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On February 27 2012 11:46 dsousa wrote:
Turning cookies off does not make you a pirate
The secret is out....if you turned off cookies and use incognito window in google chrome.... stream came in all good. Probably in any browser if you turned off cookies, the pay wall wouldn't come up.
You didn't know? Sorry, guess you never had to build a website before :D
So, that's why I'm not a thief, I'm just familiar with my browser features!
uh ya that does make you a pirate
its like saying bringing a video camera to a movie theater isnt pirating its getting your moneys worth
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On February 27 2012 11:43 windsupernova wrote:
LOL@ all the little pirates justifying their actions.
We get it you weren't going to pay to watch but still wanted to watch so you by other means procured the chance to see the tournament. jeez, everybody pirates at some point but please lay off with the justifications and admit that you cheated the system and any kind of customer/seller trust to get what you wanted. At least I can respect people who know they pirated and just don't care, btw you guys should be politicians.
"Did you pirate the signal?"
"Define pirating please.."
Yeah seriously. The shitty act doesn't bother me nearly as much as the intellectual dishonesty people will use to justify being shitty.
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On February 27 2012 11:47 esotericc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:46 dsousa wrote:
Turning cookies off does not make you a pirate
The secret is out....if you turned off cookies and use incognito window in google chrome.... stream came in all good. Probably in any browser if you turned off cookies, the pay wall wouldn't come up.
You didn't know? Sorry, guess you never had to build a website before :D
I didn't even have to do that, adblock and no script gave it to me free. Wasn't like I was going to run away screaming in a moral fit when I realized I didn't have to pay. It's like building a hockey rink with no walls then complaining when people watch the game from the street.
Or putting up a slide, with a sign at the bottom that says you own $5.
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On February 27 2012 11:45 Talack wrote:
Great event, only thing I didn't like was twitch TV being unable to fix their problem (kind of a kick in the dick to the people who paid, even though restreams happen, that's unpreventable).
lack of crowd. My god I wish there was one but this was a trial so I have no qualms.
i think next time we need something a little more for the money, i don't know what. but just something a little more. that being said 20 bucks seemed reasonable for the weekend. very satisfied.
Well, I will have to disagree/agree with you here. yeah lack of crowd sucked but to me 20 bucks didn't seem reasonable for this(I still payed this as a 1st time thing) but really the content was not really that much when compared to Gom, the Vods suck atm(seriously have you watched them? SOme of them cut even before the match ends) and the HD sucked on the final day.
Still 1stworldproblems but I do think they overcharged a lot for this. That being said I did enjoy the event but if they did a similar event again i doubt I would pay 20 bucks again
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On February 27 2012 11:47 Tula wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:40 TheSir wrote:On February 27 2012 11:35 Kharnage wrote:On February 27 2012 11:25 windsupernova wrote:
Really people should not be angry at the people who watched MLG for free due to the cookie bug. It was MLGs own damn fault their system didn't work. It does suck for people like me who payed and I certainly hope MLG makes up for this somehow.
But its MLGs fault they didn't lock the door and people could "sneak in" and watch for free.Starcraft isn't some kind of basic necessity though so I don't know why some people act as if it was their right to be able to watch it for free though... especially since as many of you have said there is tons of free content so no need to try to cheat MLgs moronic system Fuck off. That's like saying you shouldn't be angry if someone cheats at SC2 cause it's blizzards fault for not making the game secure enough. They know it's the wrong thing to do and yet do it anyway, that is the definition of evil right there. lol thats doesn't make any sence. Cheating is something which isn't allowed, watching a stream which the owners give away for free is totally legitm nothing wrong with that. Watching re-streams is wrong, watching the original is not. And btw why do you care so much? watching a stream which the owner covers with a paywall by using a workaround (even if it is very easy to do and commonplace) is the very definition of wrong. Are you really that stupid? Let me give you an analogy, the nearest cinema near you doesn't have alarmed emergency exits (for whatever reason), do you think it is okay to have a friend open that door for you and 10 others and simply walk in? Fuck no. You either pay or you don't get to watch the movie. Frankly this gloating on TL disgusts me, and the fact that the mods aren't handing out bans left and right really shows how far this website has fallen.
probably because a lot of mods did it theirselves.
