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RAZER, ESAHARA AND OLD GENERATIONS FORM A NEW INTERNATIONAL E-SPORTS ALLIANCE
Trifecta forms to extend support for Korean and international gamer
Carlsbad, Calif. – February 3rd, 2012 – Razer, one of the world’s pioneering supporters of e-Sports, eSahara, France-based European e-Sports organisation, and Old Generations (oGs), professional South Korean StarCraft II team, have formed a partnership to help grow each other’s presence in Korean and international e-Sports.
The partnership between all three organisations looks towards developing the ability for European pro-gamers to immerse themselves in a Korean training environment, and for Korean pro-gamers to have more opportunities to participate in international competitions with Razer’s financial support and provision of high-end peripherals to strengthen the project.
eSahara, formed in 2010, consists of some of the most competitive and well-known personalities in their disciplines, including professional French Counter-Strike 1.6 team, captained by star player Mickael “mSx” Cassisi, a StarCraft II roster brimming with international talent, including ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/9/9d/Ticon_small.png) Santeri “Naama” Lahtinen, top-class Ukrainian DotA2 team and Quake legend Kevin “strenx” Baéza.
oGs, known to many as one of the most competitive Korean StarCraft II rosters, boast a host of strong professional players, including hugely popular ex-Brood War pro, Lee “NaDa” Yoon Yeol, Terran extraordinaire ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/9/9d/Ticon_small.png ) Kim “SuperNoVa” Young Jin and GSL August runner up Kim “TOP” Jung Hoon. Based out of Incheon, South Korea, oGs surround themselves with a hugely professional training environment to ensure the best possible results in a brutally competitive Korean StarCraft II scene.
With opportunities for both Korean and international players now wide open for both teams, the agreement was made to name and tag the team, “oGs.eSahara” for all domestic Korean events and, “eSahara.oGs” for all international events.
"Razer is proud to be partnering with these incredibly talented teams, eSahara and oGs. Other than the phenomenal Counter Strike and DotA2 line-up, they are bringing in a vast talent pool of StarCraft II players" says Robert "RazerGuy" Krakoff, President, Razer USA. "With our commitment to this partnership, Razer will be doing its part to see an increased presence of the high-skilled players of oGs in international events, and an emphasis on a professional training environment for eSahara’s international players.”
“eSahara is very happy to start our partnership with Old Generations and Razer,” said Ryad Abour, CEO of eSahara. “We have many exciting projects in the future that our fans and followers have to look forward to as a result of this strong alliance between the three of us and e-Sports will undoubtedly be better off as a whole with our combined efforts.”
“It is an honor to be in a partnership with such a great brand as Razer which supports the best teams across the globe,” said Park “TheWind” Sang Ik, Head Coach of Old Generations. “oGs has always had outstanding respect for Razer's passion towards StarCraft II and e-Sports as a whole, having designed a lot of highly competitive gear to help gamers be their best. oGs, in association with eSahara, will strive to make their partners proud by showing good games and good results in 2012 and beyond.”
On the oGs and Team Liquid Relationship:
"Hi guys
I am the Head Manager of oGs, "Spunky". It seems we missed a few points in this article and let me clear things up:
oGs relationship is not going to change with TL. To make things simple: oGs and TL are more like family, we can't even really call each other business partners. I love all the players on the team and have great relations with Nazgul.
Currently we are sharing this home out of neutrual benefits through practice for players and TL always supports and helps our oGs players. So, nothing is changing!
Our partnership with eSahara is more like what we had with sk-gaming during 2011. Although our business partnership did end a way I did not want it to towards the end with sk-gaming, we are looking to have a successful year with eSahara where both parties can benefit lots. I love eSahara's CEO Ryad, very cool guy, and I hope all of you look forward to what our partnership can show through out 2012 for the improvement of both teams!
I'm looking forward to it so all of you guys should as well
I always thank everyone for cheering for our team, I know oGs has not been dominating as badly as we did early 2011 but I can tell you guys for sure - we are prepared to dominate all during 2012 with support from eSahara and TL!"
About Razer:
Razer has been a pioneering supporter of e-Sports since its conception. It is in our blood and we are driven to further the culture of professional gaming in all that we do. We work hand in hand with our pros to forge weaponry for the players who stake their livelihood on podium placements. Our gear is designed to perform flawlessly in high-stress tournament conditions where winning is everything and mistakes cost championships. Those who compete with our equipment will attest – We live by our words: For Gamers. By Gamers.
For more information, please visit http://www.razerzone.com
About eSahara:
Electronic Sahara (eSahara), founded in 2006, has been originally known as the biggest e-sports portal and community in the Maghreb region. In 2010 the new management decided to develop eSahara more in the e-Sports scene with great success. In less than 2 years, after recruiting several promising talents eSahara became one of the best multi-gaming organisations in Europe. In order to achieve its goals, eSahara has surrounded itself with internationally recognized brands, such as Razer, to support its ambitious projects.
For more information, please visit http://www.esahara.net
About Old Generations:
Old Generations is a StarCraft II pro-gaming team based in Incheon, South Korea. The close group of players and coaches strive towards professionalism and success in one of the world’s fastest growing electronic sports. The majority of Old Generations roster were previously professional StarCraft: Brood War players or coaches, some of them finding great success there. Nurturing a close relationship with US-based team, Team Liquid, oGs are seen as a popular organisation in StarCraft II with fans and strive to provide the best and most exciting results possible.
For more information, please visit http://ogs.kr
Press contacts:
Razer
Christopher “Razer|Right” Mitchell
Razer e-Sports Manager
sponsorships@razerzone.com
eSahara
Ryad Abour
eSahara President
contact@esahara.net
oGs
Kyu Hoon “Spunky” Hwang
oGs Director
spunky@pskr.com
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RAZER SPONSORS SUPERNOVA TO EMBARK ON HIS FIRST INTERNATIONAL STARCRAFT II TOURNAMENT
Razer supports eSahara.oGsSupernova to attend the Intel Extreme Masters Global Challenge, Sao Paulo
Carlsbad, Calif. – February 3rd, 2012 – Razer, one of the world’s pioneering supporters of e-Sports, in association with, eSahara and Old Generations, will be sending Kim “SuperNoVa” Young Jin to his first ever international StarCraft II event in Sao Paulo, Brazil.
