EPTMy statement and apologies - Page 44
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mr.reee
121 Posts
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pwnopotamus
United States70 Posts
I believe it's time to start looking for a new line of work in a completely different industry. No e-sports event with any sense whatsoever will ever going to hire you again. It simply won't be worth it. The fact of the matter is, you offended a lot of people that will refuse to watch you, boycott any event you're associated with, and complain to sponsors and management about your involvement. You may also want to think about changing your name (your REAL name). Your racist comments and reputation will follow you forever, as a simple Google search will always turn up results based on this incident. Good luck trying to find another job. I don't think you're truly a racist person, so it sucks that you're going to forever be made an example of why NOT to casually drop n-bombs in public...or say that word at all. There certainly could be other, far more hateful people, that deserve punishment more than you. However, I'm glad that this incident will likely teach people that using the n-word is NOT okay, and there are repercussions to saying it. Thanks buddy...now go slink away and disappear forever. | ||
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
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Loomies
United States645 Posts
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Eisregen
Germany967 Posts
On March 10 2012 02:08 mr.reee wrote: Can he prove what he says in the "Edit?" Can YOU prove it isnt? I mean, did the system about proving one's innocence slip back into the present from medieval time? | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
Really, people get fucked over because they used a word that may or may not have negative implications? What the hell?! While not even remotely expressing racist/xenophobe feelings? Wow ... Anyway, hf with your speech police planet, I heard soon words will kill people. FYI I do understand what hate speech is but there's a huge difference. And in the beginning that was the reason for the PC mania, but morons apparently don't like to think too much about thought and context and meaning so everything's banned. I heard there's no more neo-nazi groups, or KKK, forbid hate words but do little against actual hate. Oh joy! Figures, when you get sheeple to lead. I think some people forget they have a brain to use to think about more than the surface, and balls to make actual decisions instead of simply form, with no effect on the theoretically intended target. | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On March 10 2012 02:08 pwnopotamus wrote: I believe it's time to start looking for a new line of work in a completely different industry. No e-sports event with any sense whatsoever will ever going to hire you again. It simply won't be worth it. The fact of the matter is, you offended a lot of people that will refuse to watch you, boycott any event you're associated with, and complain to sponsors and management about your involvement. You may also want to think about changing your name (your REAL name). Your racist comments and reputation will follow you forever, as a simple Google search will always turn up results based on this incident. Good luck trying to find another job. I think you mistook the teamliquid forums for an application for a Shakespeare troupe. It's an easy mistake to make, though, good luck with your auditions! | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
On March 10 2012 02:08 pwnopotamus wrote: Orb, I believe it's time to start looking for a new line of work in a completely different industry. No e-sports event with any sense whatsoever will ever going to hire you again. It simply won't be worth it. The fact of the matter is, you offended a lot of people that will refuse to watch you, boycott any event you're associated with, and complain to sponsors and management about your involvement. You may also want to think about changing your name (your REAL name). Your racist comments and reputation will follow you forever, as a simple Google search will always turn up results based on this incident. Good luck trying to find another job. I don't think you're truly a racist person, so it sucks that you're going to forever be made an example of why NOT to casually drop n-bombs in public...or say that word at all. There certainly could be other, far more hateful people, that deserve punishment more than you. However, I'm glad that this incident will likely teach people that using the n-word is NOT okay, and there are repercussions to saying it. Thanks buddy...now go slink away and disappear forever. haha wow.. seriously? | ||
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
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Flix
Belgium114 Posts
On March 09 2012 23:57 DoubleReed wrote: I seen Catholics use the word Catholic as deragatory and Jews use Jew as derogatory. Yes, online matters because you can't see the other person. You don't know orb is black or not unless you actually see him. Because of that very obvious fact with trolls and bm everywhere racial slurs simply don't have any weight. I feel like this is obvious to anyone who has been on the Internet for any period of time. So welcome. And the kid just lost his fucking job over it so don't act like you're the sensitive one. Hold on here, online SHOULD not matter when deciding if you're going to use a racial slur or not. That's just being a pussy. BUT i admit that saying something to someones face is a different story, definitely has more impact and is thus more offensive by nature. I think that just the fact that everyone is making a big deal about it is positive and shows sensitivity. I would absolutely lose my job as well if I talked the way he did at work as is the case with the majority of jobs in 1st world countries i'm sure. I feel absolutely no pity for orb whatsoever for losing his over what EG considered to be offensive language of a very "politicaly incorrect" nature. This should not be a surprise. | ||
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Benjamin80
581 Posts
