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Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
March 09 2012 10:30 GMT
#661
Although i agree that its unacceptable to use the "n" word i think we have lost more than we have gained here, and that is a very good caster that is very talented with the game as well.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
March 09 2012 10:42 GMT
#662
you guys must really like watching people fall from grace.
High Risk Low Reward
Enearde
Profile Joined February 2011
France265 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 10:43:50
March 09 2012 10:42 GMT
#663
I completely agree with the decision that was taken. This kind of behaviour is nothing to be tolerated on a professional level and should not be tolerated on a non professional level neither.

However, i'm very regretful facing the fact that our community is all about vigilante justice and revenge. Orb might have done wrong and might be a very bad mannered person BUT when i'm seeing people being happy about someone who dedicated his time for the growing of Esport being fired i'm disheartened. Sorry people, being BM is nothing compared to that. We shouldn't be happy about a person being fired because whoever he might be, he did things for us that few of us could have done. We should all be sad that Orb might not be able to cast anymore or at least for a very long time.

I'm so sad people thinks that they do good in being heartless, they think wrong.
GeNeSiDe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom354 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 10:51:34
March 09 2012 10:50 GMT
#664
I drop the N-Bomb all the time on ladder.
So what?

Feels good when your angry, seeing how it's the biggest taboo to say in real life probably makes it the most satisfying.

That and calling someone a jew.
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iEatWoofers
Profile Joined August 2011
Switzerland108 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 11:01:19
March 09 2012 10:53 GMT
#665
Too bad... I was really enjoying the MCSL and your casting (except when you shouted really loud )

I bet almost everyone at one point in their life said things they shouldn't have. I know I have done it, so I can't say that I can't forgive you.

I hope you can get back into casting asap.


Off Topic (sorta): Oh, and censoring yourself by saying "the n-word" is actually really dumb and isn't any better than actually saying it. Everyone knows what you mean, and context IS important. Mature people should understand that... same goes for "the f-word" btw. Either make sentences that don't need the word in there anyway (like me) or just write/say it ffs. (I'm not using the words to make my point because I don't wanna get banned )
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
March 09 2012 10:54 GMT
#666
In my eyes you've redeemed yourself but unfortunately everyone ain't that passive towards these kinds of things. Hopefully everything will go just fine for you.
insearchof
Profile Joined July 2011
United States57 Posts
March 09 2012 10:58 GMT
#667
sorry when it cost you something.... when will people learn
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
dark0dave
Profile Joined November 2010
179 Posts
March 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#668
It's ok, I'm sorry that the community came down on you in such a manner.
I am sure you are forgiven, hope you continue to provide content for the community.
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What is dead may never die. BW forever.
nodnod
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand172 Posts
March 09 2012 11:05 GMT
#669
It's a sincere apology. Just wanted to wish you luck in your future endavours in Esports.
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
March 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#670
Good decision on EG's part. Nothing frustrates me more than when young (and sometimes idiotic) people take words in their mouth which they have no idea how powerful they are. Words like n----r and f----t are unfortunately used very frequently over the internet by people who hide behind their screens. I do hope, that people (mostly of the younger generations) starts using the simple concept of "Think before you act" not just face to face, but over the internet as well.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
March 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#671
I like you as a caster, Orb. You do not show any signs of distasteful or undesirable language in your professional work and I will continue to enjoy your casting. I hope everything is settled down now.
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
March 09 2012 11:17 GMT
#672
I personally don't believe that the only times Orb used comments like that were from those screenshots 1+ years ago. I just feel that "the lady doth protest too much" concerning the comments that surfaced on reddit from recent games. Whether or not Orb is telling the truth or not is not only irrelevant at this point, but I feel that given the character that Orb has shown, his words are untrustworthy.

