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On March 31 2012 13:42 Treemonkeys wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:41 Egyptian_Head wrote:On March 31 2012 13:38 Treemonkeys wrote:
Trying to get someone locked up in a cage because of some words they made appear on a screen seems incredibly cruel and wrong. Blame the police and the law then, not Jessica, victims don't determine the punishment and for good reason. I highly don't any jail time will result, that would be reserved for extreme cases I imagine. She knows the punishment and she's pursing it in that way, she is to blame too.
Pursuing a charge does not mean you want the maximum sentence. You want justice, what that entails is not for you to decide. If the courts go overboard you cannot be held responsible for that.
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On March 31 2012 13:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:41 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:soo a man walks into a house, abuses whoever was there, the fault lies on the resident for not locking the door? did i say that? no i didnt, SlayerS invited everyone in the world into there public chat and allwed them to say whatever they wanted to and then sued someone for doing jsut that its like inviteing someone into your house to beat your wife then calling the cops when he does what you ask him to it was a public chat with no rules, nor were any rules inforced yet the dude is gonna lose a large chunk of cash at the minumum for this are you fucking stupid? Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. People get called cunts and everything else on the internet constantly. I agree they should be punished in some way. You call someone a cunt here, you get banned, cool. You don't need to lock people in prison or take huge amounts of money from them though, that's insane. If you don't they'll just continue to do it. This is a great eye opener to the fag who decided to troll. I'm sure next time he will have a second thought before spamming his nonsense. One troll at a time until there are no more.
Uh, people have learned not to troll and be mean online without having to go to court. It would be better to ban him, or get is internet privilages revoked.
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On March 31 2012 13:46 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
Jessica is slowly but surely making me hate Slayers. Sorry Boxer but if you don't reign in your woman soon, a Slayers anti-fan I'll become.
you'll be over starcraft in 6 months... i hear Dota2 is coming out...
if Boxer married Satan, i'd be a fan, man is an institution. No Boxer no BW phonomenom ("esports") and then no SC2 boom in form you enjoy it today...
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On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:
are you fucking stupid?
Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished.
Now lets use some logic here. You're at a bar, you walk up to a random stranger and tell him to fuck himself and continue berating him. What is going to happen to you? You're going to get kicked out(and possibly an ass kicking). The police wont be involved, because quite frankly, that's just straight up silly. Ironically, Jessica has a way to remove people from her chat, similarly to kicking some one out. Strange how it works, right?
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On March 31 2012 13:46 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:45 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:42 Serinox wrote:On March 31 2012 13:40 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:soo a man walks into a house, abuses whoever was there, the fault lies on the resident for not locking the door? did i say that? no i didnt, SlayerS invited everyone in the world into there public chat and allwed them to say whatever they wanted to and then sued someone for doing jsut that its like inviteing someone into your house to beat your wife then calling the cops when he does what you ask him to it was a public chat with no rules, nor were any rules inforced yet the dude is gonna lose a large chunk of cash at the minumum for this are you fucking stupid? Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. well it would make me a bit sad i suppose, but if i didnt want strangers in my party i wouldnt ahve made it an open aprty now would i? I'll stay with your logic. If I invite strangers because I want a big party, they still wouldn't be allowed to do vandalism or stealing stuff etc. right they wouldnt be allowed because since its your party then you can set rules and choose to enforce them if you start a part in the middle of a park and let anyone who wants to come in come in then theres going to be some undesirables of course the scenario is completely different since if someone is standing right next to you in real life and yelling at you cant ignore him but if someone is in chat talking shit you can quite easily ignore him Whether you can ignore something or not doesn't make the act itself more or less punishable
yes it does, if i sit in a soundproof room and start screaming obscenities at the top of my lungs i wont ever get punished (unless im not allowed to be in said room) but if i got to a public place and start screaming obsceneites ill get in trouble
if i go to the same public place and whisper obscenities as quietly as i can i wont get punished (or very unlikely to get punished) its the same with the chat, he was yelling in public, and instead of just putting him in a sound proof room (ie banning him) or jsut "muting" him by not reading what hes writing she decided to sue him
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On March 31 2012 13:47 Egyptian_Head wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:42 Treemonkeys wrote:On March 31 2012 13:41 Egyptian_Head wrote:On March 31 2012 13:38 Treemonkeys wrote:
Trying to get someone locked up in a cage because of some words they made appear on a screen seems incredibly cruel and wrong. Blame the police and the law then, not Jessica, victims don't determine the punishment and for good reason. I highly don't any jail time will result, that would be reserved for extreme cases I imagine. She knows the punishment and she's pursing it in that way, she is to blame too. Pursuing a charge does not mean you want the maximum sentence. You want justice, what that entails is not for you to decide. If the courts go overboard you cannot be held responsible for that.
