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On February 14 2012 23:21 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:15 Velr wrote:On February 14 2012 23:12 Thinasy wrote:On February 14 2012 23:11 Agathon wrote:On February 14 2012 23:08 Thinasy wrote:On February 14 2012 23:06 Anncoulpable wrote:On February 14 2012 22:44 teddyoojo wrote:On February 14 2012 22:37 syllogism wrote:On February 14 2012 22:33 teddyoojo wrote:
how in the world do they justify 20$?
gsl is 10$, and you get WAY more than 20 hours and better players.
20$ is just blown out of proportion. Costs. This is the price point they, based on the data they have available, think is required for them to justify hosting a tournament of this size and expenses. They may turn out to be wrong and adjust accordingly, but they aren't charging $20 because they are being greedy, at least in the sense this thread thinks it's being greedy. Some people will look at the price and make the same conclusion as you, some may not. In the end all that matters is how many are willing to pay, not how many people in this thread vocally complain. maybe they should rethink their business model if their tournament is bigger and more expensive but in the end the content is worse. oh wait. they get the money in through other sources else there would be no way mlg would use that kind of business model. so theres no way 20$ are justified. in the end the viewer doesnt care about mlg, all they care about is good content at a rational cost. By rational cost, you mean you want it free. People constantly feel ENTITLED to all of these tournaments, at no cost. I get that a lot of viewers aren't adults, but if that's the case, maybe they shouldn't be talking about what is and isn't fair or calling MLG some evil greedy corporation just because they are doing a few events that are PPV. If you don't even work and make money, you really aren't in a position to talk about 'fair pricing' or 'being greedy.' Charging $20 for one tournament that is an entire weekend long is not a lot of money for anyone who works for their money and doesn't have to ask mom and dad; obviously you are not their target audience for THIS event, while those of us who can afford it get a little something extra if we want. If it bothers you that much, and you're old enough, go get a job so you can afford GSL or an event like this. As a full time college student, I manage to pay my bills and afford to pay for GSL/GSTL/AoL and HD MLG streams. It has always been well within a reasonable price for the amount of quality content I receive, and I'll likely end up paying for these MLG events as well Finally someone that understands how business works. 20USD is less money then I would pay for watching a movie at a cinema here in Sweden so yeah.. It definitely isnt much money we are talking about. Yes, it's cheep. And then? How does it mean it worth it? It doesn't for many people, even if they could pay double this price with selling one of their arm. No ofc, it's worth your time when it's free am I right? I catch it when i'm home. I don't say home for it. So that now means i won't watch it when i have to pay. I imagine there are tons of people like me. I just doubt they will make more money that way... Oh, and this has like nothing to do with "growing" E-Sports.. but it has all to do with making MLG profitable. And how doesnt making MLG profitable help grow SC2 as an e-sport? MLG profitable = More MLG's = More content.
If the only way for MLG to be profitable was to charge 20$ per event, it would not be worth it. "Esports" would die.
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On February 14 2012 23:18 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:13 Longshank wrote:On February 14 2012 22:36 KingRajesh wrote:
$20 is nothing for 20 hours of entertainment. It's like 3 hours working at minimum wage.
I spend $59.99 on most UFC Events, and those are only 2-3 hours.
MLG is giving a bargain here. By this logic, paying $20k for SC2 is fair price as well for many people here considering how many hours of entertainment it gives us. That logic is terrible. You realise that MLG is running a business and is trying to *gasp* make a profit. The increased both travel costs and prizepool for this MLG so they need a way to make more money. If you don;t think that 20$ is worth it to watch live then don't watch live wait 1 week and watch the vods.
The problem here is that they first chose to pay for all the expenses in getting the players over and THEN said "Here's what it's going to cost". I'm pretty sure that most people would have settled to pay for top 2 of each qualifier to get there and have to pay less themselves. You simply don't need to most stellar lineup every time you have a qualifier. And as it seems right now, the grand final of this will have pretty much the same players as one of the qualifiers.
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I am a little surprised by a lot of posts in this thread. I understand that it is upsetting that MLG is moving to PPV and I agree that price point might be set a little high. However, assuming that advertising will be enough to sponsor these events even after many experts in the community have said that it will not is a little confusing to me.
