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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 06:07:25
March 09 2012 06:05 GMT
#381
Well, this was a bad ending for all parties...
Everything could have probably been worked out without Orb being fired, but instead half of TL and most of Reddit decides to go into lynch mob mode and start bringing complaints to the sponsors, and now EG really has no other choice than to fire a great caster. Orb was in the wrong for his language and also for trying to cover it up and should have received punishment, but there was no need for him to get publicly embarrassed this way. If you want to complain about things like this, at least have the decency to notify the managers as individuals and not as a lynch mob.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
blackberry_
Profile Joined September 2011
114 Posts
March 09 2012 06:05 GMT
#382
Sorry this happened to you man. That reddit hate mob is out of control. It gots mad power. Casters, BEWARE~
Live your life.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
March 09 2012 06:05 GMT
#383
Ugh, this is awful news. I'm sorry orb I have always liked your casting.

Everybody makes mistakes. It's just unfortunate that the mistakes of those in the public view are always held up to so much more scrutiny than anybody else.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 06:06 GMT
#384
On March 09 2012 15:03 ileaNWoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:55 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:52 PauseBreak wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:50 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:49 PauseBreak wrote:
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.

IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it


I'm not upset or anything. So don't take my posts the wrong way.

Idra calling people "faggots" is extremely offensive. If Alex was gay I garentee that Idra would get the boot fast than you can spell applesauce.

i dont think Alex's personal feeligns had anything to do with it

in general, the majority of people rank nigger as a far more offensive term then any that exist and alex has tweeted that every time idra saids faggot he gets a personal talking to from him and thats why he doesnt anymore


In Alex's post he specifically said he hoped people would treat fa---- like n-----

thank you for backing me, since he wants people to do so he acknowledges people dont currently and since IdrA has stopped using that word its a non-issue
yoten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 06:25:28
March 09 2012 06:07 GMT
#385
I agree with your dismissal, but this apology seems sincere (unlike so many) and I hope you can find work somewhere else. You're a good caster.
Edit: I just realized, he didn't apologize for lying to EG and for attempting to mislead the community. I think that's what he was really fired for.
"Do with my minions as you will, Cerebrate. They will serve you unquestioningly. Go and bring swift wrath to all who would oppose the Swarm."
Dave-o
Profile Joined March 2012
United States26 Posts
March 09 2012 06:07 GMT
#386
On March 09 2012 15:01 ileaNWoL wrote:
Even if your account was being used by someone else ( which I don't think it was ), I would have expected you to sit back, analyze the situation, and do the right thing by coming out immediately and apologizing. The smoke and mirrors only dug you a deeper hole and probably left a lot of people with more animosity towards you.

Secondly, your apologize was something I'd expect from a 6 year old who was only apologizing because their parents were making them. It was written half-heartedly and didn't address the things people are up in arms about.

Thirdly, I don't think attacking people ( Totalbisquit ) on your twitter is such a good PR move.


+1

And tossing progamers under the bus that have used similar language did not help your cause. You have additional apologies to write to Total and Idra at least.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 09 2012 06:07 GMT
#387
On March 09 2012 14:53 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:52 PauseBreak wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:50 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:49 PauseBreak wrote:
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.

IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it


I'm not upset or anything. So don't take my posts the wrong way.

Idra calling people "faggots" is extremely offensive. If Alex was gay I garentee that Idra would get the boot fast than you can spell applesauce.

he already addressed idra. go read the other thread.


A mild scolding and firing someone is hardly the same thing.
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
March 09 2012 06:07 GMT
#388
On March 09 2012 15:04 GranDGranT wrote:
Come Cast Dota 2 Orb, Less Stuck up Fat nerds.


thanks for insulting the community on the community website....

I watched orbs stream months ago and was actually pretty surprised that he was let into the community as a caster.

Anyone who knew who this guy really was wouldn't be shocked an incident like this came up, it was just a matter of time.

Get some help Orb.
Rebel_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 06:11:03
March 09 2012 06:08 GMT
#389
Well it sucks. But damn you lied to scoots and made him look like a fool now. Wow, you need to learn to shut up when you get angered and just leave the game without talking. If you did that, this would not have happened at all.

No one should not get a chance at all for using a racist word like that. If you use it, say it to yourself or friends, don't bring it out to the public eyes.

You got what you deserve and lets see if this does change you. Everyone does make mistakes, but a word like that... really should have not been written at all to anyone. Common sense.. really.