Picked as one of the few Korean invites to the tournament by the organizers of the Intel Extreme Masters, Terran player Kim “SuperNoVa” Young Jin is one of StarCraft II’s most competitive and consistent individuals to date – a regular feature in the Korean GSL Code S competition - and Razer will be supporting his journey to the other side of the world in order to compete for a spot in the Intel Extreme Masters World Finals in Hannover.
“I have been waiting and wanting to play in international tournaments for a long time now,” says Kim “SuperNoVa” Young Jin, the Old Generations Ace player. “Finally this opportunity has come with Razer's sponsorship and I will make sure to come back to Korea with the #1 title and the hopes of competing at the Intel Extreme Masters World Championships next month.”
Seen as both a rare and momentous opportunity for SuperNoVa , the tournament will be the first in a line of many this year in which the player will be given the chance to broaden his experience on a global level in the game, a chance that few other Korean players are afforded.
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So what does this mean for Team Liquid?
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Cool stuff. eSahara stepping it up!
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Hmm...well that is cool. I hope it works out for everyone.
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WOW! nice , this is SICK , I don't even know what else to say besides WOW!! ESPORTS TRIFECTA!! 
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Does this affect oGs/tl at all?
Cool for Naama and more sponsors for oGs.
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
I hope this doesn't interfere with the oGs-TL partnership. Otherwise, awesome news!
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Naama is going to reck in Korea now. :=)
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Italy12246 Posts
On February 03 2012 20:37 Spaceneil8 wrote:
So what does this mean for Team Liquid?
I was wondering the same thing. oGs has always been known (in theory) as oGs-TL; but on the other hand, Razer also sponsors liquid. Wierd.
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hongun, check and maka to oGs house?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On February 03 2012 20:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
Does this affect oGs/tl at all?
Cool for Naama and more sponsors for oGs.
it doesn't
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In the near future we will have a thread about eSahara.TOP and eSahara.Supernova.
Btw. What about TeamLiquid?
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Hopefully this won't affect oGs=TL. That would be really bad, but hopefully the e-Sahara koreans can live in oGs house
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oGs-TL-SK-Razer-eSahara
They're gonna have a lot of logos on their shirts...
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Cool this is why I buy razer goods (even tho my marauder keyboard broke down after 6 months :O)
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Careful oGs, don't lose other players such as Nada to foreign teams now. >_>
eSahara is pretty chill though, I like their Korean players. Not a huge fan of a couple of their foreigners but that is NBD.
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This is great news, good to see Razer getting even more involved where ever possible, can't wait to see more oGs players at foreign tournaments. Wondering why MC left, this could have been in the works whilst he was still at oGs :/
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Very happy for eSahara! They have a really sick and under-rated line-up and you can probably expect them to be owning face very soon!
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Sick news for eShara
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eSahara is growing faster and faster. Pretty cool
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On February 03 2012 20:46 FirmTofu wrote:
oGs-TL-SK-Razer-eSahara
They're gonna have a lot of logos on their shirts...
oGs-SK is finished, and has been over since MC left oGs. SK doesn't support NaDa anymore
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United States33390 Posts
No effect on oGs-TL guys :o
think of it like the oGs-SK thing in the past, it was independent of TL
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
So this does not effect anything TL-oGs has with eachother :S
The SK-oGs deal was just fo 2 specific players, and when they signed MC fully that deal stopped right? SKNaDa isn't happening now and they no longer support oGs?
E-Sahara oGs and Razer announce this? Without anything with TL hmmm, so confusing!
oh well, pleased for E-Sahara they are going the right way with everything they are doing, signing nice good solid players and training them in Korea and now joining with a very good Korean team with great players and what i see a great atmosphere and manager in Spunky. GL HF!!
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Yeah, I guess ogs likes it when somebody pays the bills for international travel
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Does it mean that the players are relocating to the oGs-house? This news-post explains exactly nothing. Anyways, good to see more success for eSahara.
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Didn't see this coming. Great for eSahara and oGs.
I would have expected the oGs-TL partnership to evolve to something like this. Now I can't see what's in it for oGs other than cashing in a bit of rent for Jinro and soon Haypro. You don't need a partnership for that though.
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It will also be interesting to see what will happen in GSTL in the future, will they be allowed to pull players from all three teams? There will be a limit I imagine and the one to be kicked out will inevitably be TL.
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so will be gstl still be ogs-tl or ogs esahara?
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On February 03 2012 21:01 Waxangel wrote:
No effect on oGs-TL guys :o
think of it like the oGs-SK thing in the past, it was independent of TL
So it will be oGs.eSahara-TL in GSTL?
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On February 03 2012 21:10 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 21:01 Waxangel wrote:
No effect on oGs-TL guys :o
think of it like the oGs-SK thing in the past, it was independent of TL So it will be oGs.eSahara-TL in GSTL?
Semantics. 
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Looks awesome, I hope eSahara doesn't have any more problems and keeps on growing so fast.
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On February 03 2012 21:14 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 21:10 Longshank wrote:On February 03 2012 21:01 Waxangel wrote:
No effect on oGs-TL guys :o
think of it like the oGs-SK thing in the past, it was independent of TL So it will be oGs.eSahara-TL in GSTL? Semantics.
No, it's not about the name but if they will be allowed to pull players from all three teams.
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On February 03 2012 21:10 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 21:01 Waxangel wrote:
No effect on oGs-TL guys :o
think of it like the oGs-SK thing in the past, it was independent of TL So it will be oGs.eSahara-TL in GSTL?
Team RAZER
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So it's like the oGs and SK deal except ... better?
GL to both oGs and eSahara on the partnership.
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Nice.
I hope it wont strike back in any way as eShara deals did in the past.
I hope they keep the oGs tag for the koreans too. :d
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Go eSahara! 2012 will be a great year!
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Hi guys,
I am the head manager of oGs Spunky, it seems we missed a few points in this article and let me clear things up:
oGs relationship is not going to change with TL. To make things simple: oGs and TL are more like family, we can't even really call each other business partners. I love all the players on the team and have great relations with Nazgul.
Currently we are sharing this home out of neutrual benefits through practice for players and TL always supports and helps our oGs players. So, nothing is changing!
Our partnership with eSahara is more like what we had with sk-gaming during 2011. Although our business partnership did end a way I did not want it to towards the end with sk-gaming, we are looking to have a successful year with eSahara where both parties can benefit lots. I love eSahara's CEO Ryad, very cool guy, and I hope all of you look forward to what our partnership can show through out 2012 for the improvement of both teams!