On March 10 2012 02:08 pwnopotamus wrote: Orb, I believe it's time to start looking for a new line of work in a completely different industry. No e-sports event with any sense whatsoever will ever going to hire you again. It simply won't be worth it. The fact of the matter is, you offended a lot of people that will refuse to watch you, boycott any event you're associated with, and complain to sponsors and management about your involvement. You may also want to think about changing your name (your REAL name). Your racist comments and reputation will follow you forever, as a simple Google search will always turn up results based on this incident. Good luck trying to find another job. I don't think you're truly a racist person, so it sucks that you're going to forever be made an example of why NOT to casually drop n-bombs in public...or say that word at all. There certainly could be other, far more hateful people, that deserve punishment more than you. However, I'm glad that this incident will likely teach people that using the n-word is NOT okay, and there are repercussions to saying it. Thanks buddy...now go slink away and disappear forever. Sweet mother. Maybe he should change his looks also? Some cosmetic surgery could help there. | ||
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wacko
Netherlands16 Posts
though i wanna ask one question, and please im sorry and correct me if im wrong, but why does Idra get a special ttreatment? its not like he has been the nicest player, nor is he still, the nicest player. then again he is some sort of an *icon* for EG. so my question is: what punishment is idra going to get for his bad manners, and words that he said in old games. i mean if your going to tr eat 1 person that way, treat your whole team that way. seems the most fairest to me. also i apologize for my english language, but im doing my best. | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
I find the judgemental attitude of this thread beyond the pale. It's so easy to throw rocks at someone while their down as if everyone posting to this thread has never screwed up. And the rank hypocracy behind EG's rational for their decision to fire Orb, and the subsequent "holier than thou" rational to make this thing as public as they made it -- while one of their own players throws homosexual epethats like drinking water -- is astounding. EG showed no courage or any integrity in how this was handled. This was all PR and making EG look like the good guy protecting ESports which is balogny. The couragous thing would have been to stick up for their employee, have him make a public on air apology and move on with the matter. EG behaved like corperate cowards. There was no protecting ESports in this decision, just protecting EG and the financial interests of EG -- which they're certainley entitled to do -- but it's not courage or honarable behaviour. | ||
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Doomwish
438 Posts
On March 10 2012 02:08 pwnopotamus wrote: Orb, I believe it's time to start looking for a new line of work in a completely different industry. No e-sports event with any sense whatsoever will ever going to hire you again. It simply won't be worth it. The fact of the matter is, you offended a lot of people that will refuse to watch you, boycott any event you're associated with, and complain to sponsors and management about your involvement. You may also want to think about changing your name (your REAL name). Your racist comments and reputation will follow you forever, as a simple Google search will always turn up results based on this incident. Good luck trying to find another job. I don't think you're truly a racist person, so it sucks that you're going to forever be made an example of why NOT to casually drop n-bombs in public...or say that word at all. There certainly could be other, far more hateful people, that deserve punishment more than you. However, I'm glad that this incident will likely teach people that using the n-word is NOT okay, and there are repercussions to saying it. Thanks buddy...now go slink away and disappear forever. I think he was a waiter before, he can do fine in the food service industry. They don't do extensive background checks for the most part. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On March 10 2012 02:10 Loomies wrote: is it possible for blizzard to do an IP check for when the ladder game occured to see if orb is lying? IDK about Blizzard but I'm sure that Interpol are working on the case as we speak. It's funny how 1 word can make you a racist in some people's eyes... And it's even funnier how many of them are out there. | ||
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Quelyn
Finland9 Posts
IMHO Mr Sklarew has a fitting personality for being a caster in the way he is emotional, and how he is in contact with the community. Also I've found it awesome that he sometimes streams ladder games with more leisure attitude, and goes even more emotional. Yup, that ranting has been entertaining, I found it very similar to some forms of comedy in TV. Wish that more sc2 professionals would sometimes do unofficial stuff like that. With his skills, attitude and personality, I have no doubt that Orb will continue to be an important character in SC2 scene. Which is just great for us all! | ||
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Ozira
Sweden150 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:19 sam!zdat wrote: Nobody thinks you are a racist. . I do. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On March 10 2012 02:08 mr.reee wrote: Can he prove what he says in the "Edit?" I guess it would only take one more screenshot or replay to prove it wrong, but there isn't a way to prove it right. | ||
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battyone
United States180 Posts
On March 10 2012 02:25 Zorkmid wrote: I guess it would only take one more screenshot or replay to prove it wrong, but there isn't a way to prove it right. A screenshot wouldn't help, a replay might work well with sc2gears, but the burden of proof isn't on the accused. Instead of proving he did say that recently people went through every single replay and vod around looking for another instance...which proved nothing about this particular instance. Mob logic, everyone is always guilty and nobody can ever be innocent. | ||
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