Lets see what happens in the future, but this will be stuck with you. For the history of Starcraft 2.
“Give the guy a gun he's superman, give him two and he’s God.” - Hard Boiled
mcleod
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada350 Posts
March 09 2012 06:08 GMT
#390
good luck orb!!!
Gecko4lif
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States42 Posts
March 09 2012 06:08 GMT
#391
Didnt anybody learn from charlie sheen? The public is always watching
Siliticx
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada206 Posts
March 09 2012 06:08 GMT
#392
So many people jealous. I'm sorry this happened orb. Maybe youll do more streaming now, and like destiny, ill now follow you closer.
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timed
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada40 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 06:14:06
March 09 2012 06:09 GMT
#393
Well, this does seem quite sincere and it looks like you've matured since you said those things, so you still have my respect. I'm not sure if you should have been fired just based on your past behaviour, since people do change, but you did also lie...
Hybris
Profile Joined August 2010
United States185 Posts
March 09 2012 06:09 GMT
#394
Kids grow up eventually. Maybe you will one day, but this is just a half-ass attempt at redemption....
justin.tv/hybriss
Dave-o
Profile Joined March 2012
United States26 Posts
March 09 2012 06:09 GMT
#395
On March 09 2012 15:07 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:53 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:52 PauseBreak wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:50 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:49 PauseBreak wrote:
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.

IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it


I'm not upset or anything. So don't take my posts the wrong way.

Idra calling people "faggots" is extremely offensive. If Alex was gay I garentee that Idra would get the boot fast than you can spell applesauce.

he already addressed idra. go read the other thread.


A mild scolding and firing someone is hardly the same thing.


Idra would not lie to Alex.
Snake.69
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada140 Posts
March 09 2012 06:09 GMT
#396
This sucks that some jealous ppl ruined this guys chance at a better life. But let that be a lesson to all of us: All our negative behavior will come back to hunt us down sooner or later. This is why you should always respect others.

I personally , especially lately, get really mad when i start losing a lot on the ladder. I will yell F*CK!! GOD DAMN and shit. I will call imbalance * Thats pretty balanced.* * thats so fucking overpowered** Etc. On a few occasions ive even told my opponents. * You fucking suck you only won cuz you got lucky and marines are fucking overpowered*.

But as mad as i get, not ONCE have I personnally attacked someone, or talked shit or harassed someone on the game, even if they bm me after game. I just put them on ignore, yelll fuck a couple times, and queue again lol.

The farthest ive went is to tell someone that they fucking sucked, thats it. I also do admit i swear more than i should, using words like FUCK and SHIT, but that is mostly because english is not my first language, and was mostly mastered while playing online game such as starcraft1.

One thing i tihnk is unfair tho, is i havent seem Orb stream above 400-500 viewers ever. Most of the ppl complaining probably never even watched his stream, they just heard it from someone, and since they were jealous at the golden opportunity orb was given, they started a huge propaganda to get him fired. His casting was really good, and would only have gotten better. He is the caster that reminds me the most of Artosis with his style. He has potential and i hope ppl will give him a chance in the future when all this is old news.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 09 2012 06:09 GMT
#397
On March 09 2012 13:24 Stormus wrote:
Don't worry Orb, now you can go back to doing gods work in your mother's basement. #LastedLongerThanIThought #HerPaintingsAreEvenWorseThanYourSC2skills

User was banned for this post.


Damn, looks like the reddit assholes are invading TL.
GranDGranT
Profile Joined April 2011
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
March 09 2012 06:09 GMT
#398
On March 09 2012 15:07 Doomwish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:04 GranDGranT wrote:
Come Cast Dota 2 Orb, Less Stuck up Fat nerds.


thanks for insulting the community on the community website....

I watched orbs stream months ago and was actually pretty surprised that he was let into the community as a caster.

Anyone who knew who this guy really was wouldn't be shocked an incident like this came up, it was just a matter of time.

Get some help Orb.


Community is clueless during times like this fat bro
All Dota 2 casters are bad at their job
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 06:10 GMT
#399
On March 09 2012 15:07 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:53 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:52 PauseBreak wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:50 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:49 PauseBreak wrote:
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.

IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it


I'm not upset or anything. So don't take my posts the wrong way.

Idra calling people "faggots" is extremely offensive. If Alex was gay I garentee that Idra would get the boot fast than you can spell applesauce.

he already addressed idra. go read the other thread.


A mild scolding and firing someone is hardly the same thing.

throwing a couple insults and throwing more intense insults and then lieing about it is also not the same thing
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
March 09 2012 06:11 GMT
#400
On March 09 2012 15:09 GranDGranT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:07 Doomwish wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:04 GranDGranT wrote:
Come Cast Dota 2 Orb, Less Stuck up Fat nerds.


thanks for insulting the community on the community website....

I watched orbs stream months ago and was actually pretty surprised that he was let into the community as a caster.

Anyone who knew who this guy really was wouldn't be shocked an incident like this came up, it was just a matter of time.

Get some help Orb.


Community is clueless during times like this fat bro


I'm not fat.. but thanks anyway.
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