I'm looking forward to it so all of you guys should as well
I always thank everyone for cheering for our team, I know oGs has not been dominating as badly as we did early 2011 but I can tell you guys for sure - we are prepared to dominate all during 2012 with support from eSahara and TL!
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I don't like it. Hopefully this stays a purely business relationship and doesn't effect oGs/TL bond.
Considering how oGs-SK ended up, I would have thought they would have been more wary of forming these deals. -_-
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Someone told me that MC left OGS because after the SK partnership ended there were no plans to send players overseas, I guess if this is true he's gonna be regretting his decision..
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does that mean naama will live in the ogs house? would be sick
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So is oGs still allowed to use liquid mercenarys? Like HuK playing for them in the gstl a few months ago.
I would get huge nerd chills if some grand alliance between eSahara oGs and Liquid sponsored by Razer would be founded :D.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
On February 03 2012 21:24 Spunky wrote:Hi guys, I am the head manager of oGs Spunky, it seems we missed a few points in this article and let me clear things up: oGs relationship is not going to change with TL. To make things simple: oGs and TL are more like family, we can't even really call each other business partners. I love all the players on the team and have great relations with Nazgul. Currently we are sharing this home out of neutrual benefits through practice for players and TL always supports and helps our oGs players. So, nothing is changing! Our partnership with eSahara is more like what we had with sk-gaming during 2011. Although our business partnership did end a way I did not want it to towards the end with sk-gaming, we are looking to have a successful year with eSahara where both parties can benefit lots. I love eSahara's CEO Ryad, very cool guy, and I hope all of you look forward to what our partnership can show through out 2012 for the improvement of both teams! I'm looking forward to it so all of you guys should as well I always thank everyone for cheering for our team, I know oGs has not been dominating as badly as we did early 2011 but I can tell you guys for sure - we are prepared to dominate all during 2012 with support from eSahara and TL!
Spunky you legend!! Thanks for this, such a pro nerd baller add this to OP asap please MODs
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woooooow strenx!!!!!!!
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will naama and deathangel go now training to the OGS-TL house??
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So awesome. eSahara shaping out to be a better team everyday. Glad to see oGs found a new partnership after that unfortunate ending with sk. Best of luck to both teams =)
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Sick news, especially with Spunkys clarifications this makes me very happy. :D
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eSahara is becoming to be my favorite team with tl
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Sounds cool ^^ Hope oGs keeps their players in the end though I really like Naama and oGs so this is great, and with TL still standing strong, I couldn't be happier
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Wish razer hadn't dropped Grubby so he could be in on this 
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I don't like this. Wish oGs could build their own strong economical base instead of relying on a shady French team that doesn't have a good reputation and neither do they have any sponsors (from looking at their website), which makes them even more shady.
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what about the plane tickets? will it be Santeri “oGs-eSahara.Naama” Lahtinen on one way and Santeri “eSahara-oGs.Naama” Lahtinen on the other way?
J/K sick partnership, happy for you guys!
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Italy12246 Posts
On February 03 2012 22:15 Derrida wrote:Wish razer hadn't dropped Grubby so he could be in on this
That was Steelseries, not Razer.
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On February 03 2012 22:15 Derrida wrote:Wish razer hadn't dropped Grubby so he could be in on this
Steelseries sponsored grubby not razer.
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I would totally go out and buy some Razer products, but I've already got a keyboard and mouse from them... Oh, and I'm broke now
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Aahh when I first read this I was worried about TL-ogs relationship, glad that it not being affected.
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Sick news ! eSahara growing stronger and stronger
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On February 03 2012 22:15 Eee wrote:
I don't like this. Wish oGs could build their own strong economical base instead of relying on a shady French team that doesn't have a good reputation and neither do they have any sponsors (from looking at their website), which makes them even more shady.
Where comes from the shades you see in them, apart from your own decision? What bad reputation they carry? It is not even like, in the case that partnership comes to an end, like most of them will eventually do, that's going to cost oGs anything, and that it didn't bring them anything good while it was running. For the mere curiosity, since you chose to look only from oGs point of vue, whereas both sign the same sheet of paper, did you feel that empathic towards IM when they backed out of their engagements with Quantic Gaming?
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Honestly, unless more concret details about what the partnership entails are made public I wouldn't get all hyped up. I get what OGs gets out of this (travel expenses), but what are the benefits for E-Sahara? Are some of them going to be in the OGs-house? From the op it doesn't seem to be the case. If all there is to it is the shared tag, it's not really impressive. If an OGs player wins a tourney, foreign or domestic it will still be an OGs victory and E-Sahara will at most be an aftertought much like it was with SK/OGs or it is with CoL/MvP.
At least this is how I feel about it so I hope there is more to it.
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I think its entertaining that Maghreb is the roots for both ESahara and Islamic Maghreb, the Al Qaeda organization.
The kids in high school over there has to face some odd career options.
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On February 03 2012 22:40 Legio wrote:
I think its entertaining that Maghreb is the roots for both ESahara and Islamic Maghreb, the Al Qaeda organization.
The kids in high school over there has to face some odd career options.
0/10.
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Cool news. Does that mean that Maka is on oGs.eSahara / eSahara.oGs?
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Great news!
I lol'ed at the guy who asks what happen to TL relationship because he clearly didn't read the whole thing
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Thank you Razer Mabie i should buy a new Razer keyboard!
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On February 03 2012 22:51 Senros wrote:Great news! I lol'ed at the guy who asks what happen to TL relationship because he clearly didn't read the whole thing
TL Mob gotta use dem pitchforks heh.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On February 03 2012 22:40 Legio wrote:
I think its entertaining that Maghreb is the roots for both ESahara and Islamic Maghreb, the Al Qaeda organization.
The kids in high school over there has to face some odd career options.
what the fuck?
how could you even compare the two like that.
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On February 03 2012 22:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 22:40 Legio wrote:
I think its entertaining that Maghreb is the roots for both ESahara and Islamic Maghreb, the Al Qaeda organization.
The kids in high school over there has to face some odd career options. what the fuck? how could you even compare the two like that.
Obviously because he has a keyboard.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On February 03 2012 22:53 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 22:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 03 2012 22:40 Legio wrote:
I think its entertaining that Maghreb is the roots for both ESahara and Islamic Maghreb, the Al Qaeda organization.
