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On March 08 2012 01:21 ETisME wrote:
Guys, show some respect please.
Jessica can post whatever the crap she wants with twitter. If Jessica represent a negative image to SlayerS team, Golden and Violet won't contact her.
She is an actress, a pretty famous one and also being boxer's GF, do you really think she won't know anything about Public reputation and need to "Take some course in PR training?"
Asia culture values relationship much more than western culture which emphasis on contact conditions.
It hurts me to see how many people here just judging Jessica because they don't understand there is a cultural difference.
They aren't afraid to tell out their thoughts, Naniwa was criticized on twitter as well by Mr Chae as well.
I don't see why you bring up her being famous as though it really means anything in regards to her ability to handle the PR of a Starcraft team, particularly when she has a track record of behaving childishly on her twitter and lashing out at people constantly.
Citing cultural differences doesn't really work for me either I'm afraid, there are plenty of coaches in the Korean scene who have gone basically drama free for as long as I can remember. Despite players leaving and joining, they've managed to remain professional, Jessica calls her players out when they leave, and acts the victim if she gets accused of taking players.
It's getting old and it's part of the reason why I've lost interest in SlayerS.
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On March 08 2012 01:21 ETisME wrote:
Guys, show some respect please.
Jessica can post whatever the crap she wants with twitter. If Jessica represent a negative image to SlayerS team, Golden and Violet won't contact her.
She is an actress, a pretty famous one and also being boxer's GF, do you really think she won't know anything about Public reputation and need to "Take some course in PR training?"
Asia culture values relationship much more than western culture which emphasis on contact conditions.
It hurts me to see how many people here just judging Jessica because they don't understand there is a cultural difference.
They aren't afraid to tell out their thoughts, Naniwa was criticized on twitter as well by Mr Chae as well.
It is Jessica who should think about the cultural difference when she is tweeting in English. Which started all this fiasco and made people translate her posts.
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I'm pretty sure it would be better for SlayerS if Jessica stopped doing this. : (
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So wait, she is concerned that Dragon might make slayers look bad so she shits on him using twitter?
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From the other thread:
On March 07 2012 17:07 KawaiiRice wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 17:01 Corrosive wrote:
As far as i know dragon had a change of heart when he realized that he actually would like to play sc2 professionally after leaving slayers. so he searched for a team. I don't really even know how much dragon was involved with slayers. He seemed like an independant entity to me. He participated in ONE team league for slayers? and he never stayed in the house right? seems like a gigantic overreaction. o_o based on these two tweets I really doubt he just changed his mind... just look at the dates. dragon can do what he wants, but there is probably truth to what jessica is saying.
The tweets:
i leave SlayersTeam T_T
Jan 16th
1~2month wait team offer T_T
Feb 16th
From Liquipedia:
After Dragon was accused of maphacking, streamcheating and match fixing on PlayXP-forums[10], he then replied that "he was sorry for what he had done" but didn't go into detail which parts of the allegations were true. Furthermore he stated that he would “never dream of other tournaments, televised matches, or pursue a career as a pro-gamer.”
After getting eliminated by NesTea in the first round (of Open season 3), he wrote an apology for breaking his earlier promise.
This isn't even the first time Dragon has "changed his mind." I hope he does well as long it's on the level. I doubt Dragon has any malicious intent, but in Jessica's words, he's a "kid," and if he's maturing, it's been awfully slow.
Also consider the fact that SlayerS was the team to give him a second chance in Korea.
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The victim card is getting kind of old
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I think Dragon did it to get in a as Millenium. I think Jessica is right its not nice of him but i think this rage is even more un nicer but like somedays after he left Slayers i saw in his status : looking for team. But Dragon is like that and thats why i love him xD
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On March 08 2012 01:12 StimFesT wrote:
I dont think dragon lied because he wanted to get off the SlayerS team. People change their minds all the time
Why wouldn't he tell Slayers first?
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On March 07 2012 22:40 Hus wrote:Show nested quote +[Yeah, European culture used to be all about honor and tradition and respecting authority too. And that culminated in millions upon millions of people marched into trenches to die for "honor and loyalty" in the name of King and country.
