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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 09 2012 05:44 GMT
#341
On March 09 2012 14:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:40 BthreeN wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:37 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:36 BthreeN wrote:
Just curious, can EG really fire him for this? Considering it happend prior to his employment with them. Would like to know if a contract existed.

i believe there was some incidents of it during his employment and he did lie alot about it during his employment as well and there was no apology


Thank you. I was under the impression that it all happend before.

It did.

From what I recall skimming those threads, every incident happened before he was with EG.
H0bgawblin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States109 Posts
March 09 2012 05:44 GMT
#342
The idea that the opportunity you worked so hard for was ripped away due to a mistake you made in the past leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I understand why EG had to let you go and why people are upset, but I really hope you get a second chance somewhere down the line.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 05:44 GMT
#343
i really hope by the end of tomorrow hes apologized about the lying im still clinging to the hope he overlooked it and went to bed
Heff87
Profile Joined November 2011
United States106 Posts
March 09 2012 05:45 GMT
#344
As someone who has made a similar mistake (though not to such a large audience) I can sympathize with you, sometimes words just come out in the heat of the moment and you don't really mean them 100%. Props for owning up to it and best of luck in the future bro.
VGTA
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 05:45 GMT
#345
On March 09 2012 14:44 ThaZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:40 BthreeN wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:37 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:36 BthreeN wrote:
Just curious, can EG really fire him for this? Considering it happend prior to his employment with them. Would like to know if a contract existed.

i believe there was some incidents of it during his employment and he did lie alot about it during his employment as well and there was no apology


Thank you. I was under the impression that it all happend before.

It did.

From what I recall skimming those threads, every incident happened before he was with EG.

from what i recall from skimming threads hes been known for raging at his chat and some of that happened while in the EG house (raging in ladder and at chat not the specific language)
JayKayJK
Profile Joined December 2010
126 Posts
March 09 2012 05:46 GMT
#346
On March 09 2012 13:19 Dexington wrote:
You are a great caster. It's a shame you were ruined by some kids that were jealous of your success.


Are you fucking kidding me with this?
pi_rate_pir_ate
Profile Joined April 2010
United States179 Posts
March 09 2012 05:46 GMT
#347
BTW, you are my favorite caster, I hope you try streaming even though you'll get flamed.
TheHansBecker
Profile Joined February 2011
United States117 Posts
March 09 2012 05:46 GMT
#348
--- Nuked ---
OrD_SC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States247 Posts
March 09 2012 05:46 GMT
#349
On March 09 2012 14:36 BthreeN wrote:
Just curious, can EG really fire him for this? Considering it happend prior to his employment with them. Would like to know if a contract existed.



A decent question, retro-active punishment sets a dangerous precedent. I had no idea this "incident" was from so far in the past [and yes when someone's less than 25 years old a few months is a long time to learn/grow/develop].

OrB, I think the lesson here is to admit your transgressions immediately. Its a lesson I'm still trying to teach myself... Good luck and remember "Failure is not final" [-Winston Churchill]
Baldie disapproved of my last status, TT
Dave-o
Profile Joined March 2012
United States26 Posts
March 09 2012 05:47 GMT
#350
On March 09 2012 14:40 peekn wrote:
Wait... so someone dug this up and posted it just to get stir the pot!? ARE YOU SERIOUS?! So someone out there went out of their way to find evidence against him, who did this long before he joined EG, just to get him in hot water?! That is unbelievable...sounds like some tabloid.

Thanks for the apology post. I will still be watching your casts and streams, haven't angered this fan.


I am guessing it was one of the people he BMed
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
March 09 2012 05:47 GMT
#351
On March 09 2012 13:23 pac.558 wrote:
good riddance racist kid, go back to your parents art studio's basement and jerk off onto a canvas

User was warned for this post


Of course your name is Pac hahahahaha
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
March 09 2012 05:47 GMT
#352
I hope you continue casting, you do a great job. Time heals all wounds and nothing you did warrants any further action by anyone. Take the consequences and come out the other side a little better. I hope you can one day look back (while you cast for hundreds of thousands of people ) at this event and realize that it helped make you better.

Good luck orb.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
March 09 2012 05:48 GMT
#353
Sorry to see you lose your job.
In all honestly, its a load of horse crap that they let you go over this. The fact that many people within that company use offensive language when they stream, in person, what ever... And you are the scape goat. If anything they should have treated you like they treat everyone else.

The truth of the matter though, this will blow over. And you will get another casting job. As far as your casts, what EG and the rest of the world should be worried about, they are quality and fantastic.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
PauseBreak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 05:50:54
March 09 2012 05:49 GMT
#354
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. (Not to mention Incontrol has terrible language as well) EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 05:50 GMT
#355
On March 09 2012 14:49 PauseBreak wrote:
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.

IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it
eNbee
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium487 Posts
March 09 2012 05:52 GMT
#356
On March 09 2012 14:42 Argolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:38 eNbee wrote:
I really don't understand all these posts about "He didn't do anything wrong" "fuck reddit for making this happen".

Fuck reddit? No no no my friends, it, it's childish and disgusting behavior. The internet is a great tool for so many reasons, allowing people to behave like this is not one of them.

On top of that Orb blatantly lied about the accusations and tried to worm his way out of them, before finally coming clean and posting a half-hearted apology, which didn't mention anything about his lies by the way.

Good riddance Orb, and Orb-defenders : what is wrong with you?


Please define the word nigger and explain how it is the "foulest language". I don't see why the community is so hyper sensitive to the word when it's used in a setting like a sc2 ladder game to an anonymous opponent but words like rape, faggot, retard etc aren't an issue at all.



The intent of the way he uses it is obviously to be as hurtful as possible, I'm not saying it's "the one insult to rule them all".

People hiding behind anonymity on the internet without fear of repercussions, acting out in a way they would never in person, is a plague. I'm glad finally someone got punished for this, publicly. The kind of people that act like this, do it exactly because they can get away with it. Why should we condone this?

I imagine the majority of people defending Orb, to be people who act just like him, and don't like this "dangerous" precedent.
hmmmm
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
March 09 2012 05:52 GMT
#357
On March 09 2012 14:50 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:49 PauseBreak wrote:
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.

IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it


No he just says "fuck you" on a televised stream. And uses obscene gestures at live events.
PauseBreak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 05:55:51
March 09 2012 05:52 GMT
#358
On March 09 2012 14:50 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:49 PauseBreak wrote:
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.

IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it


I'm not upset or anything. So don't take my posts the wrong way.

Idra calling people "faggots" is extremely offensive. If Alex was gay I garentee that Idra would get the boot faster than you can spell 'applesauce'.
LeaF_SD
Profile Joined March 2009
United States113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 05:55:20
March 09 2012 05:53 GMT
#359
What lost me all respect for you (if I had any) was not that you said what you said, but you tried to cover it up and play this community like a bunch of 3 year olds. Its really sad actually, you should've came clean when the allegations came up. I don't know how people are still with you even though you lied to them straight up. This is the type of personality that shouldn't be in this community.

I might not have the same opinions about the word "n----" as most people, but the reason you should have gotten into trouble was because you lied to your boss, the people you represented and everyone else.
"Idra did tremendously well, and he didn't even call the woman a faggot once" - floor exercise
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
March 09 2012 05:53 GMT
#360
*pukes* I was hoping this kind of shit had already been puked out of the scene but apparantly not!
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