The kids in high school over there has to face some odd career options. what the fuck? how could you even compare the two like that. Obviously because he has a keyboard.
ha ha ha you are so funny, I'm dying of laughter.
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Germany2687 Posts
On February 03 2012 22:51 Senros wrote:Great news! I lol'ed at the guy who asks what happen to TL relationship because he clearly didn't read the whole thing
The explanation given by Spunky came a bit later and was added into the OP, so it was a more or less valid concern.
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On February 03 2012 22:28 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 22:15 Eee wrote:
I don't like this. Wish oGs could build their own strong economical base instead of relying on a shady French team that doesn't have a good reputation and neither do they have any sponsors (from looking at their website), which makes them even more shady. Where comes from the shades you see in them, apart from your own decision? What bad reputation they carry? It is not even like, in the case that partnership comes to an end, like most of them will eventually do, that's going to cost oGs anything, and that it didn't bring them anything good while it was running. For the mere curiosity, since you chose to look only from oGs point of vue, whereas both sign the same sheet of paper, did you feel that empathic towards IM when they backed out of their engagements with Quantic Gaming?
I kind of did, IM case is even a better example. They had four of the best players in Korea on their roster (MVP, Nestea, Losira and Happy), they could've easily built a strong trademark on their own without Quantics help and built a strong economic base (which they eventually realised).
I'd think anybody would say that the QIM agreement helped Quantics trademark far more than it helped IM's trademark, so besides from the money Nestea and MVP won under that short time it didn't really help IMs trademark that much really. Luckily IM coach was smart and pulled out of that deal and realised that this is not the way to build a strong trademark, and now they've started doing the IM shows with Hwanni and have more coming up!
Thing is during a deal like this, it usually make it a lot harder to gain sponsors (due to the fact that new sponsorships might hurt the sponsors that are involved in the deal, i.e. Since razer are sponsoring this deal it is pretty much crossed of the list that oGs will be able to sign deals with mouse/keyboard producers, and since Razer are moving in to producing laptops this year it might even hurt sponsorships from that end).
When an agreement like this ends oGs will be back on square one and will be having the same troubles sending their players to events, and due to that we might just see more players leaving the team to have financial stability and being able to travel to events (The MC case for example).
eSahara has in the past months showed on several ocassions that their management cannot act professionally, now when oGs are affiliated with them future events will also hurt the oGs trademark/reputation.
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Wow... eSahara must have some serious investor money or something, they're making huge moves this year!
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On February 03 2012 22:51 Senros wrote:Great news! I lol'ed at the guy who asks what happen to TL relationship because he clearly didn't read the whole thing
So what will happen in the GSTL then? That is still unclear. And Spunky's reply was added later.
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TL is sponsored by Razer too right? So why isn't TL added to this Trifecta?
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If eSahara players are gonna stay at the oGs house, I feel sorry for carn.
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This is really bizarre, but congrats to all parties involved!
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Congratz, eSahara is here to stay, hopefully the partnership will last for a long time.
It's a terran party!
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On February 03 2012 21:24 Spunky wrote:Hi guys, I am the head manager of oGs Spunky, it seems we missed a few points in this article and let me clear things up: oGs relationship is not going to change with TL. To make things simple: oGs and TL are more like family, we can't even really call each other business partners. I love all the players on the team and have great relations with Nazgul. Currently we are sharing this home out of neutrual benefits through practice for players and TL always supports and helps our oGs players. So, nothing is changing! Our partnership with eSahara is more like what we had with sk-gaming during 2011. Although our business partnership did end a way I did not want it to towards the end with sk-gaming, we are looking to have a successful year with eSahara where both parties can benefit lots. I love eSahara's CEO Ryad, very cool guy, and I hope all of you look forward to what our partnership can show through out 2012 for the improvement of both teams! I'm looking forward to it so all of you guys should as well I always thank everyone for cheering for our team, I know oGs has not been dominating as badly as we did early 2011 but I can tell you guys for sure - we are prepared to dominate all during 2012 with support from eSahara and TL!
Interesting...
Also this is the first statement i've seen from anyone oGs about the MC transfer and they don't seem to happy about that.
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You guys are way to pessimistic. As far as I can tell, esahara is a great team and Ogs needs sponsors to send out players and if this can provide it so be it. Ogs and tL are like family so there is no reason to believe they would kick jinro out so everything seems great to me. Gl to everyone involved
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Italy12246 Posts
On February 03 2012 22:51 Senros wrote:Great news! I lol'ed at the guy who asks what happen to TL relationship because he clearly didn't read the whole thing
How about you read the whole thing yourself and realize the post was edited with spunky's response, a full page after people asked what would happen?
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really cool, let's hope it lasts long
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I hope all Korean teams get something similar so they can all prosper and not have to worry about making ends meet. OGS fighting!
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so is Naama going to oGs house now?
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Congrats to oGs and eSahara!
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On February 03 2012 23:00 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 22:28 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 03 2012 22:15 Eee wrote:
I don't like this. Wish oGs could build their own strong economical base instead of relying on a shady French team that doesn't have a good reputation and neither do they have any sponsors (from looking at their website), which makes them even more shady. Where comes from the shades you see in them, apart from your own decision? What bad reputation they carry? It is not even like, in the case that partnership comes to an end, like most of them will eventually do, that's going to cost oGs anything, and that it didn't bring them anything good while it was running. For the mere curiosity, since you chose to look only from oGs point of vue, whereas both sign the same sheet of paper, did you feel that empathic towards IM when they backed out of their engagements with Quantic Gaming? I kind of did, IM case is even a better example. They had four of the best players in Korea on their roster (MVP, Nestea, Losira and Happy), they could've easily built a strong trademark on their own without Quantics help and built a strong economic base (which they eventually realised). I'd think anybody would say that the QIM agreement helped Quantics trademark far more than it helped IM's trademark, so besides from the money Nestea and MVP won under that short time it didn't really help IMs trademark that much really. Luckily IM coach was smart and pulled out of that deal and realised that this is not the way to build a strong trademark, and now they've started doing the IM shows with Hwanni and have more coming up! Thing is during a deal like this, it usually make it a lot harder to gain sponsors (due to the fact that new sponsorships might hurt the sponsors that are involved in the deal, i.e. Since razer are sponsoring this deal it is pretty much crossed of the list that oGs will be able to sign deals with mouse/keyboard producers, and since Razer are moving in to producing laptops this year it might even hurt sponsorships from that end). When an agreement like this ends oGs will be back on square one and will be having the same troubles sending their players to events, and due to that we might just see more players leaving the team to have financial stability and being able to travel to events (The MC case for example). eSahara has in the past months showed on several ocassions that their management cannot act professionally, now when oGs are affiliated with them future events will also hurt the oGs trademark/reputation.
