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On February 07 2012 18:44 taitanik wrote:
im happy with chat system and i dont see nothing bad in it when i turn on sc2 i play when i need to chat with someone im not having any trouble
I hate to say it, but these kinds of responses frighten me the most, and this is the exact reason why Blizzard can expect to get away with an underdeveloped BattleNet 2.0, which is: The new consumers don't have the experiences and good memories that veterans like a lot of us have with the old BattleNet. The people who cringe at the reasons/excuses that Blizzard is giving out pertaining to how general chats, etc can be abused are the same people who have had no experience with said chat system other than Starcraft 2, and perhaps WoW (though I can't say for sure because I only played this game for a month before I got tired of it) both of which work but are extremely dumbed down versions of the original BattleNet.
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So chat channels confirmed,.
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On February 09 2012 17:25 Gurgl wrote:
Updated OP with new great information, good job SC2 and D3 community!
Good sign for SC2 chat in HOTS? :p
Good job? What do you think you did?
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Blizzard could rule the market if they continue making good games. I do not see why they would not include public chat and other wanted features. Good step forward by implementing this.
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On February 07 2012 18:46 Honga wrote:
Too many Xbox developers make me sad. When will game companies stop going backwards and realise people do not want console games on their PC. PC is a better platform for a more intricate game, and as such that's what everyone wants.
TBH too much money is put into graphics/story development, to me this is all just fluff.
Tell everyone you know to actually go out and buy PC games then, because as it stands the PC market doesn't even compare to the console one so developers choose to focus where it matters more.
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I think the chat system is a piece of shit and that we should bring back the Battle.net 1.0 system where its all-in-one. This would never happen, though. Because HERP DERP, WE NEED FACEBOOK INTEGRATION OVER EVERYTHING ELSE IN SC1.
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On February 07 2012 18:46 Honga wrote:
Too many Xbox developers make me sad. When will game companies stop going backwards and realise people do not want console games on their PC. PC is a better platform for a more intricate game, and as such that's what everyone wants.
TBH too much money is put into graphics/story development, to me this is all just fluff.
You have a reasonable opinion, but I don't think you understand how much larger the console market is. It's really not even close.
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On February 10 2012 02:35 skipdog172 wrote:In case nobody saw... Bashiok wrote: Show nested quote +Soooooo... hey everyone. How's it going? Good? Weather ok? Great... so, right... You know how sometimes you say something that's stupid and wrong and then people very reasonably get upset and create a lot of threads and discussions and demands with some pretty reasonable reasons for the thing you said wouldn't happen but then it turns out that you're stupid and wrong and the things you said are completely the opposite of what's actually true?
Yeah. So that happened. Public chat channels will be in Diablo III, barring any catastrophe that requires we remove them, because they're already implemented. In fact they'll be in an upcoming beta patch so you'll get to see and play around with them yourselves.
I'm not sure I can offer any explanation as to the incorrectness of my statements, except that I believed them to be correct when I made them. I apologize, and I'll strive to not be stupid and wrong in the future.
More info on the chat feature, and others, to come in the weeks ahead. Thanks for sticking with it, and me.
Bashiok only misspoke if his superiors misspoke, because his superiors have to sign off on pretty much everything he says on the topic.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7Xn4w.jpg)
That's the way Blizzard works now. I like Bashiok, I've talked productively with him on the forums, but I'm hard-pressed to believe that any misinformation that came out of the company was some kind of "casual mistake", as is portrayed in his post, because I guarantee you that post had to be signed off on as well.
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Something is wrong with Blizzard.
Just grow a pair and get this shit done.
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meh... people make such a big deal out of chat channels that it's pretty irrelevant when we already have IRC. What we have now is definitely acceptable and I really don't care if they improve it or not. I'm much more concerned with other things that have been present in previous blizzard games but aren't in SC2.
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Lol the thing is even if they end up not following the community's advice on fixes, the majority of the people would still pay for the games. This isn't in the early gaming industry where a boycott was actually something to be taken seriously. Once a company have monopolized the scene, there is little to nothing that the consumers can act on.
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On February 10 2012 08:45 MichaelJLowell wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 02:35 skipdog172 wrote:In case nobody saw... Bashiok wrote: Soooooo... hey everyone. How's it going? Good? Weather ok? Great... so, right... You know how sometimes you say something that's stupid and wrong and then people very reasonably get upset and create a lot of threads and discussions and demands with some pretty reasonable reasons for the thing you said wouldn't happen but then it turns out that you're stupid and wrong and the things you said are completely the opposite of what's actually true?