Really? They ban here for accidentally dropping a pencil.
This website has the most puritan moderators on the internet.
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On February 27 2012 11:46 dsousa wrote:
Turning cookies off does not make you a pirate
The secret is out....if you turned off cookies and use incognito window in google chrome.... stream came in all good. Probably in any browser if you turned off cookies, the pay wall wouldn't come up.
You didn't know? Sorry, guess you never had to build a website before :D
So, that's why I'm not a thief, I'm just familiar with my browser features!
congratulations you have proven that you are scum.
Accessing content you have no rights to DOES in fact make you a pirate. It doesn't matter by what means you do so, if you know you should not access it but do so simply because you want to, you are commiting piracy and copyright infringement. Chances are you cannot be faulted legally, but morally you have proven beyond a doubt that you care nothing about esports and are the scum of the earth.
Good job, i hope you are proud.
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Amazing tournament glad I paid $20 for it, Price may be a bit high, but was worth it too me
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On February 27 2012 11:49 Garth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:47 Tula wrote:On February 27 2012 11:40 TheSir wrote:On February 27 2012 11:35 Kharnage wrote:On February 27 2012 11:25 windsupernova wrote:
Really people should not be angry at the people who watched MLG for free due to the cookie bug. It was MLGs own damn fault their system didn't work. It does suck for people like me who payed and I certainly hope MLG makes up for this somehow.
But its MLGs fault they didn't lock the door and people could "sneak in" and watch for free.Starcraft isn't some kind of basic necessity though so I don't know why some people act as if it was their right to be able to watch it for free though... especially since as many of you have said there is tons of free content so no need to try to cheat MLgs moronic system Fuck off. That's like saying you shouldn't be angry if someone cheats at SC2 cause it's blizzards fault for not making the game secure enough. They know it's the wrong thing to do and yet do it anyway, that is the definition of evil right there. lol thats doesn't make any sence. Cheating is something which isn't allowed, watching a stream which the owners give away for free is totally legitm nothing wrong with that. Watching re-streams is wrong, watching the original is not. And btw why do you care so much? watching a stream which the owner covers with a paywall by using a workaround (even if it is very easy to do and commonplace) is the very definition of wrong. Are you really that stupid? Let me give you an analogy, the nearest cinema near you doesn't have alarmed emergency exits (for whatever reason), do you think it is okay to have a friend open that door for you and 10 others and simply walk in? Fuck no. You either pay or you don't get to watch the movie. Frankly this gloating on TL disgusts me, and the fact that the mods aren't handing out bans left and right really shows how far this website has fallen. probably because a lot of mods did it theirselves. Really? They ban here for accidentally dropping a pencil. This website has the most puritan moderators on the internet.
And I'm not entirely sure they wouldn't take that as a compliment
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On February 27 2012 11:48 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:46 dsousa wrote:
Turning cookies off does not make you a pirate
The secret is out....if you turned off cookies and use incognito window in google chrome.... stream came in all good. Probably in any browser if you turned off cookies, the pay wall wouldn't come up.
You didn't know? Sorry, guess you never had to build a website before :D
So, that's why I'm not a thief, I'm just familiar with my browser features!
uh ya that does make you a pirate its like saying bringing a video camera to a movie theater isnt pirating its getting your moneys worth
Well, technically you should be able to bring a video camera to a movie theater, you just aren't allowed to resell the broadcasts of it.
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On February 27 2012 11:49 Garth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:47 Tula wrote:On February 27 2012 11:40 TheSir wrote:On February 27 2012 11:35 Kharnage wrote:On February 27 2012 11:25 windsupernova wrote:
Really people should not be angry at the people who watched MLG for free due to the cookie bug. It was MLGs own damn fault their system didn't work. It does suck for people like me who payed and I certainly hope MLG makes up for this somehow.
