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Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
February 28 2012 17:46 GMT
#461
Amateur tournament with amateur caster making amateur jokes about amateur player.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
February 28 2012 17:46 GMT
#462
Was Katu's argument that he didn't realize how badly people reacted to it? I just saw a bit, and all he did was giggle and mention how hilarious the chat was. He didn't seem to realize there was anything but a chat going on.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 17:48:54
February 28 2012 17:48 GMT
#463
On February 29 2012 02:42 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 02:41 Megaliskuu wrote:
Lol the classic "I was trolling" to hide the fact he was being a douche.

I heard he came back 15 minutes later and said he obviously wasn't trolling and made a mistake. No sure if that's true but I saw it on Reddit.


Haha could be true, but that sentence looks like "Believe me! Or not! But you can check for yourself: its on TMZ!"
월요 날 재미있
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 17:52:24
February 28 2012 17:49 GMT
#464
regarding the 3rd CC... isn't it acceptable that he messed up his build which caused a mineral pile up? preparing for reactor hellion and then being unable to switch the factory will almost always cause a huge macro botch up similar to toss/zerg going to expand and finding an engineering bay blocking their natural.

if you've got >400 minerals and not enough infrastructure, placing another CC is a risky but effective solution - if it works.

then with the CC he didn't have minerals to support reactor hellions, so he got tech lab.

you can't exactly get extra queens, depots, pylons or gateways etc - because using 4-5 scv's to simultaneously build drops you even further behind in economy.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 17:51:06
February 28 2012 17:49 GMT
#465
wrong thread ><
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
February 28 2012 17:51 GMT
#466
"I'm pretty proud of myself I've got to say" *laughing hysterically*
Pretty much sums it all up pretty much.
I guess Katu did not think through why he would put down a third CC if he knew an all-in was coming.
The thing that bugs me the most is the fact that he seems to revel in the fact that he acts like an asshole. Good on you Katu, I once liked you but if you are that keen to be the villain, then I will hate you.
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
skYfiVe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States382 Posts
February 28 2012 17:51 GMT
#467
On February 29 2012 02:42 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 02:41 Megaliskuu wrote:
Lol the classic "I was trolling" to hide the fact he was being a douche.

I heard he came back 15 minutes later and said he obviously wasn't trolling and made a mistake. No sure if that's true but I saw it on Reddit.


He continued insisting people couldn't understand that he was just trolling dragon throughout the rest of the cast from what I heard.

Honestly, it was blown way out of proportion but I think it happened because Katu didn't just immediately accept responsibility for saying something stupid. Had he immediately apologized sincerely for insulting Dragon all night and admitted to being serious (which he clearly was, since he had a lot of emotion in his voice when trashing Dragon). For some reason Katu just hates Dragon and he used his casting pedastal to take a shot at him. He messed up once big time when he was in Werra and was kicked because of it. Had Katu not said completely false info like he was kicked out of SlayerS, etc. it wouldn't be a big deal.

He brought this upon himself cause he couldn't set his ego aside to admit he said something stupid. That said, if he ever comes out and admits he wasn't just "trolling", I see no reason why everyone else shouldn't accept his apology.
"1baseiwa"
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
February 28 2012 17:52 GMT
#468
I heard it live and I though Katu was serious, he seemed to go on and on about it for 5-10 minutes.... then suddenly he flipped and was SO sorry.

It was weird.

He really just hurt himself though, I'm not mad at him.

No damage done, other than to Katu himself. Dragon comes off looking extremely popular and with an invite to IPL4.... so huge win for him.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 17:55:29
February 28 2012 17:54 GMT
#469
We are pissed about that? Now I didn't watch all of it. just the first game on bel'shir beach (and like 5 min after that), but thats just a bit of trash talk going on. I mean if this was a major tournament I could see why this thread got 24 pages, but it's just a daily. Yes he kinda accussed him of stream cheating, but reading some of this thread makes it sound like he commited something really terrible. Yes it's unprofessional, and given how well mannered the starcraft community is I guess dragon deserves an apology from katu, but for people to ask for playhem to kick katu and for playhem to offer dragon sponsorship for ipl now, I don't know seems a bit to much for me.
Then again I didn't see the point in revoking a code s spot from naniwa for probe rushing either, so maybe I just hold different values coming from the halo community.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
February 28 2012 17:56 GMT
#470
On February 29 2012 02:54 Lorch wrote:
We are pissed about that? Now I didn't watch all of it. just the first game on bel'shir beach (and like 5 min after that), but thats just a bit of trash talk going on. I mean if this was a major tournament I could see why this thread got 24 pages, but it's just a daily. Yes he kinda accussed him of stream cheating, but reading some of this thread makes it sound like he commited something really terrible. Yes it's unprofessional, and given how well mannered the starcraft community is I guess dragon deserves and apology from katu, but for people to ask for playhem to kick katu and for playhem to offer dragon sponsorship for ipl now, I don't know seems a bit to much for me.
Then again I didn't see the point in revoking a code s spot from naniwa for probe rushing either, so maybe I just hold different values coming from the halo community.


