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Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
February 28 2012 19:58 GMT
#561
This controversy has done Dragon a hell of a lot of good anyway - 3800 stream viewers! Haven't seen it that high in ages.
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Phenrock
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom132 Posts
February 28 2012 19:58 GMT
#562
Not that my opinion matters now, but from my point of view after watching the VOD, it does seem like it's been blown out of proportion. Now I've never watched the Playhem stream, only players stream when they play on Playhem. Katu seems like a pretty decent caster.

It was very unprofessional and there was also a touch of arrogance which I didn't like, and I don't think the chat liked. I do find the occasional troll quite funny, but that's behind the safety of the internet, or you do it amongst friends that can take it and not directly at your audience or the player you're casting.

It is such a shame though, because I can see personality there and potential to be a good caster. Seems like a mate I'd hang out with. Hope this is a lesson learnt here and that he'll bounce back much like Dragon.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 28 2012 19:59 GMT
#563
On February 29 2012 04:39 IMStyle wrote:
it doesnt matter how much work a police officer puts in to serve the community. Try shooting an innocent bystander because he was caught stealing from you a year ago, because you thought he looked like he was up to no good. See how forgiving the community is. Of course if he told the community he was just trolling, 5percent of the population will forgive him.

Did you just compare verbal comments to a police officer shooting someone?
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
February 28 2012 20:00 GMT
#564
Doesn't surprise me that it's Katu causing controversy.
He's never been someone with respect for players. I believe once he even admitted on stream that he's a bit of a douche.

It's a shame he's allowed to cast high quality (game/player wise) events like the KSL, as well as things like Playhem which usually have top level players as well.
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Legion710
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada423 Posts
February 28 2012 20:01 GMT
#565
I know Katu in real life. I even drove to MLG Raleigh with him. I can tell you that he's not an ass hole and that I'm sure he means well. No, I don't agree with his behavior in this incident, of course not. But people need to understand that most SC2 casters are NOT professionals, have no real training and above all, in most cases, are not even paid. Therefore, you just cannot have the same expectations and standards towards casters in established professional sports. That's just retarded. He is human and he will fuck up, just like everybody else.

Most people do what they do here because they just love starcraft. You are all bringing out the pitchforks in a disproportionate way. Yeah he fucked up, and he probably will never do that again. But seriously, calm the fuck down. Personally, my only thought would be "Ouch, that was dumb, he should probably realize his mistake and apologize."

And debating Dragon's legitimacy is just completely irrelevant.
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
February 28 2012 20:02 GMT
#566
On February 29 2012 04:45 giX wrote:
this is why you don't get too drunk when your casting =[

i agree its stupid and unprofessional. There should be punishment handed out regardless. With no factual evidence he has hes tarnishing a top players reputation for selfish reasons and is representing playhemtv at the same time
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Kryptonite
Profile Joined June 2010
United States155 Posts
February 28 2012 20:06 GMT
#567
I'm very curious the viewer numbers before and after this incident. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually go up from all the publicity, negative or not.
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
February 28 2012 20:09 GMT
#568
welll stream cheating doesn't really work anyway the first time i got casted on playhem after i lost i went to the stream and its like a 3 minute delay. but anyway those were some unprofessional comments
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 28 2012 20:10 GMT
#569
On February 29 2012 05:09 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
welll stream cheating doesn't really work anyway the first time i got casted on playhem after i lost i went to the stream and its like a 3 minute delay. but anyway those were some unprofessional comments

No, Playhem streams are definitely 100% live (I've casted them and talked in chat in real time).
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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
February 28 2012 20:12 GMT
#570
great objective post

i see that you were being totally professional writing this as your first post and totally kept you emotions out of it
you didn't insult the caster either really nice /sarcasm

no srsly i see that it was a bad thing for him to talk about dragon like that but you guys need to take that less seriously

those casters are just doing this for fun and it's great that they sacrifice their time to cast this daily tournament where up-and-coming players can get used to competitive play and meet some of the big names if they get lucky

you can complain all you want if someone on the MLG 20$ paystream says something like that and you can talk about how they don't know much about the game anyways and critizize them all you want because they are probably being more serious about what they are doing than those guys at playhem are

just don't be to serious about what is going on on a stream of a daily tournament cause tbh.... you don't actually care about it right?
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 28 2012 20:13 GMT
#571
On February 29 2012 05:01 Legion710 wrote:
I know Katu in real life. I even drove to MLG Raleigh with him. I can tell you that he's not an ass hole and that I'm sure he means well. No, I don't agree with his behavior in this incident, of course not. But people need to understand that most SC2 casters are NOT professionals, have no real training and above all, in most cases, are not even paid. Therefore, you just cannot have the same expectations and standards towards casters in established professional sports. That's just retarded. He is human and he will fuck up, just like everybody else.

