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On March 09 2012 13:16 Silentness wrote: As a black Starcraft 2 player, I respect your apology decision. We all make mistakes. Hopefully EG will accept you back soon.
They said in their statement that they won't be taking him back at all, which sucks bad :L Maybe its the right decision, maybe its not. I'm in no place to judge.
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Ultimately EG did the right thing. It may seem harsh to some people, but at some point a stand needs to be taken against the racism, homophobia and misogyny that sadly remains rampant in gaming today. No, you don't have some god given constitutional right to call people a "faggot" and a "nigger" over the internet and get away with it, there's plenty of other insults you can use if you genuinely can't manage your temper.
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I think EG did the right thing and perhaps the community needs a poster boy for this shit to stop. Racist comments or language are never acceptable and I can't believe he's trying the old "it was for comedy or joking around" excuse. This shouldn't have happened in the first place. Also what's the deal with stating that this was before he joined EG? That's false in some cases it was 2 days after he joined.
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Frankly, I'm glad that people with that kind of ideas (yeah we all rage, I never raged and used racism and regret it afterwards, either you're racist or you're not, you dont use "dumb n*****" for fun or just by rage...) that you're out. Kids with that kind of ideas and words, just shouldnt get any attention, good luck in the darkness
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No one thinks you're a proper racist. We've all flipped a shit on the ladder more than once.
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lol @ this drama...
Where is the world going. Creating a problem with nothing~ Get over it already wtf.
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It is a word. Stop acting like small offended children.
Hope you get back orb! But stop playing protoss and man up to play for the swarm!
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this thread has a particularly high volume of drama queens. I suppose this sort of thing all you have left to cry about when living in first world country's
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I forgive you and GL, everybody here only makes themself saint eventhough they know they did much worse things. Not a big deal at all, people insult me on ladder ALL the time, 20xtimes a day, practically almost every game, eventough i am always mannered.
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Glad this drama is kinda resolved now. What I've observed is nowadays poeple use the N word, f-t word(yeah even me and other derogatory terms for ethnical groups quite convienently. Interestingly when i confront them with their "racist" wording all of them stress the fact that they are not racist. How come terms like that are used so often without even thinking about it? I've never used any racist words while raging since there are so many other insults you can use.
P.S.: I have to mention that it mostly happens in non-SC2-communities.
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On March 09 2012 20:38 Korelle wrote: Ultimately EG did the right thing. It may seem harsh to some people, but at some point a stand needs to be taken against the racism, homophobia and misogyny that sadly remains rampant in gaming today. No, you don't have some god given constitutional right to call people a "faggot" and a "nigger" over the internet and get away with it, there's plenty of other insults you can use if you genuinely can't manage your temper.
Only racists, bigots and homophobes are the ones who truly want to ban these words, as by doing that, they will reinforce the differences between the sexes and the races.
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On March 09 2012 20:35 Zambrah wrote: When people learn to stop being so god damned sensitive and learned to take context into account, we'll all be better for it.
Until then, one of my favorite casters has departed my favorite team, and this makes me sad.
We'd all be better for tolerating racist and homophobic rants? Come on man, really?
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On March 09 2012 20:52 captive411 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 20:35 Zambrah wrote: When people learn to stop being so god damned sensitive and learned to take context into account, we'll all be better for it.
Until then, one of my favorite casters has departed my favorite team, and this makes me sad. We'd all be better for tolerating racist and homophobic rants? Come on man, really?
IBanning words like nigger and faggot, makes you a racists and a homophobe, as you permanently define and highlight the differences between the sexes and the races.
If people like you would stop seeing it as racism and bigotism, then te words would lose those meaings. You are seriously, the only ones who think they are either racists or homophobic.
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On March 09 2012 20:52 captive411 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 20:35 Zambrah wrote: When people learn to stop being so god damned sensitive and learned to take context into account, we'll all be better for it.
Until then, one of my favorite casters has departed my favorite team, and this makes me sad. We'd all be better for tolerating racist and homophobic rants? Come on man, really?
Where did orb ever say that he hated black people and gay people?
Oh, wait, he didn't? Because the way he was using the word made it interchangeable with any vulgarity? It had no racial meaning?
Oh yeah, you're taking it out of context.
EDIT: Zergmeister, what you said.
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On March 09 2012 20:52 captive411 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 20:35 Zambrah wrote: When people learn to stop being so god damned sensitive and learned to take context into account, we'll all be better for it.
Until then, one of my favorite casters has departed my favorite team, and this makes me sad. We'd all be better for tolerating racist and homophobic rants? Come on man, really?
lol and that he insulted somebody on ladder means that he is racist? Ha,give me a break!
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this incident is kind of funny.... I have zero respect for people who rage at their opponents, I dont even care what words they use. Seeing this kind of behavior coming back and biting someone in the ass like that is really sweet. Sure, when you lose due to stupid shit you rage. Hit your desk, swear at your monitor, do whatever. But writing insults to some unknown guy somewhere in the world who just whooped your ass? You sir, are a moron.
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On March 09 2012 20:52 captive411 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 20:35 Zambrah wrote: When people learn to stop being so god damned sensitive and learned to take context into account, we'll all be better for it.
Until then, one of my favorite casters has departed my favorite team, and this makes me sad. We'd all be better for tolerating racist and homophobic rants? Come on man, really?
We'd all be better for tolerating racist and homophobic rants on the same level as any other rants
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On March 09 2012 20:50 Zergmeister wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 20:38 Korelle wrote: Ultimately EG did the right thing. It may seem harsh to some people, but at some point a stand needs to be taken against the racism, homophobia and misogyny that sadly remains rampant in gaming today. No, you don't have some god given constitutional right to call people a "faggot" and a "nigger" over the internet and get away with it, there's plenty of other insults you can use if you genuinely can't manage your temper. Only racists, bigots and homophobes are the ones who truly want to ban these words, as by doing that, they will reinforce the differences between the sexes and the races.
This makes no sense.
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On March 09 2012 20:59 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 20:50 Zergmeister wrote:On March 09 2012 20:38 Korelle wrote: Ultimately EG did the right thing. It may seem harsh to some people, but at some point a stand needs to be taken against the racism, homophobia and misogyny that sadly remains rampant in gaming today. No, you don't have some god given constitutional right to call people a "faggot" and a "nigger" over the internet and get away with it, there's plenty of other insults you can use if you genuinely can't manage your temper. Only racists, bigots and homophobes are the ones who truly want to ban these words, as by doing that, they will reinforce the differences between the sexes and the races. This makes no sense.
When people consider words like nigger to be so powerfully racist, regardless of context, all they do is highlight the differences between races, when in reality, we should be striving to eliminate most considerations of race.
Same reason hate crime legislation is an incredibly stupid thing.
When people make such a big deal about race, you only greater bigger racial divides.
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On March 09 2012 20:34 mdbx wrote: I remember tuning into watch orb stream because I enjoyed watching him rage when playing against retarded all-ins or cheese, I would have never thought that this guy would be with teamEG one day. I find it absolutely pathetic that people find the N word offensive when its part of the online community to begin with. Nobody gets pissed off and starts chatting "Ooh f you, you" mick, yank, wetback, or other derogatory terms consistantly.. Ooh noo, it's the N word. And suddenly every african american flips shit over it. WELCOME TO THE INTERNET. You're unbelievably wrong. If you really think that this has anything to do with the internet, go out to the real world and start calling everyone a nigger. See how far that gets you. The only internet thing here is, that there are actual (male white heterosexual) kids thinking it's totally okay to use those words and are shocked if they get called out for it.
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