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Interview with StarTale european's manager - Page 2

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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 09 2012 05:53 GMT
#21
You can have passion for something, but still have to give it up if you can't make rent.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 09 2012 05:56 GMT
#22
Great interview!

J. Banks is the man when it comes to StarTale!
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 09 2012 06:00 GMT
#23
On February 09 2012 14:40 fams wrote:
First I read this question and answer:

+ Show Spoiler +

What is the most difficult thing when you decide to get involved with e-sports ? What are the things you need to be avoiding, what are the things you should do if one day someone decides to be part of all of this ?
Well what I say here is not the law but when you decide to get involved with eSports, make sure you do it because you love it and have passion for it. If you are getting involved to make money you are an idiot, one because you will fail, two because you must have passion, I am very sure I could make more money outside of eSports but what is most important is being happy and doing something I love. Also have a plan, network with people, be friendly and chase your own dream, try to be different and bring something new to the eSports world, set your own path and make your own history.



Then I read this one:

+ Show Spoiler +

Do you have something to say to the people who follows you for the Definitive eSports ?
Hello everyone! Thanks for the support, I think I would have given up already if it were not for the amazing support you people give me, I truly love the eSports community. I hope to bring you people the most amazing content possible and we hope to grow with you, just keep supporting us. You can follow us on twitter : http://www.twitter.com/D_eSports, facebook : http://www.facebook.com/DeSports, and YouTube : http://www.youtube.com/definitiveesports and finally visit our site http://www.D-eSports.com . Thank you.


So, you do eSports because you have a passion for getting e-fame and some followers? I'm confused. You say one thing, then in the next question, you say something totally different.

I don't think it's uncommon for people to get into certain businesses or industries or what-not because of their passion and to stay because they've found enough support.

Happens a lot to authors and artists. Shit, son, they love doing what they do, but if it weren't for people interested in their work, sometimes it becomes nigh-on impossible to continue with the drive they had when they first started, whether it's because of financial troubles or just plain fucking demotivation because they don't have an audience.
JBanKs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
February 09 2012 07:30 GMT
#24
On February 09 2012 14:40 fams wrote:
First I read this question and answer:

+ Show Spoiler +

What is the most difficult thing when you decide to get involved with e-sports ? What are the things you need to be avoiding, what are the things you should do if one day someone decides to be part of all of this ?
Well what I say here is not the law but when you decide to get involved with eSports, make sure you do it because you love it and have passion for it. If you are getting involved to make money you are an idiot, one because you will fail, two because you must have passion, I am very sure I could make more money outside of eSports but what is most important is being happy and doing something I love. Also have a plan, network with people, be friendly and chase your own dream, try to be different and bring something new to the eSports world, set your own path and make your own history.



Then I read this one:

+ Show Spoiler +

Do you have something to say to the people who follows you for the Definitive eSports ?
Hello everyone! Thanks for the support, I think I would have given up already if it were not for the amazing support you people give me, I truly love the eSports community. I hope to bring you people the most amazing content possible and we hope to grow with you, just keep supporting us. You can follow us on twitter : http://www.twitter.com/D_eSports, facebook : http://www.facebook.com/DeSports, and YouTube : http://www.youtube.com/definitiveesports and finally visit our site http://www.D-eSports.com . Thank you.


So, you do eSports because you have a passion for getting e-fame and some followers? I'm confused. You say one thing, then in the next question, you say something totally different.


I just got linked to this and thought I would add my own words, rather than your poor attempt to guess what that means. I love the eSports community and my passion is what drives me but when UpCloseGamers came to an end, it was very hard to want to re-build a website and build upon a new project but the community that enjoyed my content offered a of support and it encouraged me to start up D-eSports. With that being said I would of always stayed as ST's manager, it was more the motivation to build a community site again.

Either way, I do not have e-fame or followers, I leave that to the players who have awesome fans. Next time try not to read so deeply into things and maybe do a little bit of research.

Big thanks to Quantz for the interview and nice to see it on TL.
Ex-StarTale manager // @BanKseSports on twitter
fams
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada731 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 08:04:33
February 09 2012 07:44 GMT
#25
Please Delete.
http://www.twitter.com/famsytron/
fams
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada731 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 08:05:10
February 09 2012 07:59 GMT
#26
Please Delete
http://www.twitter.com/famsytron/
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
February 09 2012 08:02 GMT
#27
On February 09 2012 16:44 fams wrote:
For people arguing about "well you need money in order to keep going" or "well, you need support from people to keep up motivation"

I just want to point out some people you all probably look up to: djWHEAT, Day[9], Tasteless, Artosis, EG.IdrA, SlayerS`BoxeR.

They did all of this without eSports "footing the bills" so to speak. There were times when djWHEAT had a regular 9 to 5 day job, and he still busted his ass to make eSports something special. And I would bet you that there were days when they began, when they didn't receive a whole lot of support from fans - and sometimes family and friends. But they stuck with it - that is passion.

Saying "you should have passion if you want to do this" then turn around in the very next question and say "if I didn't actually get supported by people, I'd have probably quit" doesn't strike me as a very determined or impassioned person to me.

Also - the argument about a writer or artist, etc. If a person is doing his or her craft for OTHER people, and not themselves, then that is the underlying "passion" or "motivation" problem. If you do things solely to impress other people, you will not be happy most of the time.

