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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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ardi
United States187 Posts
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radurock
United Kingdom106 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:11 Otolia wrote: You seem to be the one to compare MLG to IPL on a economic level. The OP never mentioned that they are profitable yet, in fact it's sure they aren't there yet. And as I mentioned in my previous post, IGN esports division can afford to be slower in its advance to paid content because it has a humongous financial backing behind. I don't know any number but from the interview of the director at IPL 3, the bosses gave them a large amount of money as well as numerous business connections without the need to make IPL profitable from the start. Because IGN is also a content provider, it can afford to keep people on payroll when they are not working for IPL because they can be working for IGN too (I have no confirmation on this) so that might be a reason too. All in all, IPL might be the saving grace for MLG. If IPL can pull good numbers with paid subscription, MLG will have to adjust both in term of quality of product and price range. MLG set the bar very high to test the market and are likely to drop the prices a bit for the next time. i beleive on Reddit it was said there goal is to be able to be able to break even in 12 months which shows how tough they consider it gotta give props to sundance seems like hes alot more ambitious then IPL hard to say if whos way will turn out the best though | ||
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Orracle
United States314 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:08 LoB wrote: - age does not equate to maturity levels and I didn't generalize I made a statement that your post was immature. - Orracle try reading the words before you go off on a tangent/insulting me, none of my posts have mentioned what you typed out. Also opinion does not equal fact sorry to dissapoint. keep it coming though I am sure if you use capslock it might make yourr arguements even better! Explain? You stated there is no supply/demand for starcraft 2 tournaments. I stated essentially anything that has any demand will have some sort of supply. You stated consumers need to consider the backing behind the two companies. I stated it is completely irrelevant to a consumer. Do I feel bad for MLG so I'm willing to pay 4x the price of a ticket? Absolutely not. The same as I would not go to a movie theater and pay double for a ticket because I felt sorry that an independent film company didn't have near the budget of the large companies. | ||
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gosu86
208 Posts
i m def buying myself a pass i would have even bought it for 10 bucks for all the good players they got playing | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
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Sejilas
Germany1 Post
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Meaph
Germany53 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:08 LoB wrote: - age does not equate to maturity levels and I didn't generalize I made a statement that your post was immature. - Orracle try reading the words before you go off on a tangent/insulting me, none of my posts have mentioned what you typed out. Also opinion does not equal fact sorry to dissapoint. keep it coming though I am sure if you use capslock it might make yourr arguements even better! well thanks for your position about generalizing stuff nad you're right about your points kinda, still think about it the other way around. What are big companies doing when they're doing something new? They are infact trying to generalize the people they try to reach with the product (or esports winter arena), so the thought process always is? How are we going to make the most possible money out of that thing we're doing. And as stated above with most of the consumers of esports related stuff beeing students / pupils / casuals who won't even know about streaming and stuff, what you gonna do? Exactly make them pay $20 for 3 Days. I can see your points, but i guarantee you this, major companies are watching their clienteles before doing events and most important before setting prices. | ||
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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
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ShAdZ_ZX
Australia635 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:51 sephuys wrote: We as esports fans dont care how much it all costs to put on and if you can afford it. We just want to see good players play in high quality for the best deal. IPL is offering the quality and the value. You can laugh about us comparing them on your own time. We as esports fans should care. In the interest of growing this sport, we shouldn't be putting MLG in a negative light next to IPL simply because IPL is willing to give us an amazing deal. IGN can afford to put a lot of money into IPL and not expect immediate profits, because there will be more and more money coming to the industry in the future. MLG made the mistake of making a price point that's two high and I think IPL's is definitely too low. | ||
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BreaK
Canada890 Posts
And I'm being serious. It's not a racist thing, it's simply me being an old school brood war guy and Korean vs Foreigner is always my most anticipated match. I'm anticipating most the qualifiers will be Korean, correct? Just not enough Foreigners. | ||
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scarper65
1560 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:19 Orracle wrote: Explain? You stated there is no supply/demand for starcraft 2 tournaments. I stated essentially anything that has any demand will have some sort of supply. You stated consumers need to consider the backing behind the two companies. I stated it is completely irrelevant to a consumer. Do I feel bad for MLG so I'm willing to pay 4x the price of a ticket? Absolutely not. The same as I would not go to a movie theater and pay double for a ticket because I felt sorry that an independent film company didn't have near the budget of the large companies. He has no point. He's just a butt hurt MLG fan boy who came into thread where "everyone" else was expressing pleasure in IGN giving customers what they want and threw some shit around like a child stepping on your sand castle. | ||
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scarper65
1560 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:27 BreaK wrote: Too many Koreans. And I'm being serious. It's not a racist thing, it's simply me being an old school brood war guy and Korean vs Foreigner is always my most anticipated match. I'm anticipating most the qualifiers will be Korean, correct? Just not enough Foreigners. So you would rather have worse players? The whole point of qualifiers is that the best players get into the tournament, not some invitees that don't deserve to be there. | ||
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AjAyIGN
United States77 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:00 Artisane wrote: This I know, however I can't explain the epic difference to my wife. Explain to her that it's a trip to Vegas  Promise to take her to a show on one of the evenings (Saturday?), there are plenty of good shows that weekend! For example if you've never seen "O", it's definitely a great one.Once more of the details are announced, I'm pretty sure you can convince your wife to get those VIP tickets. | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:17 Forikorder wrote: i beleive on Reddit it was said there goal is to be able to be able to break even in 12 months which shows how tough they consider it gotta give props to sundance seems like hes alot more ambitious then IPL hard to say if whos way will turn out the best though Sundance has most likely his back against the wall. He has a long term plan but launching a new system a month after a complete 12 month program has been put up shows indicate that something may have happen. I'm not saying he isn't ambitious but you can't use his PPV move as a argument for that. As for IPL, I wasn't aware of that timetable. However it doesn't change a lot. IPL 4 is coming, there will be at least IPL5 before the 12 month after IPL3 are gone. IPL plan is different from MLG in that they are trying to cement a regular viewership as well as people who will be able to pay 40$ (+hotel and travel fees) to see an offline event. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:25 ShAdZ_ZX wrote: We as esports fans should care. In the interest of growing this sport, we shouldn't be putting MLG in a negative light next to IPL simply because IPL is willing to give us an amazing deal. IGN can afford to put a lot of money into IPL and not expect immediate profits, because there will be more and more money coming to the industry in the future. MLG made the mistake of making a price point that's two high and I think IPL's is definitely too low. We arnt doing anything. Companies put themselves in light. Companies make their demand. Good Companies will grow esports and make a ton of cash doing it. It's a win win like UFC was for MMA as a sport. Bad will fail as they should, as 90% do, ones who makes lots of mistakes do, and capitalism will be proven superior once again. | ||
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Remaker12
United States105 Posts
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Xelnas
Canada65 Posts
On February 28 2012 05:16 Boblhead wrote: $5 for a weekend of content isnt bad, its like ESL prices for HSC. Much better than $20 for the weekend. IPL! no its free unless you want HD then its Payed but its 5 dollars per month. | ||
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