The world would be a terrible place if everyone vidictively looked for "Justice" over mere insults.
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On March 31 2012 13:46 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:44 jinorazi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:43 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:41 jinorazi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:40 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:soo a man walks into a house, abuses whoever was there, the fault lies on the resident for not locking the door? did i say that? no i didnt, SlayerS invited everyone in the world into there public chat and allwed them to say whatever they wanted to and then sued someone for doing jsut that its like inviteing someone into your house to beat your wife then calling the cops when he does what you ask him to it was a public chat with no rules, nor were any rules inforced yet the dude is gonna lose a large chunk of cash at the minumum for this are you fucking stupid? Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. well it would make me a bit sad i suppose, but if i didnt want strangers in my party i wouldnt ahve made it an open aprty now would i? you'll have bouncers so you can kick them out. in this case, bouncer was not there so they came in and did their shit, so the cops had to come. if there are bouncers, then its not an open party its a public party i had no idea clubs in the cities were private parties. sarcasm by the way so a hobo could wander into any club he wanted to? of course not, clubs are private parties that decide who they want to be allowed to enter, they have the right to refuse anyone entery because its a private party on private property
you talk as if there are no rules in stream chats, you think going in and BM/TROLL offensive crap and expect not to get banned?
i'm sorry but i get the feeling you're either extremely slow or trolling to make this topic/conversation go in circle.
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On March 31 2012 13:50 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:46 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:44 jinorazi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:43 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:41 jinorazi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:40 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:soo a man walks into a house, abuses whoever was there, the fault lies on the resident for not locking the door? did i say that? no i didnt, SlayerS invited everyone in the world into there public chat and allwed them to say whatever they wanted to and then sued someone for doing jsut that its like inviteing someone into your house to beat your wife then calling the cops when he does what you ask him to it was a public chat with no rules, nor were any rules inforced yet the dude is gonna lose a large chunk of cash at the minumum for this are you fucking stupid? Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. well it would make me a bit sad i suppose, but if i didnt want strangers in my party i wouldnt ahve made it an open aprty now would i? you'll have bouncers so you can kick them out. in this case, bouncer was not there so they came in and did their shit, so the cops had to come. if there are bouncers, then its not an open party its a public party i had no idea clubs in the cities were private parties. sarcasm by the way so a hobo could wander into any club he wanted to? of course not, clubs are private parties that decide who they want to be allowed to enter, they have the right to refuse anyone entery because its a private party on private property you talk as if there are no rules in stream chats, you think going in and BM/TROLL offensive crap and expect not to get banned?
EXACTLY if i break a rule of stream chat, i get banned, but if i dont get banned then i didnt break any rules
this guy never got banned, therefore he never broke any rules but still gets sued
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On March 31 2012 13:48 Orracle wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:
are you fucking stupid?
Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. Now lets use some logic here. You're at a bar, you walk up to a random stranger and tell him to fuck himself and continue berating him. What is going to happen to you? You're going to get kicked out(and possibly an ass kicking). The police wont be involved, because quite frankly, that's just straight up silly. Ironically, Jessica has a way to remove people from her chat, similarly to kicking some one out. Strange how it works, right?
You must've not read the part where they banned him multiple times.