But its MLGs fault they didn't lock the door and people could "sneak in" and watch for free.Starcraft isn't some kind of basic necessity though so I don't know why some people act as if it was their right to be able to watch it for free though... especially since as many of you have said there is tons of free content so no need to try to cheat MLgs moronic system Fuck off. That's like saying you shouldn't be angry if someone cheats at SC2 cause it's blizzards fault for not making the game secure enough. They know it's the wrong thing to do and yet do it anyway, that is the definition of evil right there. lol thats doesn't make any sence. Cheating is something which isn't allowed, watching a stream which the owners give away for free is totally legitm nothing wrong with that. Watching re-streams is wrong, watching the original is not. And btw why do you care so much? watching a stream which the owner covers with a paywall by using a workaround (even if it is very easy to do and commonplace) is the very definition of wrong. Are you really that stupid? Let me give you an analogy, the nearest cinema near you doesn't have alarmed emergency exits (for whatever reason), do you think it is okay to have a friend open that door for you and 10 others and simply walk in? Fuck no. You either pay or you don't get to watch the movie. Frankly this gloating on TL disgusts me, and the fact that the mods aren't handing out bans left and right really shows how far this website has fallen. probably because a lot of mods did it theirselves. Really? They ban here for accidentally dropping a pencil. This website has the most puritan moderators on the internet.
Obviously it has the most puritan moderators when someone questions the integrity of holy team liquid. But when it suddenly becomes normal that a rough 20% of the posters in this and many similar threads gloat about how they fucked over MLG and are proud, it truly shows how lacking their morals are when it counts.
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On February 27 2012 11:50 MajorityofOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:49 Garth wrote:On February 27 2012 11:47 Tula wrote:On February 27 2012 11:40 TheSir wrote:On February 27 2012 11:35 Kharnage wrote:On February 27 2012 11:25 windsupernova wrote:
Really people should not be angry at the people who watched MLG for free due to the cookie bug. It was MLGs own damn fault their system didn't work. It does suck for people like me who payed and I certainly hope MLG makes up for this somehow.
But its MLGs fault they didn't lock the door and people could "sneak in" and watch for free.Starcraft isn't some kind of basic necessity though so I don't know why some people act as if it was their right to be able to watch it for free though... especially since as many of you have said there is tons of free content so no need to try to cheat MLgs moronic system Fuck off. That's like saying you shouldn't be angry if someone cheats at SC2 cause it's blizzards fault for not making the game secure enough. They know it's the wrong thing to do and yet do it anyway, that is the definition of evil right there. lol thats doesn't make any sence. Cheating is something which isn't allowed, watching a stream which the owners give away for free is totally legitm nothing wrong with that. Watching re-streams is wrong, watching the original is not. And btw why do you care so much? watching a stream which the owner covers with a paywall by using a workaround (even if it is very easy to do and commonplace) is the very definition of wrong. Are you really that stupid? Let me give you an analogy, the nearest cinema near you doesn't have alarmed emergency exits (for whatever reason), do you think it is okay to have a friend open that door for you and 10 others and simply walk in? Fuck no. You either pay or you don't get to watch the movie. Frankly this gloating on TL disgusts me, and the fact that the mods aren't handing out bans left and right really shows how far this website has fallen. probably because a lot of mods did it theirselves. Really? They ban here for accidentally dropping a pencil. This website has the most puritan moderators on the internet. And I'm not entirely sure they wouldn't take that as a compliment
I don't care which way they take it and would be surprised if I wasn't handed at least a temporary ban for this or the previous comment.
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On February 27 2012 11:03 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:00 Sickkiee wrote:
I just watched the streams for free off twitch.tv.
No idea why it let me watch, but I was able to watch all the major games in good quality with barely any lagg, for free.
Standard Google Chrome installation.
Hurry guys crucify me! i paid for my membership, and have no problem with people who used the workaround. indeed, i told my friend about the workaround so that he could watch for free. thats mlg's fuck-up and they should fix it. my only issue is the speculation that the freeloaders caused lag. if thats true--and i have no idea if it is--that would piss me off. but lag seems like mlg/twitch's fuck-up and they should fix it.
In all honesty I didn't even know about this private bug that was being exploited by Reddit. I simply just watched the stream from twitch.tv assuming MLG had a heart and made it free... until now.
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its funny how inthis world, people dont do bad things purely for fear of the punishment then fear of the actual act
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I didn't pay or watch, i wouln't watch MLG even if it was free.
