PLayhem TV Disgrace Katu - Page 31

On February 29 2012 06:03 SaroVati wrote:
I agree Katu made a mistake, but seriously people. If Dragon wasn't stream cheating (and based on the common opinion, his 3k viewers don't think he did), he wouldn't even care about what the casters say. I've had many casted games where the casters are either making fun of / ridiculing my play even though they are clearly no where near the same skill level. All I can say is: Deal with it. If the player isn't even outwardly angry about it, why are his fans attempting to butcher a poor caster who is HELPING you watch and enjoy the game? He is a professional (this is debatable because I doubt he makes too much money either), and this is unacceptable, but seriously people.

I'm depressed as to how a section of the community so quickly jumps on a guys ass for one mistake. It's not like he lied about anything either.... Dragon HAS been known to have stream cheated, and although he is insinuating things that may not be true, he shouldn't be nailed to a cross.

On February 29 2012 06:13 m4inbrain wrote:


I just read the first 10 pages, and it pretty much sums it up, if you consider all the "i will enver wathc palyhem again!1!".

On February 29 2012 06:09 m4inbrain wrote:


Second: Dragon. I know, fanboys will jump me like a horny virgin, but: while i think its a generous offer from playhem to pay hotel and whatnot, he does NOT deserve it. Fact is, he cheated. Not 10 years ago in brood war, but in SC2. He said he will never play "pro" again, yet here he is. Playing "pro" again. Funny thing is, he didnt get severly punished for the cheating, because everyone took his word for granted, that he would stop playing SC competetively.

The starcraft-community is really getting ridiculous, its not even funny anymore.

On February 29 2012 05:37 Demolicious wrote:



Firstly you couldnt seem to get over the fact that the 3 orbital strat can beat an all in. FYI this is a successful strat was started by MVP many many months ago. You mentioned it quite a few times and couldn't seem to fathom why it was working.

- 24 is still young

-you did well to save yourself in the heat of the moment

-dont give me this witch hunt BS, I'm standing up for the player who was unable to defend himself while he was getting backstabbed by a caster who is a member of a professional organisation.

On February 29 2012 06:18 Tuplag wrote:


He got kicked out of this current team at the time, WeRRa. If that isn't a severe punishment then I don't know what is. What did you expect him to do, commit seppuku?

On February 29 2012 05:43 matiK23 wrote:
Artosis realizes that AS A CASTER YOUR JOB IS TO CaST AND ANALYZE the game playing, NOT to troll the chat and slander a participant. You can't take the heat? Then get out the kitchen. Watch the VODs and tell me if Katu's behavior is acceptable in an actual professional sports cast? Can you imagine the outrage if a broadcaster did the same thing as Katu, to X athlete?

On February 29 2012 05:43 matiK23 wrote:
I'm going to say what I said in the playhem thread because people are derping way too much and don't seem to get it through their thick heads, on both sides.

"Leave Katu alone! He's not a douche bag in real life!" "Redditor pitchforks never watched Katu until now, they just don't get his personality!"

So pathetic how your personal relationships blind you from the bigger picture, which is to make esports into a more serious, reputable event to the mainstream. You want to see Starcraft on your tv? So do I, but this type of slandering is unacceptable. If you don't mind this type of trolling, that's fine but don't think e sports will become reality if you tolerate this type of behavior.

Artosis, on SOTG, once talked about how players in the lobby would bash him for delay of game or whatever. That of course would put him in a bad mood but Artosis sucks it up and casts the game and has to be unbiased and not slander TE player who just bashed him. Artosis realizes that AS A CASTER YOUR JOB IS TO CaST AND ANALYZE the game playing, NOT to troll the chat and slander a participant. You can't take the heat? Then get out the kitchen. Watch the VODs and tell me if Katu's behavior is acceptable in an actual professional sports cast? Can you imagine the outrage if a broadcaster did the same thing as Katu, to X athlete?

But you say esports isnt even that big yet do Katu can act this way. Like I said I don't care if you accept t, but don't expect "e-sports" to go anywhere. More than half of all these posts and so called counter arguments are laughable and not even remotely feasible, just retarded opinions that are as bad as reddit pitchforks.

Edit: I say both sides are bad because pitchforks are extreme and I believe Katu deserves a second chance with time

Edit: iPhone has the worst keyboard and the most retarded spellcheck

On February 29 2012 06:20 Oreo7 wrote:
Why does he keep saying he was joking or trolling? It didn't seem that way to me at all. I heard someone accusing Dragon of cheating....

On February 29 2012 04:55 zefreak wrote:


Boy, thats a great attitude. Once a cheater always a cheater? People never change or reform right? Let me guess, you support the death penalty too?

On February 29 2012 06:22 StarStrider wrote:
Also, people are saying the problem with this is that it delegitimizes SC2 as a sport. On sports talk shows (that are known for being sans-fluff) they discuss baseball players that have been known to roid up all the time. Do those players still roid? Some may, some may not, but if they did, their name is tarnished and no one thinks it's taboo to talk or joke about it even if they are cleaning their act up. In basketball all sports shows talked about Kobe's off the court problems for the longest time. If you have cheated, your name becomes associated with cheating. Forever. Sorry. That's how it is. Pete Rose from baseball will never be known as a great baseball player even though he was a great player. You say the difference is Katu is supposed to be like Al Michaels or John Madden during a game, and not like a talk show host? I say bullshit, every SC2 cast is both play by play, analysis, and also SC2 related commentary and entertainment. It's REALLY not that serious. It was wrong, and he should feel sorry about it, and he does. That's it. There is no need for all this other drama. And there is definitely no need for Playhem to over-respond like they did. I will not respect Dragon as much if he takes Playhem up on their offer.