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[IPL4] Open Bracket Released - Page 10

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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 14:28:37
April 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#181
Well...uh..."stacked" doesn't quite do this justice, does it?
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#182
bracket 1: PartinG
bracket 2: Curious
bracket 3: Creator
bracket 4: TaeJa
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
April 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#183
Id have to say bracket 4 looks the easiest... while not being easy at all
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
SyntechiTV
Profile Joined March 2012
67 Posts
April 04 2012 14:33 GMT
#184
Top 8.

Ghost King Prime, RumCake(i had Vile hawk and Sase here first but i love rum and cake so i said cant go wrong with that xD), MVP, demuslim, Violet, Taeja , Jiakji, Parting/leenock

GKP is really catching fire and i have made respect for the dude, Taeja will be looking to impress for TL. MVP is well.. MVP.


Violet is my man for living in TEXAS.

Good luck to all of em though.
Ripebananaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 14:36:00
April 04 2012 14:34 GMT
#185
Idra and Incontrol not going?

edit:
Nevermind..
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 14:36:17
April 04 2012 14:36 GMT
#186
On April 04 2012 23:34 Ripebananaa wrote:
Idra and Incontrol not going?


IdrA is in pools, Incontrol not there afaik
OP updated with correct brackets - as always, Liquipedia is most up to date.
Still hate the text scaling though.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
April 04 2012 14:36 GMT
#187
On April 04 2012 23:34 Ripebananaa wrote:
Idra and Incontrol not going?


IdrA is seeded into pool play, and incontrol is at PAX East with the rest of the SotG guys.
shur
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany35 Posts
April 04 2012 14:37 GMT
#188
On April 04 2012 22:26 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 22:14 Bumblebee wrote:
On April 04 2012 22:09 Xoronius wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:55 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't really have a refined opinion on team kills in such brackets. It's sort of just tough luck, but I wonder if there can't be done something to prevent it at least for a while or not "that many". If you look over the bracket, we - Team Liquid - kill eachother very early all over the bracket. It's just not worthwhile business for us to send so many players to such events if they're going to eliminate eachother that early. I'm not saying we can prevent teamkills all the way until the bracket finals - or we almost can, but I don't expect it. I'm just simply thinking if there isn't a fair way to draft so that we won't have 2-3 teamkills in the third round?

What are your opinions out there? Do you think it'd be fair to put what team people are on into such an equation?


I think the seeding should be done without considering, that Teamkills could happen, because avoiding Teamkills could lead into two stronger players running into eachother. Take Taeja as an example, he should be one of the stronger guys in the open bracket. If the two options would be him running into Nony or him running into Jjakji for example, I would always prefer the first option. It would maybe be unfortunate for Liquid, but in the end, it is better for Taeja and Jjakji, who both are good contenders for the pool play. It could be even worse, if thrid parties get a disadvantage. I am sure, you would´nt be pleased, if one of your players has to face PartinG in the first round, so that an early Empire or Complexity Teamkill can be avoided.

I definitely agree, but let's say you would have two matches of equal skill. Let's go with an example (this is now what is in this bracket, but it's the idea I'm going for)

HerO vs X
PuMa vs Y

If PuMa currently run into HuK in the third round and HerO run into Ret. Would you think it waas fair if these matches were swapped around, so it was that HerO would meet HuK insteaad of Ret and PuMa would meet Ret instead of HuK?


I think, in thise case, you could argue, that it is better to swap the opponents. But than you run into the problem, that noone really knows, what the definiton of "equal skill" is. If you take the last MLG open bracket for example. Are Stephano and Polt equally skilled? Polt and Sheth? Stephano and Sheth? Stephano, Polt, Sheth and KawaiiRice (who came out on top of that bracket)? Who can say, that two guys would be equally skilled? And where is the border, between "equal" and "worse/better"? (And why are there still american flags on the MLG-LP-Page, April first is long gone?) I think, there is no real solution for this problem. MU´s are another factor. In the example you gave, if teamkills are allowed, Puma and HerO are the favorites, if you swap them, HuK and Ret would have the better chance.