Most people do what they do here because they just love starcraft. You are all bringing out the pitchforks in a disproportionate way. Yeah he fucked up, and he probably will never do that again. But seriously, calm the fuck down. Personally, my only thought would be "Ouch, that was dumb, he should probably realize his mistake and apologize."

And debating Dragon's legitimacy is just completely irrelevant.

when you are representing an organization you have to be professional. When you are speaking about other players in front of many viewers you have to be professional. What the foreigner scene lacks compared to korea is that same professionalism.
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
February 28 2012 20:13 GMT
#572
On February 29 2012 05:10 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 05:09 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
welll stream cheating doesn't really work anyway the first time i got casted on playhem after i lost i went to the stream and its like a 3 minute delay. but anyway those were some unprofessional comments

No, Playhem streams are definitely 100% live (I've casted them and talked in chat in real time).

oh maybe its just me then
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See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
February 28 2012 20:13 GMT
#573
Honestly, despite all the stuff that happened, really impressed with Playhem's response. That's not insignificant money to pony up, they seem serious about making amends. Respect in my book.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 28 2012 20:13 GMT
#574
They seem to have, unfortunately everyone in chat is talking about the incident. Dragon actually seems to be the only person who doesn't really care.

To clarify, I am giving Katu a second chance and think others should as well. After all, if people didn't get second chances nobody would be Dragon's fan to begin with. I just think its a shame that incorrect information got out to people that will probably think Dragon is constantly stream cheating (thats what he makes it seem like, for sure) and that he just got kicked out of slayers for doing it. That is legitimately tarnishing his reputation, and the fact that Katu's apology doesn't actually rectify this, but merely makes excuses (pretending it was all a joke when it obviously wasn't initially) is a shame.

I don't hate the guy but he should really deliver a second apology. One that fixes the incorrect and misleading statements made about Dragon should be the minimum.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 28 2012 20:15 GMT
#575
Well, if we follow the same standard as Dragon got, Katu can make a half-ass apology and everyone will forget about it in a few weeks.

Of course, people seem to have a greater penchant for harassing casters than players, especially Korean ones.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Janders
Profile Joined June 2011
Mexico222 Posts
February 28 2012 20:19 GMT
#576
too much drama
:D
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 28 2012 20:20 GMT
#577
On February 29 2012 05:15 Jerubaal wrote:
Well, if we follow the same standard as Dragon got, Katu can make a half-ass apology and everyone will forget about it in a few weeks.



I wouldn't have it any other way
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ropumar
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil111 Posts
February 28 2012 20:20 GMT
#578
Most people raising pitchforks against Katu dont even watch Playhem daily.

Katu is one of the best caster Playhem has. SAVE KATU.

Leave KATU alone!!!
Destriel
Profile Joined October 2011
41 Posts
February 28 2012 20:22 GMT
#579
this isnt worth the attention its getting. im all for good drama, this is grasping at straws. dont like him, dont watch him.
IMStyle
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada52 Posts
February 28 2012 20:22 GMT
#580
On February 29 2012 04:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 04:39 IMStyle wrote:
it doesnt matter how much work a police officer puts in to serve the community. Try shooting an innocent bystander because he was caught stealing from you a year ago, because you thought he looked like he was up to no good. See how forgiving the community is. Of course if he told the community he was just trolling, 5percent of the population will forgive him.

Did you just compare verbal comments to a police officer shooting someone?


Why not, the person who got shot didnt die.
Katu tried to kill dragons name. Obviously people who were already fans or know about the incident know that katu was retarded and wont be affected by his comments. but as you can see in this thread, lots of people believe what katu say is true, and now more people are even accusing dragon of stream cheating. Trying to destroy someones career is much worse then being shot and injured.
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