Just because something is cultural doesn't make it right and immune to criticism. European culture has at no point in history been even close to being similar to eastern cultures.
That's not what my video games say!
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On March 08 2012 01:53 Chunhyang wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 01:12 StimFesT wrote:
I dont think dragon lied because he wanted to get off the SlayerS team. People change their minds all the time Why wouldn't he tell Slayers first?
Equally why would he? Its not like he's on the team anymore and hasnt been for a while.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:56 BigLighthouse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 01:53 Chunhyang wrote:On March 08 2012 01:12 StimFesT wrote:
I dont think dragon lied because he wanted to get off the SlayerS team. People change their minds all the time Why wouldn't he tell Slayers first? Equally why would he? Its not like he's on the team anymore and hasnt been for a while.
When Dragon left he didn't tell SlayerS directly, and only posted on Twitter that he had left. Dragon also said it was because he wanted to take SC2 only as a hobby and not as a professional. The "lie" being talked about is Dragon's reason for leaving SlayerS. He was contracted to the team, I believe, so to terminate that contract there had to be a legitimate reason (moving to another team is not, but can be considered if the teams agree), so Dragon supposedly lied to get out of that contract. Soon after he was proven to be looking for a new team. If his intention was to move to another team, he should have told SlayerS first so that they could have arranged a more amicable transfer. Instead Dragon got out of his contract with a "made up excuse" (according to most informed sources).
So yes, he was wrong for what he did and should have told SlayerS the real reason.
It is unfortunate though, because we are dealing with children (teenagers) who've yet to go to university or work full time (I assume for most) so many do not understand the value and significance of contracts and professionalism.
I hope he matures and continues to improve.
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He left the team, goofed around for a while, then joined a new team after he decided he wanted to play seriously again. Nothing to be upset about.
Jessica is and always has been really dramatic.
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I mean come on, maybe he could not find a job and he is REALLY good at sc2. A team offered him a spot, with Money, he took it. I know the Slayers team is a family and they care about each other A LOT, but sometimes life happens and things happen differently then what people initially said at the time! Too much drama imo also...
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that why most of you(Westerner) don't understand us(Easterner) -"-
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On March 07 2012 17:09 johnnywup wrote:
jessica needs to stop responding publicly to this stuff >_>
pretty this, I don't think some of his tweets should be public...
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And for quite a while there boxer was doing a good job keeping jessica away from the computer/twitter. I really like slayers, but jessicas constant aggressive tweeting really makes me not like her, and by proximity like slayers less.
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At least she means what she says and doesn't delete tweets like Chris Brown.
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I think Dragon really did leave Slayers to start working and he did for awhile. I think the support he got from his viewers when he started streaming again around November of last year renewed his passion and confidence and made him want to pursue a competitive career again. It's pretty simple really. I don't think Dragon had joining a foreign team in mind or when he left Slayers.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On March 08 2012 02:23 Clayton77 wrote:
I think Dragon really did leave Slayers to start working and he did for awhile. I think the support he got from his viewers when he started streaming again around November of last year renewed his passion and confidence and made him want to pursue a competitive career again. It's pretty simple really. I don't think Dragon had joining a foreign team in mind or when he left Slayers.
If you look a few posts above you, there is a post that shows that Dragon was looking for a team 1 month after leaving SlayerS
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On March 08 2012 02:23 Clayton77 wrote:
I think Dragon really did leave Slayers to start working and he did for awhile. I think the support he got from his viewers when he started streaming again around November of last year renewed his passion and confidence and made him want to pursue a competitive career again. It's pretty simple really. I don't think Dragon had joining a foreign team in mind or when he left Slayers.
Then you haven't been paying attention. Dragon tweeted about his search for a foreign team almost right after leaving SlayerS, tweeted how hard it was to find a foreign team and even said so on his stream. Whatever you think of the tweets, Dragon definitely lied to Jessica about his reasons for leaving.
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