Yeah. So that happened. Public chat channels will be in Diablo III, barring any catastrophe that requires we remove them, because they're already implemented. In fact they'll be in an upcoming beta patch so you'll get to see and play around with them yourselves.
I'm not sure I can offer any explanation as to the incorrectness of my statements, except that I believed them to be correct when I made them. I apologize, and I'll strive to not be stupid and wrong in the future.
More info on the chat feature, and others, to come in the weeks ahead. Thanks for sticking with it, and me. Bashiok only misspoke if his superiors misspoke, because his superiors have to sign off on pretty much everything he says on the topic. That's the way Blizzard works now. I like Bashiok, I've talked productively with him on the forums, but I'm hard-pressed to believe that any misinformation that came out of the company was some kind of "casual mistake", as is portrayed in his post, because I guarantee you that post had to be signed off on as well.
No, thats not the way blizzard works now. Just because you say it is, doesnt make it so. If he had to have his superiors sign off on everything he says, then his superiors may as well be posting as him.
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I accept his apology, but then I wasn't one of the people getting all upset over chat channels. I'm also inclined to believe him if chat channels will be in the/a upcoming patch. With how long it took to implement them for SC2 I doubt they could change their mind for D3 and implement them that fast. Mistakes happen.
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On February 10 2012 10:00 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 08:45 MichaelJLowell wrote:On February 10 2012 02:35 skipdog172 wrote:In case nobody saw... Bashiok wrote: Soooooo... hey everyone. How's it going? Good? Weather ok? Great... so, right... You know how sometimes you say something that's stupid and wrong and then people very reasonably get upset and create a lot of threads and discussions and demands with some pretty reasonable reasons for the thing you said wouldn't happen but then it turns out that you're stupid and wrong and the things you said are completely the opposite of what's actually true?
Yeah. So that happened. Public chat channels will be in Diablo III, barring any catastrophe that requires we remove them, because they're already implemented. In fact they'll be in an upcoming beta patch so you'll get to see and play around with them yourselves.
I'm not sure I can offer any explanation as to the incorrectness of my statements, except that I believed them to be correct when I made them. I apologize, and I'll strive to not be stupid and wrong in the future.
More info on the chat feature, and others, to come in the weeks ahead. Thanks for sticking with it, and me. Bashiok only misspoke if his superiors misspoke, because his superiors have to sign off on pretty much everything he says on the topic. That's the way Blizzard works now. I like Bashiok, I've talked productively with him on the forums, but I'm hard-pressed to believe that any misinformation that came out of the company was some kind of "casual mistake", as is portrayed in his post, because I guarantee you that post had to be signed off on as well. No, thats not the way blizzard works now. Just because you say it is, doesnt make it so. If he had to have his superiors sign off on everything he says, then his superiors may as well be posting as him.
You dont talk about major features being in or out without confirmation from superiors. It's pretty simple when you're the mouthpiece you get your marching orders from the devs themselves on key things like that. Someone had a change of heart after the backlash, again. CMs most likely have a guide of stuff they can generally say so they dont have to constantly talk to the team about mundane things.
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On February 10 2012 08:40 hmunkey wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 18:46 Honga wrote:
Too many Xbox developers make me sad. When will game companies stop going backwards and realise people do not want console games on their PC. PC is a better platform for a more intricate game, and as such that's what everyone wants.
TBH too much money is put into graphics/story development, to me this is all just fluff. Tell everyone you know to actually go out and buy PC games then, because as it stands the PC market doesn't even compare to the console one so developers choose to focus where it matters more.
Neither does the amount of investment from developers though. A company can nurture a market not just exploit it. There's about 100 million combined xbox 360s and PS3s in the market. There's easily over 10 times as many PCs. Granted almost everyone with a console wants to play and purchase video games and the same can't b e said for people with a pc. BUT, either way you spin it there's still vast amounts of money to be made from pc games development. To many developers are taking the easier ride (smartphones and consoles) or too busy looking under their bed for pirates to reap the rewards the PC platform has to offer. Still, one persons loss is another persons gain.
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It was a terrible decision to hire xbox developers to make bnet 2.0. They have absolutely no idea what made the PC community what it is today, and bnet 1.0 is one of the systems that got it right. They're more concerned about making things "metro" and "pretty" which in reality is not very functional to a regular PC gamer.
It works well for xbox just due to the nature of how the dashboard is something you boot up to, party up with friends, and not spend a lot of time on. You quickly boot straight into the game itself usually. PC gaming is more centralized around clans, guilds, and the community in general. You can't apply both ideas to both.
