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Rabbet
Canada404 Posts
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Xelnas
Canada65 Posts
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FishStix
United States425 Posts
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
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Rabbet
Canada404 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:41 ninjamyst wrote: IPL is just so awesome, especially when compared to the crap that's MLG. You got my $5.00. One question, does this apply to daily shows too? I think so "This package will cover ALL of our events, whether they are online, or live. Regardless of whether they are in North America, or anywhere in the world. There will be no additional fees, period." | ||
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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sephuys
United States43 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:25 ShAdZ_ZX wrote: We as esports fans should care. In the interest of growing this sport, we shouldn't be putting MLG in a negative light next to IPL simply because IPL is willing to give us an amazing deal. IGN can afford to put a lot of money into IPL and not expect immediate profits, because there will be more and more money coming to the industry in the future. MLG made the mistake of making a price point that's two high and I think IPL's is definitely too low. I worded that a little bad, I do care, I just dont care for how MLG handled their last event, I don't dislike MLG and love esports. I was really just trying to say that we shouldn't need to know the background of company's and such to decide if we want to purchase their product. If the price is good and the quality is good, we will buy it. And IPL's quality has been amazing since the start. | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
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LoB
United Kingdom32 Posts
PPV model has been done once, their is no supply and demand data on what the ideal price point is for maximum coverage to the most consumers. We know what the freemium data is and we know based on e-sports as a whole the gerneralized demographic. So there is no supply & demand for PPV yet v(my point). MLG did a straight up PPV model, IPL is doing a subscription-based model. There is no comparison between companies or strategy and as Shadz said to bad mouth one over the other is immature and so is making up false figures to argue with, which is why I said what I said. Tdt when you learn what generalizing means, I might acknowledge one of your posts but you continue to throw insults in the way of discussion so I still consider you an idiot and from what you have written I can't see past that assumption sorry. Maeph interesting point and I take on board what you say. Sephyus yeah I retract what I said before it was just worded badly. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
Where do I pay? IPL showing MLG how to do it. | ||
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ShAdZ_ZX
Australia635 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:45 sephuys wrote: I worded that a little bad, I do care, I just dont care for how MLG handled their last event, I don't dislike MLG and love esports. I was really just trying to say that we shouldn't need to know the background of company's and such to decide if we want to purchase their product. If the price is good and the quality is good, we will buy it. And IPL's quality has been amazing since the start. I agree completely, MLG did handle it pretty sloppily. I just hope people don't expect these sort of prices in all of the big tournaments this year. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
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ShAdZ_ZX
Australia635 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:48 LoB wrote: Right i'll explain to orracle and tdt this last time. PPV model has been done once, their is no supply and demand data on what the ideal price point is for maximum coverage to the most consumers. We know what the freemium data is and we know based on e-sports as a whole the gerneralized demographic. So there is no supply & demand for PPV yet v(my point). MLG did a straight up PPV model, IPL is doing a subscription-based model. There is no comparison between companies or strategy and as Shadz said to bad mouth one over the other is immature and so is making up false figures to argue with, which is why I said what I said. Tdt when you learn what generalizing means, I might acknowledge one of your posts but you continue to throw insults in the way of discussion so I still consider you an idiot and from what you have written I can't see past that assumption sorry. Maeph interesting point and I take on board what you say. Sephyus yeah I retarct what I said before it was just worded badly. Well I didn't exactly say that. I just don't like that people are looking down at MLG's cost which, even though many people consider over priced, are still closer to a reasonable price than $5 for a months worth of content. As I said before, IPL can afford to take it as slow as they want because of their financial backing, so I just don't want people to think that $5 is 'fair', because it is in fact a great deal for consumers but not one we should expect often in the future. | ||
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LoB
United Kingdom32 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:57 ShAdZ_ZX wrote: Well I didn't exactly say that. I just don't like that people are looking down at MLG's cost which, even though many people consider over priced, is still closer to a reasonable price than $5 for a months worth of content. As I said before, IPL can afford to take it as slow as they want because of their financial backing, so I just don't want people to think that $5 is 'fair', because it is in fact a great deal for consumers but not one we should expect in the future. I know they have undercut the current competition to get a influx of subscribers then in the future they can raise the price to fit more in line with a more sustainable model. I don't expect future tournaments to even come close to this price due to the financial backing IPL has through the brand IGN. | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
that list of players is ridiculous. | ||
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Meaph
Germany53 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:48 LoB wrote: PPV model has been done once, their is no supply and demand data on what the ideal price point is for maximum coverage to the most consumers. Well there are the words i searched for an advanced explanation of the point i made up before, but my english sucked to hard  If you have no available data on the price in the case of mlg i tell you this: im sure they knew about the costumer satisfaction, and if they did their homeworks they also have reliable possibilities to compare prices and the succes of pricing, e.g. prices of GSLs monthly premium package including both GSL & GSTL costs a monthly $19.99 and as we know with those leagues we're speaking about the leagues with the best players and the highest available play available atm with slightly more games if we add up Code A Code S and GSTL games together. Next step of evaluating offers in that area could be easy as well, just check ESLs HSC numbers which was $10(or even less? don't know exactly) and as for me it was included in an ESL premium package which made me whatch ESL streams in HD for $19 a month, but not only sc2 but also all other games featured in Esl as well as tournament participation possibilitie for me. And versus those offers those $20 for 3 days MLG wanted become even more ridiculous in my eyes at least. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Soft`Soap
Canada865 Posts
this tournament is so STACKED | ||
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