about to lose. just my two-cents into the discussion.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
April 08 2012 08:05 GMT
#84
On April 08 2012 15:36 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:32 DidYuhim wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:23 storywriter wrote:
sorry guys, slight mistranslation
"If fans of Startale or the general public think that Parting deserved a win, I will resign as team Prime’s coach" should have been "If Startale or the fans think that Parting deserved a win, I will resign as team Prime’s coach". Main difference is that Gerrard also addresses the team Startale. Fixed in OP

Check how it sounds.
"If loser's team will complain I will resign". It just says "I will not resign, but if they will complain it will make them look bullies".

Nice move, buddy. I hope you will resign.

Yeah, honestly, he won't resign, because there is no way ST will press the issue (it will make them look like sore tools, they are better off taking this defeat with an asterisk), and there's no way to prove that enough fans will complain anyways even if they do. ST doesn't have any super-popular players after all, nobody like MMA/DRG/MKP on their team, so not many fans.


It's sad because if this had happened to someone like Slayers or MVP, tons more people would have their pitchforks out demanding answers from GOM.
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carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
April 08 2012 08:05 GMT
#85
If Startale or the fans think that Parting deserved a win, I will resign as team Prime’s coach.


A little bit extreme there!

I do believe Parting deserved the win (specially because of the 8 high templars he had which alone with storm would have killed easily anything that came out of the barracks.
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Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
April 08 2012 08:10 GMT
#86
No reason for Prime's coach to resign regardless of what anyone thinks, you fight for your player no matter how much of a lost cause it is. GOM refs/blizzard game designers could use some resignations though.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
April 08 2012 08:10 GMT
#87
Just when I thought you could'n do worse that GSL finals, gom finds a way-_-

Is there any progamer that said MKP still had a chance? Cause I tried to find but couldn't.

Even mkp says it
I was about to be overtaken.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 08 2012 08:17 GMT
#88
Looks like coach is staying in Vegas. Probably to try out as a magician judging by what he's wearing and magic he worked on judges minds.
MC for president
gladsheim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia676 Posts
April 08 2012 08:18 GMT
#89
whos to say prime wouldnt have been able to beat parting/ST had he been given the win?
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
April 08 2012 08:19 GMT
#90
On April 08 2012 17:18 gladsheim wrote:
whos to say prime wouldnt have been able to beat parting/ST had he been given the win?


No one, but because of the judges, now we'll never know.
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SoulReaver306
Profile Joined April 2012
Australia210 Posts
April 08 2012 08:19 GMT
#91
On April 08 2012 17:10 pPingu wrote:
Just when I thought you could'n do worse that GSL finals, gom finds a way-_-

Is there any progamer that said MKP still had a chance? Cause I tried to find but couldn't.

Even mkp says it
Show nested quote +
I was about to be overtaken.


He says in this interview that he had no doubt he could bring it back in his favor.
http://www.esfiworld.com/video/marinekings-post-gstl-championship-interview
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
April 08 2012 08:22 GMT
#92
Congrats Prime and Especially MKP! I think this victory is really important for every progamer because this boost up their moral and fighting spirit. About the issue on disconnection, neither party was at fault and i believe that comebacks do happen so the re-game was really the right choice.
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 08 2012 08:23 GMT
#93
On April 08 2012 15:43 duracell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:34 slicknav wrote:
People don't understand that an unfavorable position is not the same as an overwhelming victory. Parting was at an advantage, but that advantage wasn't enough to assume an automatic win.


Just a different mindset, but you're just punishing different players.

If two players are equal (50/50 to win before the match begins), and one player gained a 25% advantage and is now 75% to win at that point in the game, and it crashes and a regame is announced, it just robbed him of his 25% equity advantage because he is now 50% again.

If you don't regame and award it to the guy with the 75% advantage, then the other guy is robbed of his 25% equity to win. It's not really fair either way, just takes equity from different people.

It's hard to judge it, which is why experts are the ones deciding, but it should always try to reduce the least amount of unfair equity. I.e. if two players are 50-50, and one guy has a 80% chance to win at that point, and the other guy had 20%, then the 80% chance guy should be awarded a win even if it isn't 100% sure because doing so only robs the other player of 20% of "game equity" while regaming would rob the leading player by 30% "game equity".

lolz how much "game equity" is lost by having to play again on same map your losing opponet chose in the first place? How much showing him your strats on his map so he can adjust?

It's stupid to talk of equity all that matters is who's winning when game ends or else why do we have judges? Just regame every drop. They have judges because a loss tuned into a win is unfair just like we saw.
MC for president
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
April 08 2012 08:26 GMT
#94
Thanks for translations! So happy prime won and Mkp played so well! Hope Gerard doesn't resign though, that would suck.
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MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
April 08 2012 08:27 GMT
#95
On April 08 2012 17:19 SoulReaver306 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 17:10 pPingu wrote:
Just when I thought you could'n do worse that GSL finals, gom finds a way-_-

Is there any progamer that said MKP still had a chance? Cause I tried to find but couldn't.

Even mkp says it
I was about to be overtaken.


He says in this interview that he had no doubt he could bring it back in his favor.
http://www.esfiworld.com/video/marinekings-post-gstl-championship-interview


Lol we might need him to show us how to micro 3 marauders to win against 16 zealots.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
April 08 2012 08:31 GMT
#96
I dont like how he pulls the sympathy card by sying he'll resign. I saw what happened these guys were very heated it wasnt oh well lets go figure this out Now hes immune to any real criticism and sweeps this under the rug because who actually wants someone important to prime and talented as he is to resign
epicdemic
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands137 Posts
April 08 2012 08:37 GMT
#97
There was just no way MKP could have won. Parting was on top of MKP's production, had the ability to warp in units in his main base and had the economy to support it, with no way for MKP to do anything about it.

If MKP had any pride he would have gg'd when the disconnect happened.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
April 08 2012 08:38 GMT
#98
On April 08 2012 17:27 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 17:19 SoulReaver306 wrote:
On April 08 2012 17:10 pPingu wrote:
Just when I thought you could'n do worse that GSL finals, gom finds a way-_-

Is there any progamer that said MKP still had a chance? Cause I tried to find but couldn't.

Even mkp says it
I was about to be overtaken.


He says in this interview that he had no doubt he could bring it back in his favor.
http://www.esfiworld.com/video/marinekings-post-gstl-championship-interview


Lol we might need him to show us how to micro 3 marauders to win against 16 zealots.


he had units from 12 raxes about to pop, 9 if the 3 at his natural died before they came out.
then it's a decent bio force vs zealots without any AOE

SO HARD
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
April 08 2012 08:39 GMT
#99
"MKP could have come back!"

MKP fans actually believe that 3 marauders and 6 vikings can kill 16 zealots and 6 stalkers.

Let that soak in.
Armaz
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia29 Posts
April 08 2012 08:44 GMT
#100
If Startale or the fans think that Parting deserved a win, I will resign as team Prime’s coach.

Ok, bye.
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