Asking for another alternative other than PPV is a little silly too since people have been racking their brains about this subject for some time and no one has come up with a better alternative. If companies like Gomtv and MLG do not act now they will not be in business within the next couple of years. The GSL recognized that they needed more revenue and jacked their prices up this year as well. If you want large prize pools, great streams, continuous growth, great casters and the best players then expect to pay.
Lastly, I am positive that MLG was aware that they would have a large drop in viewership. They are running a business and need to maximize profits. There is a sweet spot of viewers and price that leads to the optimal revenue. They might not have hit it yet, but as the year carries on they will probably tweak a few things to get the right price. Yes, a lot of viewers will be left out because they are not willing to pay that particular price that MLG sets but that is the nature of the beast.
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If i got the spare money and my favorite players are attending im going to buy it, but not at this cost. Pretty shitty they dont include gold members. I think it would have been a perfect idea to have this "gold members only" to promote the gold membership.
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I will not buy even though I can without a problem. I don't want to set a precedent for the organizations when ppv worked.
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On February 14 2012 23:16 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:15 CursedFeanor wrote:
holy crap... I expected this thread to be about 50% on each side, but I must say I'm kinda disappointed at the low level of maturity of TL right now... I expected more.
"I don't want to pay some ridiculously low price for something I love!"
grow up kids. *sigh* life is about making choices. everyone here has enough money to afford such product (yes, everyone. just look at your wallet ffs. no 20$ bill there?) as long as they consider it to be worth it more then other stuff, which I certainly do. This is the right move from MLG and I realise now that I'm glad it might rid us of a bunch of spoiled kids such as many of the posters here.
please don't give me the poor student crap... I'm still a student myself and I know what it's like. never met anyone who couldnt afford to hang out on a friday night for a couple of 8$ beers at the bar though... I present you: Eastern Europe. Or basically next to any place in the world except NA, Western Europe and Japan/SK...
That still doesn't explain the majority of the posts though, considering most of TL is in fact NA/West europe/SK
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On February 14 2012 23:16 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:15 CursedFeanor wrote:
holy crap... I expected this thread to be about 50% on each side, but I must say I'm kinda disappointed at the low level of maturity of TL right now... I expected more.
"I don't want to pay some ridiculously low price for something I love!"
grow up kids. *sigh* life is about making choices. everyone here has enough money to afford such product (yes, everyone. just look at your wallet ffs. no 20$ bill there?) as long as they consider it to be worth it more then other stuff, which I certainly do. This is the right move from MLG and I realise now that I'm glad it might rid us of a bunch of spoiled kids such as many of the posters here.
please don't give me the poor student crap... I'm still a student myself and I know what it's like. never met anyone who couldnt afford to hang out on a friday night for a couple of 8$ beers at the bar though... I present you: Eastern Europe. Or basically next to any place in the world except NA, Western Europe and Japan/SK...
AND I present you germany, where I dont know any student who buys beer for 8$. Most student have about 700-800 Euro per month. 300 goes down for rent, 10 for internet, 40 for handy, 200 for food, 50 for copies, books and other stuff for your studies. Now you`re left with 100-200 Euro for the month, but haven`t bought one piece of clothes or attended one party. What about the money to drive somewhere from time to time and what if some of your equipment brakes down and you need to replace it. 20 bucks for a livestream is a lot, even for an average german student.
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On February 14 2012 23:22 skeldark wrote:
Many people act like you do something bad if you dont pay. If something is not free, i don't watch it. Done.
I will not pay a single cent for any sc2 event.
I'm sick of this "let e-sport grow" talk. I don't care for e-sport. I don't care of the business model of tournament organisations.
I don't care if players get 100k price money or nothing.
I want to see good sc2 games, that's all.
If you guys think that this "e-sport" will grow without guys like me you are wrong.
If its not free to watch, only the few "support e-sport" guys will hang in there and it will slowly die.
I think MLG understand that. They just want to milk the "gold" guys as long as possible.
Who do you think will buy this tickets? Only the guys who already buy gsl and mlg gold tickets.
No one else.
Nice, "I want to see good sc2 games, that's all.. oh wait it has to be free ofc. Cause everyone likes to entertain for free, that's what I belive atleast, because im ignorant".