That being said, I do hope that he learns what he has done and that this apology is sincere (given the protesting on reddit and accusations of slander etc. along with the attitude when he finally admitted it, I don't find it is). Still, knowing that Orb just moved into the EG house, I hope he isn't left homeless over this. That might be a bit extreme.
ODK
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany17 Posts
March 09 2012 11:18 GMT
#673
This is the internet.. and i think its soooooooo retarted!!!! Oh look he used the N word hes a Nazi blabla, guys come on... it was just a rage and i believe orb didnt thought about the impact he gets. I still stand to Orb and im no nazi or racist. I smoke weed all the day, playing SC2 and yeah... how can this lifestyle fit to a nazi!?! im hearing hiphop too and they using the N word pretty often so they racist or nazis too!?! Just want to stay, dont make too much trouble about a rage on ladder, its so much going on in the world, so lets keep the Sc2community together
ZergOwaR
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway280 Posts
March 09 2012 11:21 GMT
#674
On March 09 2012 18:54 Dave-o wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 18:47 Vorenius wrote:
On March 09 2012 18:37 Dave-o wrote:
On March 09 2012 18:20 Vorenius wrote:
Based on personal experience it seems 50% of people start yelling about faggots when they lose a ladder game. Though doing something wrong because others do isn't a justification, there are many many MANY more people who needs to be fired if you were over this.

Idra has acted just as bad while he was officially representing EG. Firing you for something you did over a year ago, while letting Idra off with an internal scolding for a far worse offence, is incredibly hypocritical.

Just remember that next time. You need to bring in more revenue before you can start acting how you want on EG...


If your going to say Idra is "far worse" bring some evidance. I have never seen Idra say "nigger". "faggot" sure.

How is faggot any different from saying nigger? :s

Idra has made hateful comments while officially representing EG. Orb has made hateful comments a year before he worked with EG.

If they fire Orb, they should sue Idra into the ground, sue all his relative, haunt him untill the day he dies, and then piss on his grave.

(Hint: I don't think they should do either, but if people want to praise them for being consistent, they should be consistent)



How is faggot different from nigger? Ware do i start? The 100's of years of slavery? The civil war? MLK? Yes these are both words that are ment to hurt. But one word brings up a sad time in American history when one group of people OWNED another. Did people own gays? No.

Also Do u actually think that first screen shot was his "friend"? U actually buy that crap?


Its not very hard to find stories where a nice honest and friendly man is getting beaten, bullied, shunned, oppressed, treated like a lesser person... all over the world.. also in many parts of the u.s... this very day.. the present.. not history...
the man is gay... though in your setting.. he could have been black couldn't he?

even here in norway.. i've grown up with that gay people have been bullied.. even so far to drive them to suicide..
it has gotten better... but its not near to the acceptance that race have gotten...

if you want a gradation on it i would say gay is the worse word to use compared to nigger.

personally both words are just words to be used to insult... only sensitive, thin skinned people gets so bothered by words
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 09 2012 11:25 GMT
#675
Good luck orb. One of the best casters out there.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
March 09 2012 11:26 GMT
#676
Even though I think that you acted like a stupid, raging kid in that game, the reactions from the community towards you were over the top. Keep your head up and get your shit together. A wise man once said: "If you lose, don`t lose the lesson" Maybe this incident helps you in the future. gl.
keep it deep! @zulison
Bajsgrodan
Profile Joined November 2010
Afghanistan408 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 11:29:12
March 09 2012 11:29 GMT
#677
Brush it off your shoulders, everyone who gets famous has some dirt on them. Now just try to handle this as well as you can and you will come out a wiser man.

Best of luck and try to switch into other ways of venting your ladder frustration.

(I sometimes just go punch my pillow [careful with your wrist though], it actually helps alot)
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mdbx
Profile Joined December 2011
4 Posts
March 09 2012 11:34 GMT
#678
I remember tuning into watch orb stream because I enjoyed watching him rage when playing against retarded all-ins or cheese, I would have never thought that this guy would be with teamEG one day. I find it absolutely pathetic that people find the N word offensive when its part of the online community to begin with. Nobody gets pissed off and starts chatting "Ooh f you, you" mick, yank, wetback, or other derogatory terms consistantly.. Ooh noo, it's the N word. And suddenly every african american flips shit over it. WELCOME TO THE INTERNET.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
March 09 2012 11:34 GMT
#679
Awww.. We forgive you.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7290 Posts
March 09 2012 11:35 GMT
#680
When people learn to stop being so god damned sensitive and learned to take context into account, we'll all be better for it.

Until then, one of my favorite casters has departed my favorite team, and this makes me sad.
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