• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:01
CEST 09:01
KST 16:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview1herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1737 users

"e-Sports Federation" formed by SC2 teams - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
520 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 25 26 27 Next All
evoli
Profile Joined May 2010
United States333 Posts
March 30 2012 05:04 GMT
#41
On March 30 2012 13:54 Plexa wrote:
So is this a move prompted by being scared of Kespa?

I guess some level of protection is a good thing though


I think that is the case.
General Manager for EG // twitter.com/gosutrolling
Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
March 30 2012 05:04 GMT
#42
People saying they have no pull are wrong, as this organisation IS run by the heads of the teams. There will always be great players with incentive to play.
For Aïur?
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
March 30 2012 05:05 GMT
#43
On March 30 2012 14:03 onedayclose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 13:54 Plexa wrote:
So is this a move prompted by being scared of Kespa?

I guess some level of protection is a good thing though


I would think the purpose of this organization it to create something BETTER than KESPA


Pretty sure this is a step to try to prevent KESPA from coming in and taking over the SC2 scene. (i.e. dictators)
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 05:07:40
March 30 2012 05:05 GMT
#44
I hope this does better than the last attempt without turning into kespa. Fingers crossed!

On March 30 2012 13:24 dCc wrote:
I notice that Slayers isn't a part of this. Any particular reason for this?


Because they are a democratic organization and he's an Emperor. The political systems just don't mesh.

P.S. Thanks for the statement FXOBoss. Always appreciate it when you chime in :D
aka ilovesharkpeople
Woj
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States133 Posts
March 30 2012 05:05 GMT
#45
On March 30 2012 13:46 FXOBoSs wrote:
Hi guys,

The point of this association is purely to show that we have done the hard yards as organisations in Korea and abroad to get sc2 to where it is now. It would be improper for an organisation such as Kespa to then say "join us or die".

It also promotes the ability to run 2 leagues in Korea so that the players have more incentive to train hard. If there is no resistance or discussion between the two sides, there will be heavy schedule overlaps between proleague and GSL. It would also mean you would have to pick which side you wanted to be part of.

It 'potentially' would mean an end to foreigners in korea as well. Which none of us want of course.

I hope this helps.

Regards

FXOBoSs


Thanks a lot for this! I really hope good comes out of this and nothing dramatically bad... Also the lack of SlayerS joining another group is somewhat concerning
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 05:07:28
March 30 2012 05:06 GMT
#46
On March 30 2012 14:00 FXOBoSs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 14:00 Adebisi wrote:
On March 30 2012 13:46 FXOBoSs wrote:
Hi guys,

The point of this association is purely to show that we have done the hard yards as organisations in Korea and abroad to get sc2 to where it is now. It would be improper for an organisation such as Kespa to then say "join us or die".

It also promotes the ability to run 2 leagues in Korea so that the players have more incentive to train hard. If there is no resistance or discussion between the two sides, there will be heavy schedule overlaps between proleague and GSL. It would also mean you would have to pick which side you wanted to be part of.

It 'potentially' would mean an end to foreigners in korea as well. Which none of us want of course.

I hope this helps.

Regards

FXOBoSs

Why did SlayerS choose not be be involved?


When has slayers ever been involved with other teams? If you look throughout history, they have always done their own thing.


Huh? Their team recruitment is definitely different and they have certainly made strides with allowing a few of the EG boys to practice at their facilities. Sure they weren't apart of the first organization either, no? They might do things their own way, but they might be waiting on something more as well.

That's the most likely scenario for holding out anyway.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
March 30 2012 05:07 GMT
#47
On March 30 2012 14:03 onedayclose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 13:54 Plexa wrote:
So is this a move prompted by being scared of Kespa?

I guess some level of protection is a good thing though


I would think the purpose of this organization it to create something BETTER than KESPA

Kespa isn't all bad.
Besides player treatment, everything else they have done has been good.

And player treatment isn't necessarily a Kespa thing, it's more that the competition in BW is so cutthroat.

Of course I would like more than one organization because monopoly is never the best thing for fans.
Woj
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States133 Posts
March 30 2012 05:08 GMT
#48
On March 30 2012 14:03 SirScoots wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 13:22 nokz88 wrote:
There will be no special conditions for those willing to join the Federation, and invitations will be extended to foreign organizations as well.


So anyone and everyone can join?


Hopefully this clauses preserves a foreigner presence in Korea
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
March 30 2012 05:10 GMT
#49
*puts on conspiracy theory hat*

SlayerS is a ship captained by Boxer.

Boxer was a BW Hero

Kespa is BW Overlord

Boxer obviously going to betray sc2 scene and hang out with Kespa!

*takes off conspiracy theorist hat*

Nice to see this happen and glad lots of teams are onboard, hopefully it prevents a complete collapse of current scene ^_^
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 30 2012 05:11 GMT
#50
On March 30 2012 14:08 Woj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 14:03 SirScoots wrote:
On March 30 2012 13:22 nokz88 wrote:
There will be no special conditions for those willing to join the Federation, and invitations will be extended to foreign organizations as well.