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On February 14 2012 23:24 Xcobidoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:18 Tantaburs wrote:On February 14 2012 23:13 Longshank wrote:On February 14 2012 22:36 KingRajesh wrote:
$20 is nothing for 20 hours of entertainment. It's like 3 hours working at minimum wage.
I spend $59.99 on most UFC Events, and those are only 2-3 hours.
MLG is giving a bargain here. By this logic, paying $20k for SC2 is fair price as well for many people here considering how many hours of entertainment it gives us. That logic is terrible. You realise that MLG is running a business and is trying to *gasp* make a profit. The increased both travel costs and prizepool for this MLG so they need a way to make more money. If you don;t think that 20$ is worth it to watch live then don't watch live wait 1 week and watch the vods. The problem here is that they first chose to pay for all the expenses in getting the players over and THEN said "Here's what it's going to cost". I'm pretty sure that most people would have settled to pay for top 2 of each qualifier to get there and have to pay less themselves. You simply don't need to most stellar lineup every time you have a qualifier. And as it seems right now, the grand final of this will have pretty much the same players as one of the qualifiers.
This I can agree with, but definitely get feedback like this through to MLG. Slightly less top players because 6 pay for their own flight > lower PPV costs.
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On February 14 2012 23:22 skeldark wrote:
Many people act like you do something bad if you dont pay. If something is not free, i don't watch it. Done.
I will not pay a single cent for any sc2 event.
I'm sick of this "let e-sport grow" talk. I don't care for e-sport. I don't care of the business model of tournament organisations.
I don't care if players get 100k price money or nothing.
I want to see good sc2 games, that's all.
If you guys think that this "e-sport" will grow without guys like me you are wrong.
If its not free to watch, only the few "support e-sport" guys will hang in there and it will slowly die.
I think MLG understand that. They just want to milk the "gold" guys as long as possible.
Who do you think will buy this tickets? Only the guys who already buy gsl and mlg gold tickets.
No one else.
There is nothing wrong with choosing not to pay.
There is something wrong with demanding that it be free because you don't want to watch it.
Remember that this is a "bonus" tornament. Following last years model we wouldn't have any mlg till columbus and then people would complain about the seeding system. If you don't want to watch it then don't watch it they are making the vods free to watch one week after the tourney so it isn't like you will never be able to see the games
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On February 14 2012 23:25 zul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:16 Velr wrote:On February 14 2012 23:15 CursedFeanor wrote:
holy crap... I expected this thread to be about 50% on each side, but I must say I'm kinda disappointed at the low level of maturity of TL right now... I expected more.
"I don't want to pay some ridiculously low price for something I love!"
grow up kids. *sigh* life is about making choices. everyone here has enough money to afford such product (yes, everyone. just look at your wallet ffs. no 20$ bill there?) as long as they consider it to be worth it more then other stuff, which I certainly do. This is the right move from MLG and I realise now that I'm glad it might rid us of a bunch of spoiled kids such as many of the posters here.
please don't give me the poor student crap... I'm still a student myself and I know what it's like. never met anyone who couldnt afford to hang out on a friday night for a couple of 8$ beers at the bar though... I present you: Eastern Europe. Or basically next to any place in the world except NA, Western Europe and Japan/SK... AND I present you germany, where I dont know any student who buys beer for 8$. Most student have about 700-800 Euro per month. 300 goes down for rent, 10 for internet, 40 for handy, 200 for food, 50 for copies, books and other stuff for your studies. Now your left with 100-200 Euro for the month, but haven`t bought one piece of clothes or attended one party. What about the money to drive somewhere from time to time and what if some of your equipment brakes down and you need to replace it. 20 Buck for a livestream is a lot, even for an average german student.
Stop making it sound like you arent living fairly well as a student will ya?.
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On February 14 2012 23:25 zul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:16 Velr wrote:On February 14 2012 23:15 CursedFeanor wrote:
holy crap... I expected this thread to be about 50% on each side, but I must say I'm kinda disappointed at the low level of maturity of TL right now... I expected more.