I think the MLG open bracket example hits the nail on the head.
Also what would be the case if one team has a great majority of participants? Lets say more than double the players from the follow up team. Wouldnt it be unfair if one team has the possibility (through match swapping) to get more players further into the tournament just because they have more participating (not to discuss the connection to the possible case that they are bigger, have more sponsors, more money, and so on...)? One could argue that having more players of their own team participating is an advantage itself and teamkills on the one side are a 100% teammember-advance on the other.
SF.Saiyan
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands4 Posts
April 04 2012 14:43 GMT
#189
That Open Bracket is stacked, even better than MLG Providence.
Too bad IPL doesn't have amazing casters such as Tastosis, Day9/DJWheat/Dignitas.Apollo etc.
Streams are free, except for 720p and above.
QPAD-MK80 Keyboard / Razer Deathadder / Roccat Apuri Mouse Bungee / Puretrak Talent Mousepad MMA / / DongRaeGu / VioLeT / MC / NaNiwa
striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
April 04 2012 14:43 GMT
#190
The open bracket is insane, it could have been broadcasted as a big tournament in itself!
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
April 04 2012 14:48 GMT
#191
Oh my god I can't wait!!
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3834 Posts
April 04 2012 14:53 GMT
#192
On April 04 2012 18:16 RuMCaKe wrote:
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On April 04 2012 18:13 yawnoC wrote:
This bracket looks so crazy o_O
I kind of want to go threw it and predict it but I would probably fail miserably.

On April 04 2012 18:10 RuMCaKe wrote:
I am so confused, this bracket says I play Machine or Hawk r2 winners:
http://challonge.com/ipl4open

While this one says I play Hawk or Hashe
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_4/Open_Bracket

Either way, WR2 I could meet some really cool guys should be fun.

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/facepalm
YOU CAN DO IT RUMCAKE! After you beat Machine or Hawk you then will stomp Select or Sase



With you cheering me on anything is possible!

RUMCAKE FIGHTING
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
April 04 2012 15:01 GMT
#193
Good news is, I get to play Killer. Bad news is, I have to play Killer. T_T
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 15:03:42
April 04 2012 15:03 GMT
#194
Interesting that startale enters their top dogs while prime saves mkp

@Dalguno

Just prepare for his all in lololol
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 04 2012 15:06 GMT
#195
On April 05 2012 00:03 TyrionSC2 wrote:
Interesting that startale enters their top dogs while prime saves mkp

@Dalguno

Just prepare for his all in lololol


MKP and Bomber are in the pools
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 04 2012 15:06 GMT
#196
Are Liquid players just not allowed through?? WHAT IS THIS???
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
April 04 2012 15:07 GMT
#197
The only thing I don't like about these brackets is that they weren't randomized. They were seeded at IPL's discretion which really isn't very appealing to me.

On April 05 2012 00:03 TyrionSC2 wrote:
Interesting that startale enters their top dogs while prime saves mkp

@Dalguno

Just prepare for his all in lololol

MarineKingPrime is in Pool Play, Group B along with Stephano and White-Ra


Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 04 2012 15:10 GMT
#198
Look out Crank, im coming for ya!
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
KING CHARLIE :D
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States447 Posts
April 04 2012 15:11 GMT
#199
I am absolutely floored by the level of skill and dedication that is walking through the doors of the cosmopolitan. Every bracket is LADEN with koreans and world class foreigners alike. I am so happy that IPL is such an amazing company and tournament that they can bring us these games and i CAN'T WAIT for this weekend when i get to experience it all and soak it in! =D
NO TEAM WILL EVER BE AS GOOD AS TEAM LIQUID!
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
April 04 2012 15:13 GMT
#200
This open bracket is absolutely insane!?

I'm interested in seeing who the major upsetters are going to be

IPL Is awesome!
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