EPTMLG Arena and the TL Calendar - Page 2
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9179 Posts
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Warzilla
Czech Republic311 Posts
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Trolle
Sweden227 Posts
On February 23 2012 12:49 GGQ wrote: I respect the decision, but you guys do link to unembedded streams sometimes, yeah? GSL is a way too big part of the scene to ignore, a lot of people only follow GSL and they do provide a free stream at least. And that is the only unembedded stream that I can think of. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On February 23 2012 12:53 Imbu wrote: Perfect right up. It shouldn't be that much of a problem for MLG, all those that were going to watch the finals anyways probably already have gotten the PPV pass. Will the live report threads still be okay? Yes the LR threads and news threads will be as usual, even if some people aren't watching we still feel that TL should be a place to discuss things and interact with other fans. | ||
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Nethermind
New Zealand445 Posts
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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DrVegetables
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Heraklitus
United States553 Posts
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On February 23 2012 12:56 OldManZerg wrote: They DO have a free stream. One of the channels is streaming free content. What about that? This is actually a pretty good question O.o | ||
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Trolle
Sweden227 Posts
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Deleted User 137586
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TL as always tries to be transparent but there are questions here that need to be answered. If MLG offered referral program participation and TL refused and TL offered advertising space and MLG refused, then it seems to me that it's a question of money rather than principle. Didn't MLG offer enough money through the referral program and TL wanted more for advertising? Unless we know those numbers, it's hard to take this announcement at face value. Secondly, it seems an impossible task for MLG (or anyone) to " find a revenue model that allows them to keep running successful events." if PPV will immediately cause costs to increase and reduce their community advertising. We know that TL is the hub for all things to SC2 and not being showcased here will damage their event. Although, I don't think TL is the cause of these problems. I can imagine that MLG did not talk to TL quite as much as they could have, nor has MLG gone to great lengths to actually pay for these services (which, to be honest, are taken for granted by many). On the other hand, the Winter Arena must be one of the most frequently mentioned topics on TL at the moment, so perhaps removing the calendar option is mostly a demonstration of attitude than an actually painful lesson being taught to MLG. | ||
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SwampyNZ
New Zealand47 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On February 23 2012 12:56 OldManZerg wrote: They DO have a free stream. One of the channels is streaming free content. What about that? This isn't a gameplay channel, its a stream of players in a lounge. While there isn't a clear line of what percentage a tournament has to be free to be counted as a "free stream" I would say at least the gameplay portions must be free. | ||
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n0ah
United States250 Posts
Ah, nevermind. Someone already addressed it. Sorry/ :D | ||
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
On February 23 2012 12:56 OldManZerg wrote: They DO have a free stream. One of the channels is streaming free content. What about that? That stream is essentially the free bread a restaurant gives you with your dinner. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On February 23 2012 12:56 Adebisi wrote: This is actually a pretty good question O.o yea.. MLG has the Dr.Pepper free stream for the Arenas, Anything on this hotbid? | ||
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Mycl
Australia1370 Posts
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
Also thank you for putting together the post about your side of the story before we heard about it elsewhere, at least this way it's mostly out in the open. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On February 23 2012 12:56 Ghanburighan wrote: I understand the viewpoint, but I do not agree with the final decision nor the way it was conducted now. TL as always tries to be transparent but there are questions here that need to be answered. If MLG offered referral program participation and TL refused and TL offered advertising space and MLG refused, then it seems to me that it's a question of money rather than principle. Didn't MLG offer enough money through the referral program and TL wanted more for advertising? Unless we know those numbers, it's hard to take this announcement at face value. Secondly, it seems an impossible task for MLG (or anyone) to " find a revenue model that allows them to keep running successful events." if PPV will immediately cause costs to increase and reduce their community advertising. We know that TL is the hub for all things to SC2 and not being showcased here will damage their event. Although, I don't think TL is the cause of these problems. I can imagine that MLG did not talk to TL quite as much as they could have, nor has MLG gone to great lengths to actually pay for these services (which, to be honest, are taken for granted by many). On the other hand, the Winter Arena must be one of the most frequently mentioned topics on TL at the moment, so perhaps removing the calendar option is mostly a demonstration of attitude than an actually painful lesson being taught to MLG. Neither of these conversations (the referral program or the calendar spot) reached the point where we were negotiating prices at all. We declined to be a part of the referral program for the reasons we stated, and they did not feel we should charge anything for the calendar entry. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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