When I used to do interviews at the start of my career, people weren't really that big on them, the style was poor, the questions sucked, and they weren't impressed. Why? Because I wrote them for everyone else BUT me. I started doing interviews for myself, and asking questions I thought to be interesting and that I thought needed answering, and then people tuned in and said "wow these are really good, do one with -insert player name here-".

So I am sorry I don't support this person or their views.


Damn dude, seems like you have something personal against this guy. Really going too deep into it.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
fams
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada731 Posts
February 09 2012 08:05 GMT
#28
On February 09 2012 17:02 Bayyne wrote:

Damn dude, seems like you have something personal against this guy. Really going too deep into it.

Yeah, I deleted my comments, just forget it.
http://www.twitter.com/famsytron/
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 09 2012 08:18 GMT
#29
Did not know StarTale had both a european manager and worked with UpCloseGamers, Zowie and now Definitive! Impressive!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
JBanKs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
February 09 2012 09:31 GMT
#30
On February 09 2012 17:02 Bayyne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 16:44 fams wrote:
For people arguing about "well you need money in order to keep going" or "well, you need support from people to keep up motivation"

I just want to point out some people you all probably look up to: djWHEAT, Day[9], Tasteless, Artosis, EG.IdrA, SlayerS`BoxeR.

They did all of this without eSports "footing the bills" so to speak. There were times when djWHEAT had a regular 9 to 5 day job, and he still busted his ass to make eSports something special. And I would bet you that there were days when they began, when they didn't receive a whole lot of support from fans - and sometimes family and friends. But they stuck with it - that is passion.

Saying "you should have passion if you want to do this" then turn around in the very next question and say "if I didn't actually get supported by people, I'd have probably quit" doesn't strike me as a very determined or impassioned person to me.

Also - the argument about a writer or artist, etc. If a person is doing his or her craft for OTHER people, and not themselves, then that is the underlying "passion" or "motivation" problem. If you do things solely to impress other people, you will not be happy most of the time.

When I used to do interviews at the start of my career, people weren't really that big on them, the style was poor, the questions sucked, and they weren't impressed. Why? Because I wrote them for everyone else BUT me. I started doing interviews for myself, and asking questions I thought to be interesting and that I thought needed answering, and then people tuned in and said "wow these are really good, do one with -insert player name here-".

So I am sorry I don't support this person or their views.


Damn dude, seems like you have something personal against this guy. Really going too deep into it.


I don't really know this guy, or what he does but I am used to people talking without thought and assuming a lot of things about me. It is no secret to the world that I actually do not make any money in eSports, I work a normal job to pay my bills and do everything else out of my motivation and drive. I can make it clear here as well that I have been writing and involved in eSports since 2004, more than most, the perks of the work is travelling and meeting cool people but it is by no means easy work.

I am not sure why fams seems to dislike me or my views but he is entitled to his opinion, best of luck to him for whatever he does, lets hope he continues to work hard and push further to get where he wants to go.
Ex-StarTale manager // @BanKseSports on twitter
quantz911
Profile Joined December 2011
France17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 09:43:03
February 09 2012 09:42 GMT
#31
I have to agree with James since i recently entered the world of e-sport as a writer / redactor. Passion is something you need if you want to hang out there, in the beginning especially. He is doing an awesome job as a manager of Startale as he helps a lot for seeing their players outside korea. He keeps following his dreams as he wants to help his passion (e-sports) to grow and try to do goods things for it.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 10:06:19
February 09 2012 09:51 GMT
#32
edit: Okay no worries
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
quantz911
Profile Joined December 2011
France17 Posts
February 09 2012 10:00 GMT
#33
Well i don't know what happened, when i copy / pasted it it made it like that. If you take a look on the real site you will see that it's not the case. I'll try to correct all of them, thanks for showing me that. Also, of my english is not perfect, it's because it's not my first language.
quantz911
Profile Joined December 2011
France17 Posts
February 09 2012 10:06 GMT
#34
Should be ok now, sorry i didn't notice it quick enough!
Crainey
Profile Joined August 2011
Northern Ireland101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 23:27:39
February 09 2012 23:26 GMT
#35
As a community we are just at the beginning and we have lots of growing to do, growing takes a lot of effort and commitment for little or no reward (other than peoples gratitude). Negative attitudes in the community are unwelcome and only set us back. it's best just to ignore them and not give them the time of day, they'll eventually wither up.
Good interview with BanKs, I have the pleasure of working with him on the Definitive eSports project and know just how hard he works (non-stop) so it's nice to see him being recognised.
Gaming is much more than just a hobby.
quantz911
Profile Joined December 2011
France17 Posts
February 13 2012 00:12 GMT
#36
On February 10 2012 08:26 Crainey wrote:
As a community we are just at the beginning and we have lots of growing to do, growing takes a lot of effort and commitment for little or no reward (other than peoples gratitude). Negative attitudes in the community are unwelcome and only set us back. it's best just to ignore them and not give them the time of day, they'll eventually wither up.
Good interview with BanKs, I have the pleasure of working with him on the Definitive eSports project and know just how hard he works (non-stop) so it's nice to see him being recognised.


I just agree with what you said, keep it up e-sports and banks thanks for all you are doing
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