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On March 31 2012 11:41 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 11:37 Chargelot wrote:On March 31 2012 11:33 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 11:23 jinorazi wrote:On March 31 2012 11:21 Zennith wrote:
I'm just baffled by how many people support this. Freedom of speech is so important, I don't understand how anyone can believe otherwise? freedom of speech is important. so should trolls doing everything they can to harm someone's reputation, finance and emotion be allowed with no consequences? intentional trolling with means to do damage, isn't freedom of speech. sometimes i get the feeling some of the Americans are so brainwashed with the whole freedom of speech, that every excrement that comes out in form of toughts from their brains is considered valid, and you don't actually have to think before you speak, because even if you are so bloody wrong, you have the right to be wrong. which is false. there was a discussion on TL similiar to this one, where guy from Scandinavia that lived on both continents analyzed the situation and said it fascinated him how in Europe kids are thought to be critical in thinking, while in the States everything is so emphasized on the individual, kids just grow up thinking every aspect of their individuality is so precious that they are actually rewarded for having a stance on something, no matter true or false. A TL user from Scandinavia. Sounds like a bloody expert to me. I think you could read over your own words, and perhaps learn about yourself from yourself. except i didn't make an argument in that post what so ever, except that i mocked the whole "freedom of speech" mentality that is going on for 30 pages or so. in fact, this is original quote that i replied to Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 11:21 Zennith wrote:
I'm just baffled by how many people support this. Freedom of speech is so important, I don't understand how anyone can believe otherwise? and if you claim that trollings/insulting/harassing on the internet is freedom of speech, well, i'm kinda dissapointed in you. i was actually your fanboy from other threads. 
I do think that harassing is obviously a bad thing. That being said, I don't believe that we should be punishing people for insulting others on the internet - again, it happens literally ALL THE TIME. Most of us just get over it.
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On March 31 2012 13:49 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:46 rotegirte wrote:On March 31 2012 13:45 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:42 Serinox wrote:On March 31 2012 13:40 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:soo a man walks into a house, abuses whoever was there, the fault lies on the resident for not locking the door? did i say that? no i didnt, SlayerS invited everyone in the world into there public chat and allwed them to say whatever they wanted to and then sued someone for doing jsut that its like inviteing someone into your house to beat your wife then calling the cops when he does what you ask him to it was a public chat with no rules, nor were any rules inforced yet the dude is gonna lose a large chunk of cash at the minumum for this are you fucking stupid? Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. well it would make me a bit sad i suppose, but if i didnt want strangers in my party i wouldnt ahve made it an open aprty now would i? I'll stay with your logic. If I invite strangers because I want a big party, they still wouldn't be allowed to do vandalism or stealing stuff etc. right they wouldnt be allowed because since its your party then you can set rules and choose to enforce them if you start a part in the middle of a park and let anyone who wants to come in come in then theres going to be some undesirables of course the scenario is completely different since if someone is standing right next to you in real life and yelling at you cant ignore him but if someone is in chat talking shit you can quite easily ignore him Whether you can ignore something or not doesn't make the act itself more or less punishable yes it does, if i sit in a soundproof room and start screaming obscenities at the top of my lungs i wont ever get punished (unless im not allowed to be in said room) but if i got to a public place and start screaming obsceneites ill get in trouble if i go to the same public place and whisper obscenities as quietly as i can i wont get punished (or very unlikely to get punished) its the same with the chat, he was yelling in public, and instead of just putting him in a sound proof room (ie banning him) or jsut "muting" him by not reading what hes writing she decided to sue him
Hypothetical Twitchtv Chat or whatever.
1. You try to type a reply to person A.
2. Person B types 10 abusive messages in this time.
3. You ban person B, try to resume your dialogue with A that has been interrupted.
4. Person B comes back around ban, cycle repeats, over and over.
You can ignore what one person is spamming in a chat, but often to the detriment of missing out on what other, non-idiots want to discuss. Jessica's ROLE for Slayers is in this community capacity so of course it affects her.
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On March 31 2012 13:41 Treemonkeys wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:soo a man walks into a house, abuses whoever was there, the fault lies on the resident for not locking the door? did i say that? no i didnt, SlayerS invited everyone in the world into there public chat and allwed them to say whatever they wanted to and then sued someone for doing jsut that its like inviteing someone into your house to beat your wife then calling the cops when he does what you ask him to it was a public chat with no rules, nor were any rules inforced yet the dude is gonna lose a large chunk of cash at the minumum for this are you fucking stupid? Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. People get called cunts and everything else on the internet constantly. I agree they should be punished in some way. You call someone a cunt here, you get banned, cool. You don't need to lock people in prison or take huge amounts of money from them though, that's insane.