"I don't want to pay some ridiculously low price for something I love!"
grow up kids. *sigh* life is about making choices. everyone here has enough money to afford such product (yes, everyone. just look at your wallet ffs. no 20$ bill there?) as long as they consider it to be worth it more then other stuff, which I certainly do. This is the right move from MLG and I realise now that I'm glad it might rid us of a bunch of spoiled kids such as many of the posters here.
please don't give me the poor student crap... I'm still a student myself and I know what it's like. never met anyone who couldnt afford to hang out on a friday night for a couple of 8$ beers at the bar though... I present you: Eastern Europe. Or basically next to any place in the world except NA, Western Europe and Japan/SK... AND I present you germany, where I dont know any student who buys beer for 8$. Most student have about 700-800 Euro per month. 300 goes down for rent, 10 for internet, 40 for handy, 200 for food, 50 for copies, books and other stuff for your studies. Now your left with 100-200 Euro for the month, but haven`t bought one piece of clothes or attended one party. What about the money to drive somewhere from time to time and what if some of your equipment brakes down and you need to replace it. 20 Buck for a livestream is a lot, even for an average german student.
Then do what I do and hang out with friends while watching SC2 or find a barcraft. 1 pass split 3 ways is pretty much 5/6 euros a person extra, don't tell me you can't pay for that.
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On February 14 2012 23:15 CursedFeanor wrote:
holy crap... I expected this thread to be about 50% on each side, but I must say I'm kinda disappointed at the low level of maturity of TL right now... I expected more.
"I don't want to pay some ridiculously low price for something I love!"
grow up kids. *sigh* life is about making choices. everyone here has enough money to afford such product (yes, everyone. just look at your wallet ffs. no 20$ bill there?) as long as they consider it to be worth it more then other stuff, which I certainly do. This is the right move from MLG and I realise now that I'm glad it might rid us of a bunch of spoiled kids such as many of the posters here.
please don't give me the poor student crap... I'm still a student myself and I know what it's like. never met anyone who couldnt afford to hang out on a friday night for a couple of 8$ beers at the bar though...
Your one beer would cost me 3 hours of work and my job is still well paid in my country.
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On February 14 2012 23:26 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:22 skeldark wrote:
Many people act like you do something bad if you dont pay. If something is not free, i don't watch it. Done.
I will not pay a single cent for any sc2 event.
I'm sick of this "let e-sport grow" talk. I don't care for e-sport. I don't care of the business model of tournament organisations.
I don't care if players get 100k price money or nothing.
I want to see good sc2 games, that's all.
If you guys think that this "e-sport" will grow without guys like me you are wrong.
If its not free to watch, only the few "support e-sport" guys will hang in there and it will slowly die.
I think MLG understand that. They just want to milk the "gold" guys as long as possible.
Who do you think will buy this tickets? Only the guys who already buy gsl and mlg gold tickets.
No one else. Nice, "I want to see good sc2 games, that's all.. oh wait it has to be free ofc. Cause everyone likes to entertain for free, that's what I belive atleast, because im ignorant".
Exactly i want to see good sc2 games for free. If they dont have this im not interested. Where is you problem?
you think this is impossible? look on the right, you see the stream list?
If you dont like to entertain me for free (btw you just did) i dont force you to do so. I just move on to the guys who does.
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On February 14 2012 23:21 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:15 Velr wrote:On February 14 2012 23:12 Thinasy wrote:On February 14 2012 23:11 Agathon wrote:On February 14 2012 23:08 Thinasy wrote:On February 14 2012 23:06 Anncoulpable wrote:On February 14 2012 22:44 teddyoojo wrote:On February 14 2012 22:37 syllogism wrote:On February 14 2012 22:33 teddyoojo wrote:
how in the world do they justify 20$?
gsl is 10$, and you get WAY more than 20 hours and better players.