You seem very hung up on the word trademark. It's not worth a shit if you can get sponsors and evidently from all the foreign teams partnering with Korean teams, it's not easy pickings to get sponsors in Korea. Saying that they can build an economic base themselves is nothing more than wishful thinking or speculating by your part. And you are seriously exaggurating the issues with having razor as a sponsor. You can't have it both ways.
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This is really interesting to me. I have to wonder why Razer decided to do this. I see what oGs gets out of the deal, and I also see what eSahara gets out of the deal. People should remember that eSahara is a pretty new team in sc2, so it's important for them to get their name out there.
However, what I'm not sure about is why Razer didn't just directly sponsor oGs for international travel. From the point of view of oGs and Razer I'm not sure what the point is of involving eSahara, assuming that the money is coming from Razer (who is the sponsor, after all.)
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Gogo Razer!
I'm happy for eSahara. <3
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Pretty big announcement, first organization to do a triple alliance?
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On February 03 2012 23:00 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 22:28 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 03 2012 22:15 Eee wrote:
I don't like this. Wish oGs could build their own strong economical base instead of relying on a shady French team that doesn't have a good reputation and neither do they have any sponsors (from looking at their website), which makes them even more shady. Where comes from the shades you see in them, apart from your own decision? What bad reputation they carry? It is not even like, in the case that partnership comes to an end, like most of them will eventually do, that's going to cost oGs anything, and that it didn't bring them anything good while it was running. For the mere curiosity, since you chose to look only from oGs point of vue, whereas both sign the same sheet of paper, did you feel that empathic towards IM when they backed out of their engagements with Quantic Gaming? I kind of did, IM case is even a better example. They had four of the best players in Korea on their roster (MVP, Nestea, Losira and Happy), they could've easily built a strong trademark on their own without Quantics help and built a strong economic base (which they eventually realised). I'd think anybody would say that the QIM agreement helped Quantics trademark far more than it helped IM's trademark, so besides from the money Nestea and MVP won under that short time it didn't really help IMs trademark that much really. Luckily IM coach was smart and pulled out of that deal and realised that this is not the way to build a strong trademark, and now they've started doing the IM shows with Hwanni and have more coming up! Thing is during a deal like this, it usually make it a lot harder to gain sponsors (due to the fact that new sponsorships might hurt the sponsors that are involved in the deal, i.e. Since razer are sponsoring this deal it is pretty much crossed of the list that oGs will be able to sign deals with mouse/keyboard producers, and since Razer are moving in to producing laptops this year it might even hurt sponsorships from that end). When an agreement like this ends oGs will be back on square one and will be having the same troubles sending their players to events, and due to that we might just see more players leaving the team to have financial stability and being able to travel to events (The MC case for example). eSahara has in the past months showed on several ocassions that their management cannot act professionally, now when oGs are affiliated with them future events will also hurt the oGs trademark/reputation.
If IM could have built "their own strong trademark" and "their own economic base" without Quantic Gaming's help, why didn't have they done it in the first place? If they didn't need Quantic to send their players oversea to MLG's and Blizzcon and could have done it by themselves, they had no business giving Quantic advantages back at their own cost.
You're telling me that IM didn't receive a better part of the deal than Quantic, whereas factually, the only thing you're talking about to justify it is something incommensurable and only dependant of your own individual perception: "trademark"/"reputation". It is not something you can directly translate into money, and you, unless you're willingful to release them here, don't have the objective informations and numbers if it was indeed more successful in terms of trademark to IM or Quantic.
Now if you want we can discuss about what's mensurable, and it seems to me that IM got a way better deal than Quantic on the matter, as Quantic was supposed to finance IM's trips to MLG providence and Blizzcon for instance, and honored their part of the deal, whereas IM was supposed to grant a sit into their gaming house to Quantic players, but backed out of the deal before they had to (as Naniwa and Destiny spent most of their time in Korea under Quantic's colors in Startale house).
Now if a team signs a partnership with another team, it is obviously because both have acknowledged that they have an advantage by doing so, and I'm not sure why you consider that it was a bad deal for one of them, if themselves, with their own interests, went to the conclusion, before embodying it in a contract, that it was a good thing for both of them.
You're also talking about issues with getting further sponsors in the same category that the one you just signed, for example you can't have a second deal in keyboard/mouse producers if you sign with Razer, but that's the same with every team/business. You can't/there's no point having two concurrent sponsors in a same category. That argument makes no sense.
You're also trying to say that that deal will prevent oGs from getting sponsors, when it is that deal that made them be able to pick up Razer. If they could have picked Razer by themselves, don't you think they would have done it? And why picking Razer alone is better than picking Razer and making a partnership with a foreign team that can contribuate to oGs expenses/provide training partners (I heard Naama is not that terrible, and it's not like korean players are always available to train with every other of their team mates 24/7, they eventually have tournaments to prepare, where they can face each other).
The point that troubles me in your argumentation is that you seem to be worried about eSahara abusing in a way, for a reason that you didn't formulate, oGs, but on the other hand you're praising IM for having such behavior.
About eSahara, they made mistakes like making a typo on a plane ticket, but how is that even comparable to being shady or ill-intentionned, and how is that even a reliable sign of the future turn of events (despite my point of saying that if that deal in a way or another stops at some time, that it would have brought nothing but good things to both teams)?
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<3 spunky great job growing the busines even outside of korea!
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Can we get an SK-prime-Intel partnership next?
I would love it
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W00000000t eSahara and oGs, I hope a lot of good things come from this partnership (:
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Interested in seeing how Naama will be able to develop in oGs..
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OGS-TL-Esahara-Razer-MC
Hmm...
Anyway, nice news :D
Always nice to see that more koreans will be able to come in foreign tournaments!
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On February 04 2012 00:29 NanaCry wrote:
OGS-TL-Esahara-Razer-MC
Hmm...
Anyway, nice news :D
Always nice to see that more koreans will be able to come in foreign tournaments!