This sums up my mindset perfectly.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 28 2012 17:57 GMT
#471
On February 29 2012 02:44 Longshank wrote:
Regarding Dragon's actions in the past, the fact that he received Boxer's seal of approval after that makes in a non-issue for me. Who am I to question the Emperor's judgement especially regarding a person he knows while I do not. It's not like he's known for a lenient view on cheaters and unsportsmanlike behavior.


When both Boxer and Cella defend someone's character, you should probably give them the benefit of the doubt
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caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 18:00:47
February 28 2012 17:58 GMT
#472
I've never really liked Katu, I saw the cast, and it fits with what bugs me about him. I've always thought he was kind of an egomaniac, so much of what he says I feel can be paraphrased 'Im awesome, so whatever I say is fine and great and it just makes me more awesome' when in reality it often seems like he is completely oblivious to anyone else that he interacts with-- this cast just fits the pattern to a T.

Some people might like the confidence, but it bugs me. Confidence is a positive trait, confidence which comes from being oblivious to others is the line where it isn't. Just my opinion.

To his credit, he did apologize.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
February 28 2012 18:01 GMT
#473
Katu shouldn't have said those things, but the OP is way overreacting. So much drama over so little, I would prefer if it stayed on Reddit.
Random master race
ropumar
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil111 Posts
February 28 2012 18:03 GMT
#474
People overreacting. Katu was trolling.

Was a tongue in the cheek comment. He already apologized for people offended.

There is nothing more to it.

People is being to sensitive. I think is a vocal minority that are being so outrageous by some light hearted trolling.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
February 28 2012 18:05 GMT
#475
Man, I came into this thread expecting drama. I want a refund.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
February 28 2012 18:06 GMT
#476
WHAT IF KATU
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WAS TRYING TO GET DRAGON MORE POPULAR

User was warned for this post
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 18:07:38
February 28 2012 18:07 GMT
#477
It's just unprofessional, it's not like he went on a racist rant about Koreans in general. However, he clearly wasn't "just trolling," that's fucking ridiculous if you actually listen to the VOD.

He (for whatever reason) is pissed off by Dragon (or was pissed off in that moment with Dragon), and he chose a public tournament stream to voice his opinions.

Just suspend him for 2 weeks and be done with it, if he's stupid enough to do this kind of thing again he'll get what he deserves.
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
Mrbustanut
Profile Joined May 2010
121 Posts
February 28 2012 18:08 GMT
#478
Katu's casting is just bad in general. Hopefully we can get a replacement.
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
February 28 2012 18:08 GMT
#479
So can we call Dragon a cheater if we dont cast his games ?

he was just expressing his freedom of speech , and trolling the chat , Artosis never called anyone a cheater but he already trolled lots of players and ive never seen a rant post about that...

Please calm down , because TMZ is another website
ja foste
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 18:11:11
February 28 2012 18:09 GMT
#480
On February 29 2012 03:03 ropumar wrote:
People overreacting. Katu was trolling.

Was a tongue in the cheek comment. He already apologized for people offended.

There is nothing more to it.

People is being to sensitive. I think is a vocal minority that are being so outrageous by some light hearted trolling.


It's true, to Katu, he was doing 'light-hearted trolling', he wasn't intending to cause problems, but trolling when you're a faceless member of a forum and trolling when you're casting as a quasi-public figure are two very different things.

As a public figure, you can't act exactly the same way as you do when you're joking around with friends. I personally don't think he's intentionally being malicious, but you need to adopt a certain professionality when you deal with 'the public'. Individuals might have different opinions, for example, that what he said was fine, but 'the public' has literally every opinion, and if you don't want to provoke an outrage, you can't act like he did. If you're representing an organization, you can't afford to provoke outrage directed at your organization, very very basic PR.
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