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On February 27 2012 11:40 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:30 ThomasHobbes wrote:On February 27 2012 11:28 Perseverance wrote:On February 27 2012 11:27 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 27 2012 11:25 ZMTFoxdiE wrote:
lol @ all the suckers who paid while i watched everything in glorious 1080p with adblock suckers? i happily paid my $20, not only did I think it was worth it, but I am happy to support MLG because I want to see more of these Arenas. Exactly, so many poor kids who don't understand that if we don't pay, MLG dies. Hell, it could very well die anyway. I'm pretty sure the majority of the SC2 community is smart enough to figure out how to watch it for free if they wanted to.... If MLG wants to incur absurd costs by paying fringe benefits (plane tickets, accommodations, etc) to all of their participants, fine, but that cost is far too high for me to support. I am not going to shell out $20 for every special event MLG wants to put on. MLG needs a larger viewing audience for this PPV model scheme to work. They don't have it, and so it will, as of now, probably fail. If it failed, Sundance wouldn't have come on stream and announced they are having 2 more next season.
You can't be serious right? You can't have a SINGLE point on an experiment like this. Especially when it collided with Assembly. The only way they wouldn't of announced others is if it COMPLETELY bombed. Like 100 purchases or something. Anyone could've told you that wasn't going to be the case because there are more than that amount that just want to blindly throw money at MLG. You'll know failure if you don't see any in 2013. This year I doubt that they'll do anything better than just barely covering the costs of each event. That might be all they want, to just expand their brand on the viewers dime.
Again this is about long term sustainability and you don't find out that information by just holding ONE event. Once that new car smell wears off, will be the true test.
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On February 27 2012 11:49 Tula wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:46 dsousa wrote:
Turning cookies off does not make you a pirate
The secret is out....if you turned off cookies and use incognito window in google chrome.... stream came in all good. Probably in any browser if you turned off cookies, the pay wall wouldn't come up.
You didn't know? Sorry, guess you never had to build a website before :D
So, that's why I'm not a thief, I'm just familiar with my browser features!
congratulations you have proven that you are scum. Accessing content you have no rights to DOES in fact make you a pirate. It doesn't matter by what means you do so, if you know you should not access it but do so simply because you want to, you are commiting piracy and copyright infringement. Chances are you cannot be faulted legally, but morally you have proven beyond a doubt that you care nothing about esports and are the scum of the earth. Good job, i hope you are proud.
So if I include a copyrighted naked image from playboy in my post, and your eyes gaze upon it, YOU have committed a crime?
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On February 27 2012 11:50 Tula wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:49 Garth wrote:On February 27 2012 11:47 Tula wrote:On February 27 2012 11:40 TheSir wrote:On February 27 2012 11:35 Kharnage wrote:On February 27 2012 11:25 windsupernova wrote:
Really people should not be angry at the people who watched MLG for free due to the cookie bug. It was MLGs own damn fault their system didn't work. It does suck for people like me who payed and I certainly hope MLG makes up for this somehow.
But its MLGs fault they didn't lock the door and people could "sneak in" and watch for free.Starcraft isn't some kind of basic necessity though so I don't know why some people act as if it was their right to be able to watch it for free though... especially since as many of you have said there is tons of free content so no need to try to cheat MLgs moronic system Fuck off. That's like saying you shouldn't be angry if someone cheats at SC2 cause it's blizzards fault for not making the game secure enough. They know it's the wrong thing to do and yet do it anyway, that is the definition of evil right there. lol thats doesn't make any sence. Cheating is something which isn't allowed, watching a stream which the owners give away for free is totally legitm nothing wrong with that. Watching re-streams is wrong, watching the original is not. And btw why do you care so much? watching a stream which the owner covers with a paywall by using a workaround (even if it is very easy to do and commonplace) is the very definition of wrong. Are you really that stupid? Let me give you an analogy, the nearest cinema near you doesn't have alarmed emergency exits (for whatever reason), do you think it is okay to have a friend open that door for you and 10 others and simply walk in? Fuck no. You either pay or you don't get to watch the movie. Frankly this gloating on TL disgusts me, and the fact that the mods aren't handing out bans left and right really shows how far this website has fallen. probably because a lot of mods did it theirselves. Really? They ban here for accidentally dropping a pencil. This website has the most puritan moderators on the internet. Obviously it has the most puritan moderators when someone questions the integrity of holy team liquid. But when it suddenly becomes normal that a rough 20% of the posters in this and many similar threads gloat about how they fucked over MLG and are proud, it truly shows how lacking their morals are when it counts.
