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On March 30 2012 13:54 Plexa wrote: So is this a move prompted by being scared of Kespa?
I guess some level of protection is a good thing though
I think that is the case.
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People saying they have no pull are wrong, as this organisation IS run by the heads of the teams. There will always be great players with incentive to play.
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On March 30 2012 14:03 onedayclose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 13:54 Plexa wrote: So is this a move prompted by being scared of Kespa?
I guess some level of protection is a good thing though I would think the purpose of this organization it to create something BETTER than KESPA
Pretty sure this is a step to try to prevent KESPA from coming in and taking over the SC2 scene. (i.e. dictators)
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I hope this does better than the last attempt without turning into kespa. Fingers crossed!
On March 30 2012 13:24 dCc wrote: I notice that Slayers isn't a part of this. Any particular reason for this?
Because they are a democratic organization and he's an Emperor. The political systems just don't mesh.
P.S. Thanks for the statement FXOBoss. Always appreciate it when you chime in :D
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On March 30 2012 13:46 FXOBoSs wrote: Hi guys,
The point of this association is purely to show that we have done the hard yards as organisations in Korea and abroad to get sc2 to where it is now. It would be improper for an organisation such as Kespa to then say "join us or die".
It also promotes the ability to run 2 leagues in Korea so that the players have more incentive to train hard. If there is no resistance or discussion between the two sides, there will be heavy schedule overlaps between proleague and GSL. It would also mean you would have to pick which side you wanted to be part of.
It 'potentially' would mean an end to foreigners in korea as well. Which none of us want of course.
I hope this helps.
Regards
FXOBoSs
Thanks a lot for this! I really hope good comes out of this and nothing dramatically bad... Also the lack of SlayerS joining another group is somewhat concerning
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On March 30 2012 14:00 FXOBoSs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 14:00 Adebisi wrote:On March 30 2012 13:46 FXOBoSs wrote: Hi guys,
The point of this association is purely to show that we have done the hard yards as organisations in Korea and abroad to get sc2 to where it is now. It would be improper for an organisation such as Kespa to then say "join us or die".
It also promotes the ability to run 2 leagues in Korea so that the players have more incentive to train hard. If there is no resistance or discussion between the two sides, there will be heavy schedule overlaps between proleague and GSL. It would also mean you would have to pick which side you wanted to be part of.
It 'potentially' would mean an end to foreigners in korea as well. Which none of us want of course.
I hope this helps.
Regards
FXOBoSs Why did SlayerS choose not be be involved? When has slayers ever been involved with other teams? If you look throughout history, they have always done their own thing.
Huh? Their team recruitment is definitely different and they have certainly made strides with allowing a few of the EG boys to practice at their facilities. Sure they weren't apart of the first organization either, no? They might do things their own way, but they might be waiting on something more as well.
That's the most likely scenario for holding out anyway.
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On March 30 2012 14:03 onedayclose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 13:54 Plexa wrote: So is this a move prompted by being scared of Kespa?
I guess some level of protection is a good thing though I would think the purpose of this organization it to create something BETTER than KESPA Kespa isn't all bad. Besides player treatment, everything else they have done has been good.
And player treatment isn't necessarily a Kespa thing, it's more that the competition in BW is so cutthroat.
Of course I would like more than one organization because monopoly is never the best thing for fans.
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On March 30 2012 14:03 SirScoots wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 13:22 nokz88 wrote: There will be no special conditions for those willing to join the Federation, and invitations will be extended to foreign organizations as well.
So anyone and everyone can join?
Hopefully this clauses preserves a foreigner presence in Korea
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*puts on conspiracy theory hat*
SlayerS is a ship captained by Boxer.
Boxer was a BW Hero
Kespa is BW Overlord
Boxer obviously going to betray sc2 scene and hang out with Kespa!
*takes off conspiracy theorist hat*
Nice to see this happen and glad lots of teams are onboard, hopefully it prevents a complete collapse of current scene ^_^
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On March 30 2012 14:08 Woj wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 14:03 SirScoots wrote:On March 30 2012 13:22 nokz88 wrote: There will be no special conditions for those willing to join the Federation, and invitations will be extended to foreign organizations as well.
So anyone and everyone can join? Hopefully this clauses preserves a foreigner presence in Korea
Everyone is welcome to join and keep your conspiracy theory hat off, lmao.
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I think is kind of a defensive league to make sure the BW teams don't just decimate all the current sc2 teams by buying all the players. Make sure they at least get good prices.
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Can someone explain to me why it would "potentially" bring the end of foreigners in Korea?
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On March 30 2012 13:46 FXOBoSs wrote: Hi guys,
The point of this association is purely to show that we have done the hard yards as organisations in Korea and abroad to get sc2 to where it is now. It would be improper for an organisation such as Kespa to then say "join us or die".
It also promotes the ability to run 2 leagues in Korea so that the players have more incentive to train hard. If there is no resistance or discussion between the two sides, there will be heavy schedule overlaps between proleague and GSL. It would also mean you would have to pick which side you wanted to be part of.
It 'potentially' would mean an end to foreigners in korea as well. Which none of us want of course.
I hope this helps.
Regards
FXOBoSs
I'm glad you guys are arming now considering all the crap KeSPA has done in the past. Good plans for the future.
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On March 30 2012 14:10 Active.815 wrote: *puts on conspiracy theory hat*
SlayerS is a ship captained by Boxer.
Boxer was a BW Hero
Kespa is BW Overlord
Boxer obviously going to betray sc2 scene and hang out with Kespa!
*takes off conspiracy theorist hat*
Nice to see this happen and glad lots of teams are onboard, hopefully it prevents a complete collapse of current scene ^_^ *puts on conspiracy theory hat*
SlayerS is a ship captained by Boxer.
Boxer was a BW Hero
Kespa is BW Overlord
SKT1 stands by Kespa
SlayerS merge together with SKT1
They win at Starcraft.
*keeps the conspiracy theorist hat*
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Kespa's bw teams are still damn cash rich...makes me wonder whether this organization is useful enough to stop players from switching over.
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And so after a 3 year ceasefire the war between GOM and Kespa resumes.
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Im glad all the big teams are standing together to make shit work for everyone. Hopefully we just keep growing!
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This is very, very interesting. If I was in the position of the current SC2 team in Korea I would feel a little worried as well.
I can't wait to see this unfolds between Kespa, e-Sports Federation, OGN, GOMTV, and of course, Blizzard. Hopefully it's good times ahead.
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Sounds like there will be foreign teams invited into this as well. I'm hopeful that there will be the ability for us to organize, and be represented properly within the group. Being in a wonderful partnership with StarTale, I feel this offers a unique opportunity for those foreign teams included to appropriately and adequately represent the collective interests of Korean teams abroad, as well as the reverse, both which are beneficial to players as well as help fuel the continued development of the global SC2 scene and ecosystem.
I'm my view, there it isn't nearly as divided as is once was, from the "great escape" to NaNi's 7-probe-rush, we've already seen how interconnected these two seemingly separate scenes have become. Today, we have, as we should into the future, a growing sense of SC2 being a truly global community, with representative interests in various places, of various sizes, and with varying influence. It's becoming nearly impossible to distinguish where Korea ends and the foreign scene begins, with almost every foreign event presenting as much as 1/2 of code s players in attendance. The only real barriers we face is that of language, culture, and custom, and this new body of teams, representative of "the sc2 world" will help us be better equipped to meet the challenges we face together, as well as sieze the opportunities ahead, by making them more attainable for players and more sustainable for the teams that invest in and support their continued success.
Mark from Quantic
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hope it doesn't end like sc2con this time
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