So anyone and everyone can join?


Hopefully this clauses preserves a foreigner presence in Korea


Everyone is welcome to join and keep your conspiracy theory hat off, lmao.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
March 30 2012 05:13 GMT
#51
I think is kind of a defensive league to make sure the BW teams don't just decimate all the current sc2 teams by buying all the players. Make sure they at least get good prices.
esports
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
March 30 2012 05:15 GMT
#52
Can someone explain to me why it would "potentially" bring the end of foreigners in Korea?
Team[AoV]
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 30 2012 05:15 GMT
#53
On March 30 2012 13:46 FXOBoSs wrote:
Hi guys,

The point of this association is purely to show that we have done the hard yards as organisations in Korea and abroad to get sc2 to where it is now. It would be improper for an organisation such as Kespa to then say "join us or die".

It also promotes the ability to run 2 leagues in Korea so that the players have more incentive to train hard. If there is no resistance or discussion between the two sides, there will be heavy schedule overlaps between proleague and GSL. It would also mean you would have to pick which side you wanted to be part of.

It 'potentially' would mean an end to foreigners in korea as well. Which none of us want of course.

I hope this helps.

Regards

FXOBoSs


I'm glad you guys are arming now considering all the crap KeSPA has done in the past. Good plans for the future.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
March 30 2012 05:15 GMT
#54
On March 30 2012 14:10 Active.815 wrote:
*puts on conspiracy theory hat*

SlayerS is a ship captained by Boxer.

Boxer was a BW Hero

Kespa is BW Overlord

Boxer obviously going to betray sc2 scene and hang out with Kespa!

*takes off conspiracy theorist hat*

Nice to see this happen and glad lots of teams are onboard, hopefully it prevents a complete collapse of current scene ^_^

*puts on conspiracy theory hat*

SlayerS is a ship captained by Boxer.

Boxer was a BW Hero

Kespa is BW Overlord

SKT1 stands by Kespa

SlayerS merge together with SKT1

They win at Starcraft.

*keeps the conspiracy theorist hat*
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
FrozenFrotie
Profile Joined January 2011
Singapore156 Posts
March 30 2012 05:16 GMT
#55
Kespa's bw teams are still damn cash rich...makes me wonder whether this organization is useful enough to stop players from switching over.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
March 30 2012 05:18 GMT
#56
And so after a 3 year ceasefire the war between GOM and Kespa resumes.
Betelgeuse
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada210 Posts
March 30 2012 05:20 GMT
#57
Im glad all the big teams are standing together to make shit work for everyone. Hopefully we just keep growing!
Through victory, my chains are broken.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
March 30 2012 05:22 GMT
#58
This is very, very interesting. If I was in the position of the current SC2 team in Korea I would feel a little worried as well.

I can't wait to see this unfolds between Kespa, e-Sports Federation, OGN, GOMTV, and of course, Blizzard. Hopefully it's good times ahead.
QuanticCinergy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States37 Posts
March 30 2012 05:25 GMT
#59
Sounds like there will be foreign teams invited into this as well. I'm hopeful that there will be the ability for us to organize, and be represented properly within the group. Being in a wonderful partnership with StarTale, I feel this offers a unique opportunity for those foreign teams included to appropriately and adequately represent the collective interests of Korean teams abroad, as well as the reverse, both which are beneficial to players as well as help fuel the continued development of the global SC2 scene and ecosystem.

I'm my view, there it isn't nearly as divided as is once was, from the "great escape" to NaNi's 7-probe-rush, we've already seen how interconnected these two seemingly separate scenes have become. Today, we have, as we should into the future, a growing sense of SC2 being a truly global community, with representative interests in various places, of various sizes, and with varying influence. It's becoming nearly impossible to distinguish where Korea ends and the foreign scene begins, with almost every foreign event presenting as much as 1/2 of code s players in attendance. The only real barriers we face is that of language, culture, and custom, and this new body of teams, representative of "the sc2 world" will help us be better equipped to meet the challenges we face together, as well as sieze the opportunities ahead, by making them more attainable for players and more sustainable for the teams that invest in and support their continued success.

Mark from Quantic
Founder & Former CEO of Quantic Gaming
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
March 30 2012 05:27 GMT
#60
hope it doesn't end like sc2con this time
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 25 26 27 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 170
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 4089
firebathero 474
Noble 16
Bale 7
ajuk12(nOOB) 5
KawaiiRice 5
Oya187 0
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1324
FalleN 964
Stewie2K623
m0e_tv474
Other Games
C9.Mang0491
WinterStarcraft449
ceh9288
Sick276
RuFF_SC247
Trikslyr16
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL32119
Other Games
gamesdonequick547
BasetradeTV142
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH168
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1181
• Rush1112
• HappyZerGling60
Upcoming Events
GSL
2h 29m
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
16h 59m
GSL
1d 2h
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
5 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-19
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.