20$ is just blown out of proportion. Costs. This is the price point they, based on the data they have available, think is required for them to justify hosting a tournament of this size and expenses. They may turn out to be wrong and adjust accordingly, but they aren't charging $20 because they are being greedy, at least in the sense this thread thinks it's being greedy. Some people will look at the price and make the same conclusion as you, some may not. In the end all that matters is how many are willing to pay, not how many people in this thread vocally complain. maybe they should rethink their business model if their tournament is bigger and more expensive but in the end the content is worse. oh wait. they get the money in through other sources else there would be no way mlg would use that kind of business model. so theres no way 20$ are justified. in the end the viewer doesnt care about mlg, all they care about is good content at a rational cost. By rational cost, you mean you want it free. People constantly feel ENTITLED to all of these tournaments, at no cost. I get that a lot of viewers aren't adults, but if that's the case, maybe they shouldn't be talking about what is and isn't fair or calling MLG some evil greedy corporation just because they are doing a few events that are PPV. If you don't even work and make money, you really aren't in a position to talk about 'fair pricing' or 'being greedy.' Charging $20 for one tournament that is an entire weekend long is not a lot of money for anyone who works for their money and doesn't have to ask mom and dad; obviously you are not their target audience for THIS event, while those of us who can afford it get a little something extra if we want. If it bothers you that much, and you're old enough, go get a job so you can afford GSL or an event like this. As a full time college student, I manage to pay my bills and afford to pay for GSL/GSTL/AoL and HD MLG streams. It has always been well within a reasonable price for the amount of quality content I receive, and I'll likely end up paying for these MLG events as well Finally someone that understands how business works. 20USD is less money then I would pay for watching a movie at a cinema here in Sweden so yeah.. It definitely isnt much money we are talking about. Yes, it's cheep. And then? How does it mean it worth it? It doesn't for many people, even if they could pay double this price with selling one of their arm. No ofc, it's worth your time when it's free am I right? I catch it when i'm home. I don't say home for it. So that now means i won't watch it when i have to pay. I imagine there are tons of people like me. I just doubt they will make more money that way... Oh, and this has like nothing to do with "growing" E-Sports.. but it has all to do with making MLG profitable. And how doesnt making MLG profitable help grow SC2 as an e-sport? MLG profitable = More MLG's = More content.
Because having less people watching but paying more is the exact OPPOSITE of something growing. It might make it more profitable for MLG but what you'll end up with are only the most dedicated fans who can also pay for it. That's why you NEED to have things like the country championship that ESL puts out so more people can get into SC by following their country's best players and getting more interested from there.
You just don't seem to understand that there is no correlation between making a quick buck =/= growth. It's just like normal society, raising taxes to unaffordable levels will reduce economic growth but will make more money in the short term. MLG does not seem interested in sowing, just harvesting.
It would aslo be nice if you could hold your ignorant, prejudiced comments for a while instead of thinking that everyone can afford shit just because you can.
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pay for techincal issu nope.
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On February 14 2012 23:27 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:25 zul wrote:On February 14 2012 23:16 Velr wrote:On February 14 2012 23:15 CursedFeanor wrote:
holy crap... I expected this thread to be about 50% on each side, but I must say I'm kinda disappointed at the low level of maturity of TL right now... I expected more.
"I don't want to pay some ridiculously low price for something I love!"
grow up kids. *sigh* life is about making choices. everyone here has enough money to afford such product (yes, everyone. just look at your wallet ffs. no 20$ bill there?) as long as they consider it to be worth it more then other stuff, which I certainly do. This is the right move from MLG and I realise now that I'm glad it might rid us of a bunch of spoiled kids such as many of the posters here.
please don't give me the poor student crap... I'm still a student myself and I know what it's like. never met anyone who couldnt afford to hang out on a friday night for a couple of 8$ beers at the bar though... I present you: Eastern Europe. Or basically next to any place in the world except NA, Western Europe and Japan/SK... AND I present you germany, where I dont know any student who buys beer for 8$. Most student have about 700-800 Euro per month. 300 goes down for rent, 10 for internet, 40 for handy, 200 for food, 50 for copies, books and other stuff for your studies. Now your left with 100-200 Euro for the month, but haven`t bought one piece of clothes or attended one party. What about the money to drive somewhere from time to time and what if some of your equipment brakes down and you need to replace it. 20 Buck for a livestream is a lot, even for an average german student. Stop making it sound like you arent living fairly well as a student will ya?.
I am no student any more, but I remember the times and nobody had much money to spare. That`s the only point I wanted to make, since some comments were like "cmon guys, 20 bucks is nothing. pay it for the love of esports".
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I have to say it's interesting to think that most people are stating as fact that everyone goes to the pub every Friday and buys drinks so can afford it, or everyone can go to their wallet and find $20, and everything is rainbows and sunshine and happiness. If that's true for you, awesome, but don't make that assumption for other people.
On the actualy subject though, even if I could afford it I still wouldn't pay for it because as many people have stated I probably won't be able to watch most of it due to the timezone thing anyway, and I think it's overpriced for a one weekend event. Obviously pricing is a subjective thing so I can't objectively say it's too much, but for me it's too high.