MC quit to join Sk
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eSahara Player to korea for guest visits and GSL. oGs Players to events outside of Korea with logistics and contats from eSahara. Razer with marketing oppertunities into Korea.
Win, Win, Win - sounds like a plan.
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Interesting development. I hope this means more Europeans in Korea training.
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Cool. This partnership makes OGS/esahara/razer combination the Voltron of esports
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So is liquid a part of this in some way?
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eSahara? Really?
i mean like...
if it would be like mouz or empire, but eSahara?
anyway congratulations to all !
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As long as TL players still get to live at OGS house I'm fin with whatever.
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RAZER SPONSORS SUPERNOVA TO EMBARK ON HIS FIRST INTERNATIONAL STARCRAFT II TOURNAMENT
Check out the original post to read more about eSahara.oGsSuperNoVa attending the Intel Extreme Masters Global Challenge in Sao Paulo as one of the event's Korean invites! This is the oGs ace's first international event in StarCraft II - pretty insane! SuperNoVa fighting!!!
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Wow super sick!! SuperNova to sao pauloooo!!! Grats to Brazil you get to welcome SuperNova to foreign tournament atmoshpere :O
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So....who's designing the new logo for the GSTL team? :D
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Glad to see this level of co-operation between these organizations
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Why doesn't TL get anything from the partnership? It's also partners with oGs and Razer.
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Woow, sick anouncement!!!!
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Nice to see a comment on SK without making a big deal about it.
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I think it's pretty good & better than SK for oGs first they have same sponsor (razer) that fuck my mind when sk & oGs was in partenariat with Steelseries & Razer.
Btw Ryad Abour it's Ryad from zRc noegip ?
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A Trifecta of eSports power
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cool to see more koreans abroad i guess, otherwise not a huge change
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Naama and Deathangel gonna go to the oGs house or not?
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nice nice good stuff guys.
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I feel like i need to support razer more, after all they do for esports, but all my gear is already razer :S
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Awesome news! I'm excited to see how this partnership works out in 2012! GL to both oGs and eShara
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Looking to be another good year for SCII thanks to everyones efforts. <3 :D
That pic made TL look like some creepy dude in the corner watching a 3some.
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HONGUN HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow.. This looks really neat. Hope that a lot of players can attend tourneys that were out of the question before
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On February 03 2012 23:09 irmelvin wrote:
If eSahara players are gonna stay at the oGs house, I feel sorry for carn.
This is the first thing I thought of when I read this announcement.
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oGs and TL are still staying together though right?
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hmm interesting. soon there are going to be huge alliances with multiple teams.
on a side note, i know this is a casual formal but....The grammatical failure of someone of these posts is sad. I mean, I don't care when its just some individual or the TL writers (yes most of them are terrible grammar) but I would think a large company like Razer would have like a proofreader. Whatever, just a rant. Still very excited to see what exactly this "trifecta" entails.
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nice...1st gen Prime + oGs
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I like that razer is such a part of the community and not just trying to sell us their stuff, you can tell they actually care.
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On February 04 2012 00:39 Stipulation wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jCYsM.png)
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Lol, it's be funny if it turned into a meta war. One huge alliance of teams versus another.
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That was a ton of writing for something pretty simple. Congrats to all parties!
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On February 04 2012 03:17 ticklishmusic wrote:
Lol, it's be funny if it turned into a meta war. One huge alliance of teams versus another.
So many alliances...WWI incoming xD
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I have a feeling that SlayerS are trying to get rid of Razer so that they can form a full alliance with EG and get support from SteelSeries. Therefore, Razar has to find a new team to support. I am oGs fan. So, this is a good news for me.
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wow, I definitely wasn't expecting this!
oGs.eShara.TL lol
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Not too long ago I remember calling out the eSahara manager for making hype posts when nobody cares about his team. Obviously, with this I am not ashamed to admit I have been proved wrong and I wish the team all the best in 2012 
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This is so cool to hear. Naama is such a fantastic player and oGs is my favorite Korean team. While this is a bit unexpected, it's fantastic news.
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On February 04 2012 00:05 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 23:00 Eee wrote:On February 03 2012 22:28 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 03 2012 22:15 Eee wrote:
I don't like this. Wish oGs could build their own strong economical base instead of relying on a shady French team that doesn't have a good reputation and neither do they have any sponsors (from looking at their website), which makes them even more shady. Where comes from the shades you see in them, apart from your own decision? What bad reputation they carry? It is not even like, in the case that partnership comes to an end, like most of them will eventually do, that's going to cost oGs anything, and that it didn't bring them anything good while it was running. For the mere curiosity, since you chose to look only from oGs point of vue, whereas both sign the same sheet of paper, did you feel that empathic towards IM when they backed out of their engagements with Quantic Gaming? I kind of did, IM case is even a better example. They had four of the best players in Korea on their roster (MVP, Nestea, Losira and Happy), they could've easily built a strong trademark on their own without Quantics help and built a strong economic base (which they eventually realised). I'd think anybody would say that the QIM agreement helped Quantics trademark far more than it helped IM's trademark, so besides from the money Nestea and MVP won under that short time it didn't really help IMs trademark that much really. Luckily IM coach was smart and pulled out of that deal and realised that this is not the way to build a strong trademark, and now they've started doing the IM shows with Hwanni and have more coming up! Thing is during a deal like this, it usually make it a lot harder to gain sponsors (due to the fact that new sponsorships might hurt the sponsors that are involved in the deal, i.e. Since razer are sponsoring this deal it is pretty much crossed of the list that oGs will be able to sign deals with mouse/keyboard producers, and since Razer are moving in to producing laptops this year it might even hurt sponsorships from that end). When an agreement like this ends oGs will be back on square one and will be having the same troubles sending their players to events, and due to that we might just see more players leaving the team to have financial stability and being able to travel to events (The MC case for example). eSahara has in the past months showed on several ocassions that their management cannot act professionally, now when oGs are affiliated with them future events will also hurt the oGs trademark/reputation. If IM could have built "their own strong trademark" and "their own economic