EPTThe matches were amazing, and even though I believe $20 is too much, and next time I wouldn't pay, I really, really enjoyed this weekend, and I am glad I payed for it.
How did you watch MLG? - Page 12
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VokeLP
Canada16 Posts
The matches were amazing, and even though I believe $20 is too much, and next time I wouldn't pay, I really, really enjoyed this weekend, and I am glad I payed for it. | ||
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TheSir
1830 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:35 Kharnage wrote: Fuck off. That's like saying you shouldn't be angry if someone cheats at SC2 cause it's blizzards fault for not making the game secure enough. They know it's the wrong thing to do and yet do it anyway, that is the definition of evil right there. lol thats doesn't make any sence. Cheating is something which isn't allowed, watching a stream which the owners give away for free is totally legitm nothing wrong with that. Watching re-streams is wrong, watching the original is not. And btw why do you care so much? | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:30 ThomasHobbes wrote: If MLG wants to incur absurd costs by paying fringe benefits (plane tickets, accommodations, etc) to all of their participants, fine, but that cost is far too high for me to support. I am not going to shell out $20 for every special event MLG wants to put on. MLG needs a larger viewing audience for this PPV model scheme to work. They don't have it, and so it will, as of now, probably fail. If it failed, Sundance wouldn't have come on stream and announced they are having 2 more next season. | ||
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Ace.Xile
United States286 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:37 Mr. Black wrote: There are many "real" definitions of "stealing." There is a legal definition, a moral definition, and a common-sense definition. Morally and common-sensically, you are stealing -- you are taking the benefit of someone else's work without paying their stated price. If you entered into the transaction that was offered, there would be $20 in MLG's bank account. Learn what "sophistry" and "arbitrary distinctions" and "semantic bullshit" are, then come back. Except at the end of the day, me watching a restream doesn't take money out of their bank account because i wasn't paying for it in the first place.. so it doesn't hurt them... so the whole idea of stealing is null n void, oh wait. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:40 TheSir wrote: lol thats doesn't make any sence. Cheating is something which isn't allowed, watching a stream which the owners give away for free is totally legitm nothing wrong with that. Watching re-streams is wrong, watching the original is not. And btw why do you care so much? it wasnt something that was free watching it from the site when you didnt pay is jsut as bad as watching a restream they are both the same, your watching a PPV event without paying or having intent to pay Except at the end of the day, me watching a restream doesn't take money out of their bank account because i wasn't paying for it in the first place.. so it doesn't hurt them... so the whole idea of stealing is null n void, oh wait. but there was lots of people watching the restream who would ahve paid so the restream cost MLG money | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:35 Kharnage wrote: Fuck off. That's like saying you shouldn't be angry if someone cheats at SC2 cause it's blizzards fault for not making the game secure enough. They know it's the wrong thing to do and yet do it anyway, that is the definition of evil right there. Wrong is when you do tangible damage to tangible things. Not when your computer interprets bits sent to it via a url. I had a great MLG weekend, and I still have $20 in my pocket :D Probably some guy guy laid by 2 chicks while watching the stream for free...... do you hate him even more? The FACTS IS: You didn't have to pay to watch MLG! You did. You decided to.... don't be mad at the people smart enough to know that the pay wall would be made of paper . | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
We get it you weren't going to pay to watch but still wanted to watch so you by other means procured the chance to see the tournament. jeez, everybody pirates at some point but please lay off with the justifications and admit that you cheated the system and any kind of customer/seller trust to get what you wanted. At least I can respect people who know they pirated and just don't care, btw you guys should be politicians. "Did you pirate the signal?" "Define pirating please.." | ||
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Mr. Black
United States470 Posts
[QUOTE] There are several times where I had never thought about going to restaurant X because I could not afford it but if someone would invite me to a paid dinner at X then I would go. I would not stay home and say "well I personally couldn't afford it so I don't deserve it". In either case, restaurant X or MLG does not get MY money and there's just no way around it. Quoting got all messed up...[/QUOTE] Restaurant X does get paid for everyone it serves, though. Bad analogy. If your friend paid $20 on your behalf, you could watch with no ethical issue. | ||
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TheAlchemist89
160 Posts
Definitely loved the style though, and the players they gathered made for really great games. | ||
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Woj
United States133 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:30 ampson wrote: Didn't pay, didn't watch. Was busy all weekend anyway. This. Looking forward to the VODS in a week to see MKP tear it up =D | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:41 Ace.Xile wrote: Except at the end of the day, me watching a restream doesn't take money out of their bank account because i wasn't paying for it in the first place.. so it doesn't hurt them... so the whole idea of stealing is null n void, oh wait. you realize, in the extreme scenario, if everybody have the same thought process as you and nobody paid/watch restreams instead, they would've taken a substantial loss right? what would be their incentive of creating intellectual work if everybody just download or watch restream in this case? I just don't understand how you can morally justify yourself into piracy and stealing other's people work. Hell, I do it because I am poor as shit and currently there are almost no repercussion for doing it, but I don't pretend I am a white knight, doing something legal when in reality i'm putting a dent on the owner's wallet. | ||
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blart
Sweden8 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
Not sure if everyone realized this but you could watch it for free that way, just one stream at a time. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
lack of crowd. My god I wish there was one but this was a trial so I have no qualms. i think next time we need something a little more for the money, i don't know what. but just something a little more. that being said 20 bucks seemed reasonable for the weekend. very satisfied. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
I mean MLG didn't steal their wallet and didn't hurt him financially tell me what to think?_? | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
1. Koreans actually start liking it and get a self-sustainable scene over there. Highly unlikely. 2. Foreigner stops being a synonym for 'bad' and enough foreigners become good enough to form a couple teams for high-profile, permanent sponsorship in the English-speaking world. Teams that can compete against Korean teams (and not just by buying Koreans, you guys make me laugh, seriously?) Again, highly unlikely. | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
The secret is out....if you turned off cookies and use incognito window in google chrome.... stream came in all good. Probably in any browser if you turned off cookies, the pay wall wouldn't come up. You didn't know? Sorry, guess you never had to build a website before :D So, that's why I'm not a thief, I'm just familiar with my browsers features! | ||
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esotericc
449 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:46 dsousa wrote: Turning cookies off does not make you a pirate The secret is out....if you turned off cookies and use incognito window in google chrome.... stream came in all good. Probably in any browser if you turned off cookies, the pay wall wouldn't come up. You didn't know? Sorry, guess you never had to build a website before :D I didn't even have to do that, adblock and no script gave it to me free. Wasn't like I was going to run away screaming in a moral fit when I realized I didn't have to pay. It's like building a hockey rink with no walls then complaining when people watch the game from the street. | ||
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:40 TheSir wrote: lol thats doesn't make any sence. Cheating is something which isn't allowed, watching a stream which the owners give away for free is totally legitm nothing wrong with that. Watching re-streams is wrong, watching the original is not. And btw why do you care so much? watching a stream which the owner covers with a paywall by using a workaround (even if it is very easy to do and commonplace) is the very definition of wrong. Are you really that stupid? Let me give you an analogy, the nearest cinema near you doesn't have alarmed emergency exits (for whatever reason), do you think it is okay to have a friend open that door for you and 10 others and simply walk in? Fuck no. You either pay or you don't get to watch the movie. Frankly this gloating on TL disgusts me, and the fact that the mods aren't handing out bans left and right really shows how far this website has fallen. | ||
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i_am_immure
United States67 Posts
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