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On February 14 2012 23:24 drgoats wrote:
I am a little surprised by a lot of posts in this thread. I understand that it is upsetting that MLG is moving to PPV and I agree that price point might be set a little high. However, assuming that advertising will be enough to sponsor these events even after many experts in the community have said that it will not is a little confusing to me.
Asking for another alternative other than PPV is a little silly too since people have been racking their brains about this subject for some time and no one has come up with a better alternative. If companies like Gomtv and MLG do not act now they will not be in business within the next couple of years. The GSL recognized that they needed more revenue and jacked their prices up this year as well. If you want large prize pools, great streams, continuous growth, great casters and the best players then expect to pay.
Lastly, I am positive that MLG was aware that they would have a large drop in viewership. They are running a business and need to maximize profits. There is a sweet spot of viewers and price that leads to the optimal revenue. They might not have hit it yet, but as the year carries on they will probably tweak a few things to get the right price. Yes, a lot of viewers will be left out because they are not willing to pay that particular price that MLG sets but that is the nature of the beast.
People need to keep in mind that lots of us don't have a problem with MLG deciding to use fees to pay for their production costs, but that MLG pulled a bait and switch on those of us that were stupid enough to pay for a year of content in advance.
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On February 14 2012 23:21 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 23:15 Velr wrote:On February 14 2012 23:12 Thinasy wrote:On February 14 2012 23:11 Agathon wrote:On February 14 2012 23:08 Thinasy wrote:On February 14 2012 23:06 Anncoulpable wrote:On February 14 2012 22:44 teddyoojo wrote:On February 14 2012 22:37 syllogism wrote:On February 14 2012 22:33 teddyoojo wrote:
how in the world do they justify 20$?
gsl is 10$, and you get WAY more than 20 hours and better players.
20$ is just blown out of proportion. Costs. This is the price point they, based on the data they have available, think is required for them to justify hosting a tournament of this size and expenses. They may turn out to be wrong and adjust accordingly, but they aren't charging $20 because they are being greedy, at least in the sense this thread thinks it's being greedy. Some people will look at the price and make the same conclusion as you, some may not. In the end all that matters is how many are willing to pay, not how many people in this thread vocally complain. maybe they should rethink their business model if their tournament is bigger and more expensive but in the end the content is worse. oh wait. they get the money in through other sources else there would be no way mlg would use that kind of business model. so theres no way 20$ are justified. in the end the viewer doesnt care about mlg, all they care about is good content at a rational cost. By rational cost, you mean you want it free. People constantly feel ENTITLED to all of these tournaments, at no cost. I get that a lot of viewers aren't adults, but if that's the case, maybe they shouldn't be talking about what is and isn't fair or calling MLG some evil greedy corporation just because they are doing a few events that are PPV. If you don't even work and make money, you really aren't in a position to talk about 'fair pricing' or 'being greedy.' Charging $20 for one tournament that is an entire weekend long is not a lot of money for anyone who works for their money and doesn't have to ask mom and dad; obviously you are not their target audience for THIS event, while those of us who can afford it get a little something extra if we want. If it bothers you that much, and you're old enough, go get a job so you can afford GSL or an event like this. As a full time college student, I manage to pay my bills and afford to pay for GSL/GSTL/AoL and HD MLG streams. It has always been well within a reasonable price for the amount of quality content I receive, and I'll likely end up paying for these MLG events as well Finally someone that understands how business works. 20USD is less money then I would pay for watching a movie at a cinema here in Sweden so yeah.. It definitely isnt much money we are talking about. Yes, it's cheep. And then? How does it mean it worth it? It doesn't for many people, even if they could pay double this price with selling one of their arm. No ofc, it's worth your time when it's free am I right? I catch it when i'm home. I don't say home for it. So that now means i won't watch it when i have to pay. I imagine there are tons of people like me. I just doubt they will make more money that way... Oh, and this has like nothing to do with "growing" E-Sports.. but it has all to do with making MLG profitable. And how doesnt making MLG profitable help grow SC2 as an e-sport? MLG profitable = More MLG's = More content.
"More content" that the most part of the community won't be able to watch = Elitist content = Not my kind of content.
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