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Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
February 17 2012 01:04 GMT
#241
On February 17 2012 09:59 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 09:57 Kira__ wrote:
On February 17 2012 09:57 Ubenn wrote:
Pretty unprofessional by them picking up Axslav knowing that this is going down. They knew that the ship was sinking and still went out and got him.


Well, if axslav signed a contract with Reign and got a salary, he'll probably be laughing all the way to the bank now (while looking for a new team)

yeah 3 figures amounts are so life changing

How on earth did you guys survive on 3 figures salary in Reign?
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
February 17 2012 01:04 GMT
#242
NOOO, they were doing such a great job too. They didn't win a ton, but they were getting to mid finals which is great for a team that you
User was warned for too many mimes.
nOlifeTERRAN
Profile Joined September 2010
United States153 Posts
February 17 2012 01:04 GMT
#243
wooompwooompwoooooomp
Heh Stem
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
February 17 2012 01:05 GMT
#244
NA why you esports die ;(
Tek_
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada55 Posts
February 17 2012 01:06 GMT
#245
On February 17 2012 09:59 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 09:50 Tek_ wrote:
I hate to say it, but this is a good lesson to all the teams out there trying to establish themselves. To make it in the long run a team has to establish itself not only through talent, but financially. Being over ambitious can be costly as we see here. Good luck to all the players.

Should be a good lesson for the teams currently around too. I can't imagine many teams around today are doing even close to well financially.

I mean, obviously there's TL, which has a huge fansite, but outside of that I can only really think of EG as financially stable in a meaningful way (maybe coL and Quantic, but I don't know all that much about them to be honest and they don't seem to be nearly as big in the community as far as expanding their brand goes). Then we have for example FXO, which is just a way for a rich guy to waste his money for entertainment (not a real business model), and a lot of poorer teams that aren't really paying meaningful salaries.

I fear for the scene. :\


When I think of established teams I think of EG, coL and Fnatic. These are teams that have survived for years and across multiple games. Why? Because they run good businesses, EG and coL especially.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 01:10:33
February 17 2012 01:07 GMT
#246
Sadly, I think this could be the beginning of the bursting of the e-sports bubble. I think many parties are starting to realise the ROI of investing in the industry is just too uncertain/low at the moment and with this happening a lot of teams will lose their already poor incomes. One part of it all I think is also that there are a lot of "undeserving" individuals taking pieces of the cake, the SC2 pro scene needs to lose some fat like all unprofitable businesses do. Money talks.
nicebuffalo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States27 Posts
February 17 2012 01:08 GMT
#247
must suck for axslav. got kicked off eg and now rgn is gone.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 17 2012 01:08 GMT
#248
On February 17 2012 10:04 Legio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 09:59 ReignFayth wrote:
On February 17 2012 09:57 Kira__ wrote:
On February 17 2012 09:57 Ubenn wrote:
Pretty unprofessional by them picking up Axslav knowing that this is going down. They knew that the ship was sinking and still went out and got him.


Well, if axslav signed a contract with Reign and got a salary, he'll probably be laughing all the way to the bank now (while looking for a new team)

yeah 3 figures amounts are so life changing

How on earth did you guys survive on 3 figures salary in Reign?

The vast majority of pro-gamers get 3 figures monthly.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
TeH_CaRnAg3
Profile Joined March 2010
United States239 Posts
February 17 2012 01:08 GMT
#249
Sad news indeed. Though an attempt at something you value is worth a hell of a lot, and by no means a failure. I hope the staf and players continue to fight for what they want.
I stole leonardo dicaprios ladder points
Lord Arawn
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1 Post
February 17 2012 01:08 GMT
#250
I wonder who will grab some of these players. :/
My Life for Auir
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
February 17 2012 01:08 GMT
#251
On February 17 2012 09:59 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 09:50 Tek_ wrote:
I hate to say it, but this is a good lesson to all the teams out there trying to establish themselves. To make it in the long run a team has to establish itself not only through talent, but financially. Being over ambitious can be costly as we see here. Good luck to all the players.

Should be a good lesson for the teams currently around too. I can't imagine many teams around today are doing even close to well financially.

I mean, obviously there's TL, which has a huge fansite, but outside of that I can only really think of EG as financially stable in a meaningful way (maybe coL and Quantic, but I don't know all that much about them to be honest and they don't seem to be nearly as big in the community as far as expanding their brand goes). Then we have for example FXO, which is just a way for a rich guy to waste his money for entertainment (not a real business model), and a lot of poorer teams that aren't really paying meaningful salaries.