base" without Quantic Gaming's help, why didn't have they done it in the first place? If they didn't need Quantic to send their players oversea to MLG's and Blizzcon and could have done it by themselves, they had no business giving Quantic advantages back at their own cost. You're telling me that IM didn't receive a better part of the deal than Quantic, whereas factually, the only thing you're talking about to justify it is something incommensurable and only dependant of your own individual perception: "trademark"/"reputation". It is not something you can directly translate into money, and you, unless you're willingful to release them here, don't have the objective informations and numbers if it was indeed more successful in terms of trademark to IM or Quantic. Now if you want we can discuss about what's mensurable, and it seems to me that IM got a way better deal than Quantic on the matter, as Quantic was supposed to finance IM's trips to MLG providence and Blizzcon for instance, and honored their part of the deal, whereas IM was supposed to grant a sit into their gaming house to Quantic players, but backed out of the deal before they had to (as Naniwa and Destiny spent most of their time in Korea under Quantic's colors in Startale house). Now if a team signs a partnership with another team, it is obviously because both have acknowledged that they have an advantage by doing so, and I'm not sure why you consider that it was a bad deal for one of them, if themselves, with their own interests, went to the conclusion, before embodying it in a contract, that it was a good thing for both of them. You're also talking about issues with getting further sponsors in the same category that the one you just signed, for example you can't have a second deal in keyboard/mouse producers if you sign with Razer, but that's the same with every team/business. You can't/there's no point having two concurrent sponsors in a same category. That argument makes no sense. You're also trying to say that that deal will prevent oGs from getting sponsors, when it is that deal that made them be able to pick up Razer. If they could have picked Razer by themselves, don't you think they would have done it? And why picking Razer alone is better than picking Razer and making a partnership with a foreign team that can contribuate to oGs expenses/provide training partners (I heard Naama is not that terrible, and it's not like korean players are always available to train with every other of their team mates 24/7, they eventually have tournaments to prepare, where they can face each other). The point that troubles me in your argumentation is that you seem to be worried about eSahara abusing in a way, for a reason that you didn't formulate, oGs, but on the other hand you're praising IM for having such behavior. About eSahara, they made mistakes like making a typo on a plane ticket, but how is that even comparable to being shady or ill-intentionned, and how is that even a reliable sign of the future turn of events (despite my point of saying that if that deal in a way or another stops at some time, that it would have brought nothing but good things to both teams)?
I never said anything about ill-intentioned, rather did i focus on the lack of professionalism in eSahara. Recruiting a player based on one msn conversation, bashing former managers in a press release etc.
I never said anything about that IM could'nt have gotten a better deal or that the Quantic deal wasnt good for them, but i would rather see them try to actually build up an independent strong economical base.
Razer actually sponsored oGs in early 2011 and decided to not sponsor them for the rest of the year, and also Razer (And other sponsors like Steelseries) are known for being very strict about their competitors (the other sponsors). I.e. The Slayers/EG deal we're Razer have told SlayerS that EG are not allowed to participate in GSTL with them. (Similiar conflicts have happened before in esports, for example once in cs 1.6. event razer sponsored players were'nt allowed to use their gear because it was steelseries sponsored event.
On February 03 2012 23:36 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 23:00 Eee wrote:On February 03 2012 22:28 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 03 2012 22:15 Eee wrote:
I don't like this. Wish oGs could build their own strong economical base instead of relying on a shady French team that doesn't have a good reputation and neither do they have any sponsors (from looking at their website), which makes them even more shady. Where comes from the shades you see in them, apart from your own decision? What bad reputation they carry? It is not even like, in the case that partnership comes to an end, like most of them will eventually do, that's going to cost oGs anything, and that it didn't bring them anything good while it was running. For the mere curiosity, since you chose to look only from oGs point of vue, whereas both sign the same sheet of paper, did you feel that empathic towards IM when they backed out of their engagements with Quantic Gaming? I kind of did, IM case is even a better example. They had four of the best players in Korea on their roster (MVP, Nestea, Losira and Happy), they could've easily built a strong trademark on their own without Quantics help and built a strong economic base (which they eventually realised). I'd think anybody would say that the QIM agreement helped Quantics trademark far more than it helped IM's trademark, so besides from the money Nestea and MVP won under that short time it didn't really help IMs trademark that much really. Luckily IM coach was smart and pulled out of that deal and realised that this is not the way to build a strong trademark, and now they've started doing the IM shows with Hwanni and have more coming up! Thing is during a deal like this, it usually make it a lot harder to gain sponsors (due to the fact that new sponsorships might hurt the sponsors that are involved in the deal, i.e. Since razer are sponsoring this deal it is pretty much crossed of the list that oGs will be able to sign deals with mouse/keyboard producers, and since Razer are moving in to producing laptops this year it might even hurt sponsorships from that end). When an agreement like this ends oGs will be back on square one and will be having the same troubles sending their players to events, and due to that we might just see more players leaving the team to have financial stability and being able to travel to events (The MC case for example). eSahara has in the past months showed on several ocassions that their management cannot act professionally, now when oGs are affiliated with them future events will also hurt the oGs trademark/reputation. You seem very hung up on the word trademark. It's not worth a shit if you can get sponsors and evidently from all the foreign teams partnering with Korean teams, it's not easy pickings to get sponsors in Korea. Saying that they can build an economic base themselves is nothing more than wishful thinking or speculating by your part. And you are seriously exaggurating the issues with having razor as a sponsor. You can't have it both ways.
Well I'd rather say most Korean teams aren't really focusing that much on marketing aspect of esports. Numerous of teams have proven in the past that it IS infact possible to get strong sponsorships in Korea, for example multigaming teams WeMadeFox and eStro, who both had succesful teams who had strong financial backing although the titles they played we're relativly small in Korea (i.e. the Estro cs 1.6 team and FoX warcraft 3 team).
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is it bad that i was looking for MC's name as part of oGs' roster?
anyway, on topic, as long as it doesn't effect TL's relationship with oGs, i'm all for this. For that matter, makes me wonder if some of the members of TL living in europe will train there too?
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On February 04 2012 04:31 hesho89 wrote:
is it bad that i was looking for MC's name as part of oGs' roster?
anyway, on topic, as long as it doesn't effect TL's relationship with oGs, i'm all for this. For that matter, makes me wonder if some of the members of TL living in europe will train there too?
TLO is going back in march it is said. Ret is looking to go back some time in 2012. The rest are already in Korea.
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so can eSahara players participate in the GSTL like liquid? putting Hungun and hero in on the GSTL really solidifies OGS's lineup without MC.
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Esahara has been quite the trainwreck so far. Hopefully this puts them on the map as a decent team.
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I don't really like these partnerships, they feel very gimicky and unsustinable for a long period of time.