Sorry for not sharing your views on morality. And going by the polls it's more like a third than a fifth
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Just reading this lol'ing at the people who are justifying pirating this. It's the same as people's excuses for pirating games. MLG decided to put a price tag on this event; if you don't think the product is worth it, or can't afford it, then you simly have no right to view it. There is no moral justification possible to back you up. If you watched it without paying, the least you can do is accept that you're in the wrong for doing it.
For those of you who were simply not prompted to pay: Well, I can't blame you for that. That's just shoddy work by MLG and Twitch.
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On February 27 2012 11:40 TheSir wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:35 Kharnage wrote:On February 27 2012 11:25 windsupernova wrote:
Really people should not be angry at the people who watched MLG for free due to the cookie bug. It was MLGs own damn fault their system didn't work. It does suck for people like me who payed and I certainly hope MLG makes up for this somehow.
But its MLGs fault they didn't lock the door and people could "sneak in" and watch for free.Starcraft isn't some kind of basic necessity though so I don't know why some people act as if it was their right to be able to watch it for free though... especially since as many of you have said there is tons of free content so no need to try to cheat MLgs moronic system Fuck off. That's like saying you shouldn't be angry if someone cheats at SC2 cause it's blizzards fault for not making the game secure enough. They know it's the wrong thing to do and yet do it anyway, that is the definition of evil right there. lol thats doesn't make any sence. Cheating is something which isn't allowed, watching a stream which the owners give away for free is totally legitm nothing wrong with that. Watching re-streams is wrong, watching the original is not. And btw why do you care so much?
Honestly I find the lack of integrity to be fucking appalling. You're not smart, you're not clever, you're just another fucker who will do whatever you can get away with.
This here is the reason democracy fails, that banks fuck people over, that people lose their houses the list goes on and on. Because people will happily exploit other people and then be proud of themselves for doing it.
Look, there's a little old lady, quick mug her for her fucking pension cheque. It's her fault for not having a tazer and being old and frail.
If it's not worth the money, don't fucking watch. If you watch for free when MLG are specifically trying to make it PPV, and I don't care how you fucking do it, bad pay wall, restream, whatever, you have no fucking integrity and should be fucking ashamed of yourself. But honestly, if you were, I'd be cool with that. But you're not, you're oh so proud of how cleaver you are for ripping someone off. Pricks. Maybe when you're walking home and some arsehole runs you over cause he's so proud of how he can drive on the nature strip and avoid the traffic jam and then you'll rethink how awesome you are. But probably not.
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On February 27 2012 11:42 dsousa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:35 Kharnage wrote:On February 27 2012 11:25 windsupernova wrote:
Really people should not be angry at the people who watched MLG for free due to the cookie bug. It was MLGs own damn fault their system didn't work. It does suck for people like me who payed and I certainly hope MLG makes up for this somehow.
But its MLGs fault they didn't lock the door and people could "sneak in" and watch for free.Starcraft isn't some kind of basic necessity though so I don't know why some people act as if it was their right to be able to watch it for free though... especially since as many of you have said there is tons of free content so no need to try to cheat MLgs moronic system Fuck off. That's like saying you shouldn't be angry if someone cheats at SC2 cause it's blizzards fault for not making the game secure enough. They know it's the wrong thing to do and yet do it anyway, that is the definition of evil right there. Wrong is when you do tangible damage to tangible things. Not when your computer interprets bits sent to it via a url. I had a great MLG weekend, and I still have $20 in my pocket :D Probably some guy guy laid by 2 chicks while watching the stream for free...... do you hate him even more? The FACTS IS: You didn't have to pay to watch MLG! You did. You decided to.... don't be mad at the people smart enough to know that the pay wall would be made of paper .
Never knew people were actually this ignorant
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