I fear for the scene. :\

FXO is a way for a rich guy to dump money?
Boss always show his concerns about making the team profitable and already cut the costs by a large margin. To be honest, it's probably the only korean team who really care and for the financial side.

What happend with team Reign is lack of exposure, they had a very little fanbase and never produced any event or something along those lines to bring audience to their sponsors.
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
February 17 2012 01:09 GMT
#252
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo


T_T

some serious talent on this team. Don't think that the players will have trouble finding homes but this is so saddening. How come it was so sudden? How do you sign a player and then disband so soon?
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 17 2012 01:10 GMT
#253
Seems to be difficult to maintain a NA team if you are not already a stable organisation (EG, coL).
We've had Root, LG, VT, sixjax, Reign.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 17 2012 01:10 GMT
#254
Poor Axslav, he finally found a team, he got everything together, and was starting to get on a roll, and then this happens...

However, there are many people on the market. Complexity just announced picking up three new players... probably slush Kiwi and artist?

I hope Liquid can get one of those three though
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
February 17 2012 01:10 GMT
#255
On February 17 2012 09:57 Ubenn wrote:
Pretty unprofessional by them picking up Axslav knowing that this is going down. They knew that the ship was sinking and still went out and got him.


How in damn hell do you know they did that? Such an unfounded accusation with absolutely no facts to support it.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
February 17 2012 01:11 GMT
#256
back to coL? *Trollface*

User was warned for this post
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 17 2012 01:11 GMT
#257
On February 17 2012 10:04 Legio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 09:59 ReignFayth wrote:
On February 17 2012 09:57 Kira__ wrote:
On February 17 2012 09:57 Ubenn wrote:
Pretty unprofessional by them picking up Axslav knowing that this is going down. They knew that the ship was sinking and still went out and got him.


Well, if axslav signed a contract with Reign and got a salary, he'll probably be laughing all the way to the bank now (while looking for a new team)

yeah 3 figures amounts are so life changing

How on earth did you guys survive on 3 figures salary in Reign?

I didn't get any salary esp since I went inactive almost at the beginning, players in the pro house didn't have any rent to pay, pretty easy to survive that way
BoxedLunch
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
February 17 2012 01:11 GMT
#258
CoLKiWiKaKi.

calling it now
In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, they are not
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
February 17 2012 01:11 GMT
#259
On February 17 2012 10:08 antilyon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 09:59 hmunkey wrote:
On February 17 2012 09:50 Tek_ wrote:
I hate to say it, but this is a good lesson to all the teams out there trying to establish themselves. To make it in the long run a team has to establish itself not only through talent, but financially. Being over ambitious can be costly as we see here. Good luck to all the players.

Should be a good lesson for the teams currently around too. I can't imagine many teams around today are doing even close to well financially.

I mean, obviously there's TL, which has a huge fansite, but outside of that I can only really think of EG as financially stable in a meaningful way (maybe coL and Quantic, but I don't know all that much about them to be honest and they don't seem to be nearly as big in the community as far as expanding their brand goes). Then we have for example FXO, which is just a way for a rich guy to waste his money for entertainment (not a real business model), and a lot of poorer teams that aren't really paying meaningful salaries.

I fear for the scene. :\

FXO is a way for a rich guy to dump money?
Boss always show his concerns about making the team profitable and already cut the costs by a large margin. To be honest, it's probably the only korean team who really care and for the financial side.

What happend with team Reign is lack of exposure, they had a very little fanbase and never produced any event or something along those lines to bring audience to their sponsors.


I can't speak to the FXO comment, but somehow I doubt that's true. But, what I can speak to, is the bolded part.

How can you even say that? OGS has been going out and picking up sponsors left and right, so has IM. Steelseries, Mom's touch, Burn energy drink. PRIME team has a freakin' clothing store, man! And you're going to sit there and tell us they don't care about money?

And the ultimate caveat to your statement, the ZENEX post ( whether its true or not I don't know) where a team came to an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD asking STRANGERS for money.

Everyone cares about money. Everyone.
gRzBrandO
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada50 Posts
February 17 2012 01:12 GMT
#260
I feel bad for Axslav. A good player who just joined the team and it disbands soon after :/
Hope he and the rest of the players got on new teams soon, there is a lot of talent on reign.
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