I prefer teams having their own players and rosters as Teamliquid is doing.
At the moment we have like what? Quantic.Startale, Col.mvp, EG and Slayers, eshara.ogs etc.
Anyway, GL!
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Looks like it's time for 2012 to be the year of Carn.
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On February 04 2012 05:41 RunningInSquares wrote:
Looks like it's time for 2012 to be the year of Carn.
He got dropped by eSahara last month.
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SKoGsTLRazereSahara?
I know that's not the way it is but I don't really have a clear picture of what's up with oGs and their partnerships these days.
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Damn, how big is oGs's team house anyways? I presume they will shelter Check, HongUn and Maka now plus Naame and Deathangel once they are in Korea, right?
Anyways, I'm looking forward to what will grow out of this in the future. On the first view, eSahara looks to be like a seriously competitive team, unlike tl. However they are too new to the scene to tell for certain though.
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Wow Supernova is coming to Brazil! Thats nice! Maybe I will go to Sao Paulo give him a hug =)
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Awesome, good for oGs and eSahara
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But... but what happened to Team Liquid?
They should have called themselves a Triumvirate instead. oGs can be Octavius, eSahara can be Lepidus, and Razer can be Mark Antony.
That way poor ol' Team Liquid can be Julius Caesar, bless his soul.
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On February 04 2012 06:49 Newbistic wrote:
But... but what happened to Team Liquid?
They should have called themselves a Triumvirate instead. oGs can be Octavius, eSahara can be Lepidus, and Razer can be Mark Antony.
That way poor ol' Team Liquid can be Julius Caesar, bless his soul.
OP said that this doesn't affect the oGs-TL relationship as they are more like family than related organizations now. This new partnership may actually help TL out, or at least their players in Korea.
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SK.oGs.TL.eSahara.Mouz vs. FXO-EG-SlayerS-Quantic-ST.
It just seems pointless to follow a non-G7 team because of how flippant their existence/identity is.
Of course I just threw in 3 in there but that's a silly example.
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poor zenex their post looking for partnerships comes almost same time as this.
Cool news though.
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good news in terms of the growth of esports but wouldnt this cause problems (management, conflict of interest)?
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On February 03 2012 20:35 TeamRazer wrote:
The partnership between all three organisations looks towards developing the ability for European pro-gamers to immerse themselves in a Korean training environment, and for Korean pro-gamers to have more opportunities to participate in international competitions with Razer’s financial support and provision of high-end peripherals to strengthen the project.
Still no answer if this means naama and deathangel will be moving into the oGs house? (or their B team house if they have one?).
+ Show Spoiler + for anyone not up to date or not reading the OP... oGs and SK ended their partnership (around the time mc left). the oGs-TL "marriage" is not affected.
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Looks like a great deal for all parties involved. GL to Supernova in Sao Paulo!
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isnt ogs sponsored by steel series?
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On February 04 2012 08:38 SacredSystem wrote:
isnt ogs sponsored by steel series?
No.
(they did have a partnership with SK though, and SK are sponsored by steelseries)
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On February 04 2012 08:39 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 08:38 SacredSystem wrote:
isnt ogs sponsored by steel series? No. (they did have a partnership with SK though, and SK are sponsored by steelseries)
Well, to be precise, Nada and MC were sponsored by SK. No other partnership with oGs was made.
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Sweet. Can't wait to see more oGs players abroad. Goodluck to SuperNova in Sao Paulo!
Best wishes for oGs and eSahara in the future
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Trifecta -- hm, weird name. Sounds sorta like "defector", haha. Anyways, good stuff for oGs and SuperNova specifically.
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Hahaha, Spunky is such a cool guy! Great news for eSahara and for the oGs players, they just keep getting better and better
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oGs-TL-eSahaRazer-SuperNova-
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Awesome partnership. I hope Hongun can get back into the GSL with some sick ogs training
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Nice! I hope more of this kind of arrangements happen.
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Absolute huge, The best of luck to all three.
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Really happy for oGs. This will give them a financial boost.
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Sounds cool...can't wait to see what results from this.
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eSahara have hongunprime ???
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Pretty nice, I hope this just brings more and more attention to e-sports and SC2 in general
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HOOOOOOLY NEWS!!!!!! That is so awesome. And I assume that there is no problem with the TL-oGs partnership =) Sick news.
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eSahara is really investing in sc2 aggressively. I hope it pays off for them!
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On February 04 2012 22:48 mblaq_si wrote:
are they merging?
its a business agreement, sort of like oGs had with SK last year.
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cool. I like eshahara and ogs.
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How big is it for a Korean to play and win in a foreign tourney, career-wise? Honest question asking for honest views. I think the pros [for Supernova] are really big!
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On February 05 2012 05:44 Chunhyang wrote:
How big is it for a Korean to play and win in a foreign tourney, career-wise? Honest question asking for honest views. I think the pros [for Supernova] are really big!
It's a new source of income that is limited in Korea. So it is great for them. I am excited since the sk deal went ooops
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so much synergies, so awesome :D <3
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This is really cool, and I feel like it'll be the norm for teams in the future.
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correct me if im wrong but doesn't oGs have like 3 partnerships with foreign teams now? Liquid, SK, and how eSahara.
I'd be really interested to know what is involved in these partnerships because right now it appears you can have as many as you want.
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On February 05 2012 05:44 Chunhyang wrote:
How big is it for a Korean to play and win in a foreign tourney, career-wise? Honest question asking for honest views. I think the pros [for Supernova] are really big!
It get them tons of recongnition they would not get otherwise.
Look at ST_Sound for example, from his run at Homestory cup.
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cool. that's so awesome. Trifecta hwaiting!
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On February 05 2012 08:35 JeowJeow wrote:
correct me if im wrong but doesn't oGs have like 3 partnerships with foreign teams now? Liquid, SK, and how eSahara.
I'd be really interested to know what is involved in these partnerships because right now it appears you can have as many as you want.
They no longer have a partnership with SK. It was only for MC and NaDa for 6 months, they decided not to renew a deal with NaDa and signed MC away from oGs.
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Boom. Grats to all involved, good things happening in eSports ftw.
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On February 05 2012 09:24 lolsil wrote:
naama to ogs house? :o
the question remains...
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Naama is already insanely good. If he is gonna live in the oGs-house in the future he's gonna be even better. Cant wait!
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Well this is already outdated.. Nadas out!
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