I feel like you don't understand the concept of maximum punishment, this person will literally not get anything close to that at all.
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Lawl.
Jessica being the jessica we all know XD
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On March 31 2012 13:51 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:48 Orracle wrote:On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:
are you fucking stupid?
Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. Now lets use some logic here. You're at a bar, you walk up to a random stranger and tell him to fuck himself and continue berating him. What is going to happen to you? You're going to get kicked out(and possibly an ass kicking). The police wont be involved, because quite frankly, that's just straight up silly. Ironically, Jessica has a way to remove people from her chat, similarly to kicking some one out. Strange how it works, right? You must've not read the part where they banned him multiple times.
post it
post where it saids he got banned multiple times, the slayers people dont know how to ban therefore he couldnt possibly have ever been banned
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On March 31 2012 13:48 Orracle wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:
are you fucking stupid?
Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. Now lets use some logic here. You're at a bar, you walk up to a random stranger and tell him to fuck himself and continue berating him. What is going to happen to you? You're going to get kicked out(and possibly an ass kicking). The police wont be involved, because quite frankly, that's just straight up silly. Ironically, Jessica has a way to remove people from her chat, similarly to kicking some one out. Strange how it works, right?
Getting kicked out is fair. Getting your ass beat means the guy who started shit talking gets to press charges for assult. Fuck yeah getting the police involved is silly.
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On March 31 2012 13:45 Treemonkeys wrote:
She is just going to bring more of this on herself by being so vindictive.
Oh, yeah ? If this guy actually gets fined or any jail time, I seriously doubt more people will follow in those shoes.
I'm surprised there is criminal recourse against this, but since there apparently is (in S.K.?), I think it's kinda funny. I love when anonymous internet tough guys get the tables turned. Reminds me of Destiny's DDOS attacker punk. Personally, I don't think this should be illegal, but I don't live in S.K., so it's not my concern.
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On March 31 2012 13:51 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:50 jinorazi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:46 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:44 jinorazi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:43 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:41 jinorazi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:40 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 13:38 Chaggi wrote:On March 31 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:soo a man walks into a house, abuses whoever was there, the fault lies on the resident for not locking the door? did i say that? no i didnt, SlayerS invited everyone in the world into there public chat and allwed them to say whatever they wanted to and then sued someone for doing jsut that its like inviteing someone into your house to beat your wife then calling the cops when he does what you ask him to it was a public chat with no rules, nor were any rules inforced yet the dude is gonna lose a large chunk of cash at the minumum for this are you fucking stupid? Just cause it's a public chat doesn't mean someone has the right to berate someone else. How would you like it if you had a open party and I go in and call you a cunt. Just cause you're on the internet doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. The person won't get anything close to the penalty that's listed but this type of action in South Korea can be punished. well it would make me a bit sad i suppose, but if i didnt want strangers in my party i wouldnt ahve made it an open aprty now would i? you'll have bouncers so you can kick them out. in this case, bouncer was not there so they came in and did their shit, so the cops had to come. if there are bouncers, then its not an open party its a public party i had no idea clubs in the cities were private parties. sarcasm by the way so a hobo could wander into any club he wanted to? of course not, clubs are private parties that decide who they want to be allowed to enter, they have the right to refuse anyone entery because its a private party on private property you talk as if there are no rules in stream chats, you think going in and BM/TROLL offensive crap and expect not to get banned? EXACTLY if i break a rule of stream chat, i get banned, but if i dont get banned then i didnt break any rules this guy never got banned, therefore he never broke any rules but still gets sued
He did something wrong. It wasn't written in the chat rules, but in the law of the country he lives in. And that is what he gets sued for.
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On March 31 2012 13:46 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
Jessica is slowly but surely making me hate Slayers. Sorry Boxer but if you don't reign in your woman soon, a Slayers anti-fan I'll become.
Bingo. Someone has to tell her that this constant need for drama and attention is actually hurting the team's reputation. Get some mods on your chat, ban them if you want - problem solved. No need to drag lawyers in this, they are the real winners here.
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