It surprises me that no one has brought this up to revamp bnet 0.2 to more similar what WC3 had. That was a wonderful system.
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On February 10 2012 10:28 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 10:00 TheRabidDeer wrote:On February 10 2012 08:45 MichaelJLowell wrote:On February 10 2012 02:35 skipdog172 wrote:In case nobody saw... Bashiok wrote: Soooooo... hey everyone. How's it going? Good? Weather ok? Great... so, right... You know how sometimes you say something that's stupid and wrong and then people very reasonably get upset and create a lot of threads and discussions and demands with some pretty reasonable reasons for the thing you said wouldn't happen but then it turns out that you're stupid and wrong and the things you said are completely the opposite of what's actually true?
Yeah. So that happened. Public chat channels will be in Diablo III, barring any catastrophe that requires we remove them, because they're already implemented. In fact they'll be in an upcoming beta patch so you'll get to see and play around with them yourselves.
I'm not sure I can offer any explanation as to the incorrectness of my statements, except that I believed them to be correct when I made them. I apologize, and I'll strive to not be stupid and wrong in the future.
More info on the chat feature, and others, to come in the weeks ahead. Thanks for sticking with it, and me. Bashiok only misspoke if his superiors misspoke, because his superiors have to sign off on pretty much everything he says on the topic. That's the way Blizzard works now. I like Bashiok, I've talked productively with him on the forums, but I'm hard-pressed to believe that any misinformation that came out of the company was some kind of "casual mistake", as is portrayed in his post, because I guarantee you that post had to be signed off on as well. No, thats not the way blizzard works now. Just because you say it is, doesnt make it so. If he had to have his superiors sign off on everything he says, then his superiors may as well be posting as him. You dont talk about major features being in or out without confirmation from superiors. It's pretty simple when you're the mouthpiece you get your marching orders from the devs themselves on key things like that. Someone had a change of heart after the backlash, again. CMs most likely have a guide of stuff they can generally say so they dont have to constantly talk to the team about mundane things.
You would be surprised. Until you can come up with proof that blizzard changed their hearts, it is another CM oops moment. I dont know if you will know/remember, but a CM has lost his job in the past because of things he has said, so it wouldnt be the first time.
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Make it customizable will be great.
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On February 10 2012 10:57 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 10:28 Serpico wrote:On February 10 2012 10:00 TheRabidDeer wrote:On February 10 2012 08:45 MichaelJLowell wrote:On February 10 2012 02:35 skipdog172 wrote:In case nobody saw... Bashiok wrote: Soooooo... hey everyone. How's it going? Good? Weather ok? Great... so, right... You know how sometimes you say something that's stupid and wrong and then people very reasonably get upset and create a lot of threads and discussions and demands with some pretty reasonable reasons for the thing you said wouldn't happen but then it turns out that you're stupid and wrong and the things you said are completely the opposite of what's actually true?
Yeah. So that happened. Public chat channels will be in Diablo III, barring any catastrophe that requires we remove them, because they're already implemented. In fact they'll be in an upcoming beta patch so you'll get to see and play around with them yourselves.
I'm not sure I can offer any explanation as to the incorrectness of my statements, except that I believed them to be correct when I made them. I apologize, and I'll strive to not be stupid and wrong in the future.
More info on the chat feature, and others, to come in the weeks ahead. Thanks for sticking with it, and me. Bashiok only misspoke if his superiors misspoke, because his superiors have to sign off on pretty much everything he says on the topic. That's the way Blizzard works now. I like Bashiok, I've talked productively with him on the forums, but I'm hard-pressed to believe that any misinformation that came out of the company was some kind of "casual mistake", as is portrayed in his post, because I guarantee you that post had to be signed off on as well. No, thats not the way blizzard works now. Just because you say it is, doesnt make it so. If he had to have his superiors sign off on everything he says, then his superiors may as well be posting as him. You dont talk about major features being in or out without confirmation from superiors. It's pretty simple when you're the mouthpiece you get your marching orders from the devs themselves on key things like that. Someone had a change of heart after the backlash, again. CMs most likely have a guide of stuff they can generally say so they dont have to constantly talk to the team about mundane things. You would be surprised. Until you can come up with proof that blizzard changed their hearts, it is another CM oops moment. I dont know if you will know/remember, but a CM has lost his job in the past because of things he has said, so it wouldnt be the first time.
Perhaps thats why they might need to get their posts approved first, sounds reasonable.
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Have blizzards noob developers ever heard of IRC???
Yeah lets remake the wheel. Instead of making it round. We'll make it square. That's just more modern.
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