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Rkynick
85 Posts
I managed to get the map played (non-full) a handful of times over the course of a month. To contrast: a few weeks ago, I made a BW UMS map. No trouble getting it played at all. Why is SC2 still so much worse for map development? We need a custom lobby system. | ||
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tomwizz
524 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:21 zachMEISTER wrote: Is that because the D3 BNet looks horrible as well? yeah, they use same system(2.0) and everything same as sc2 i think. | ||
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
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Art_of_Kill
Zaire1232 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:05 CherubDown wrote: The Diablo 3 community is equally concerned about this. One really great guy on the Diablofans forums did a mockup of Battlenet 2.0 for Diablo 3: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/35494-new-battlenet-mockup/ link to image looks so much better then the original | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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JackDT
724 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:38 Rkynick wrote: A perspective: A while back, I made a custom SC2 map. Trying to get it filled was torture, I had no other option than to try to pick up players out of the custom games chat. I managed to get the map played (non-full) a handful of times over the course of a month. To contrast: a few weeks ago, I made a BW UMS map. No trouble getting it played at all. Why is SC2 still so much worse for map development? We need a custom lobby system. I keep trying to get inside their heads and wonder what they are thinking when they designed it like this. It's no fun from the player side either. There are tons and tons of cool looking maps in the list but you can only find players for the 2% of them that are popular, so those are the only ones you pick. Awesome interface design guys. And Blizzard seems to think the problem is the popularity system, and that adding 'up and comers' or whatever will fix it. That's not the problem! I should be able to pick the least popular map in the system and there should be some screen that someone else can see that I'm waiting to play this. I still might not find any but I'd have a chance. I'm so sick of not being able to try out fun looking maps. The only explanation I can think of is that the developers at Blizzard just don't play many custom games, and any official map is automatically popular so they don't run into issues there. So they just don't understand the problem at all. It's so weird because it's not like their interface decisions are making them more money here -- they are just discouraging map makers and players. | ||
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IronMan3
31 Posts
On March 07 2012 11:14 ilikeredheads wrote: I think the lack of improvements or announcement of any new changes is a clear sign that Bnet2.0 sits pretty damn low on Blizzard's priorities. The fact they've failed to implement simple features like chat channels or the ability to watch replays together is a good sign that they just odn't care. The whole purpose of bnet2.0 is to allow them to control everything. Their main concern is to spam expansions.and milk $$$. Yeah as soon as they were taken over by Bobby Kottick they've slapped their customers and stopped building the best games, they've started building money sucking machines. | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:12 Shockk wrote: Well, maybe by reflecting on the quality of your posts, and reconsidering why you thought it appropriate to call a 70+ page discussion filled with concept art, videos, interviews and ongoing support across servers, leagues and continents a "whine thread". I still think it's appropriate. How is this not a very elaborate whine thread? It's not like anyone of you was discussing anything with people of different opinions, it's just people agreeing with each other on how the don't like something. That's what I call a whine thread. And the reason I posted is when you say "Why don't we care" you don't really mean "we". You obviously do care yourself, so you're saying "why don't you guys care as much as I do" and I tried to give an answer to that. Sorry for interrupting your thread. | ||
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On March 07 2012 20:17 blackone wrote: I still think it's appropriate. How is this not a very elaborate whine thread? It's not like anyone of you was discussing anything with people of different opinions, it's just people agreeing with each other on how the don't like something. That's what I call a whine thread. And the reason I posted is when you say "Why don't we care" you don't really mean "we". You obviously do care yourself, so you're saying "why don't you guys care as much as I do" and I tried to give an answer to that. Sorry for interrupting your thread. Then why did you bother posting here in the first place? Except if you can't help being a jerk, that is. | ||
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Not_That
287 Posts
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
Is like 10 years ahead from bnet "2.0" : ( | ||
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Treehead
999 Posts
On March 07 2012 04:40 Piledriver wrote: Griefing low level players is not "interaction". Its just trolling where the low level players have no control over what happens to them. Imagine a scenario where you're on TL.net, and I could just keep deleting your posts over and over again (every time you post), and you have no control because you joined TL 5 months after me and have half my posts. Thats exactly what griefing was. It just wasted new players time. I levelled my first character the hard way on a PvP server towards the end of Vanilla wow, and I would be literally mortified everytime I went to Stranglethorn Vale. Usually after I got killed the first couple of times, I would just log out and come back the next day, hoping that I wouldn't get griefed another day. While the rest of your post makes sense, your first half is totally counterproductive, and IMO reinforces why controls should exist in the first place. You don't have to tell me that griefing in wow is not the same thing as chat channels in SC2. I know it's a ridiculous stretch of the truth. The reason I write it so sensibly is to illustrate that to someone who doesn't know all that much about video games (insert investors/executives here) it DOES sound sensible. I'm not trying to illustrate why it makes sense, I'm trying to illustrate why it *looks* like it makes sense. On March 07 2012 04:44 Chessz wrote: I understand this logic but it's still completely idiotic. Did people really complain about that stuff in WoW? (I played several years starting with vanilla). I know that world PVP could cause problems in some starting areas, but thats much less common cause of battlegrounds, and I miss it a lot even if sometimes it was borderline griefing, for my faction/guild it was some of the funnest times ever as a social gaming experience. With any kind of online experience (games or otherwise), you risk "anonymous" interactions that could be good or bad. The good ones usually outweigh the bad though, and in 1.0 you could just /squelch trolls or BM and that was the end of it. Funny thing is, I've actually ignored/blocked WAY more people in Sc2 than I ever did in War3 because the current setup actually *encourages* in-game and post-game BM, because everything seems autonomous and disconnected from eachother that theres no reason not to BM someone (In fact, you can still send messages to a person you're ignoring. Everyone has experienced the ignore/unignore trash talk BM and it's retarded). It's not like the two players exit their game to a chatroom, where one could brag or talk about their results to an audience, etc. (And, with hundreds of meaningless divisions, there's no way you were better than another person, and with no bo3 option there's no way to control or encourage any kind of manner through all these one-time interactions.) I'm trying to come up with a good analogy but it's difficult because the premise is so stupid.. Yes, it is idiotic. And yes, people did complain - lots of people, and about everything. The phrase "let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll" comes to mind.  | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On March 07 2012 20:39 Shockk wrote: Then why did you bother posting here in the first place? Except if you can't help being a jerk, that is. Because there is a question in the title that I could answer. I thought that there was maybe an off chance that somebody was in fact interested and wanted to know why people don't care, so I posted why I don't. I didn't mean to insult anyone with that. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On March 08 2012 19:36 blackone wrote: Because there is a question in the title that I could answer. I thought that there was maybe an off chance that somebody was in fact interested and wanted to know why people don't care, so I posted why I don't. I didn't mean to insult anyone with that. Reread my posts. It's not your opinion I'm having an issue with, but your language. It boggles my mind that you still haven't realized this. Your input is a welcome contribution regardless of whether or not you accept my / our stance or not. Your condescending remarks are not. | ||
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dragonsuper
Liechtenstein222 Posts
The obviously don't care , so i don't care to play their games anymore too Blizzard isn't Blizzard Anymore, after WOW success and Activision merger, their vision was destroyed. Now they only want customers to squeeze not to entertain. | ||
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trips
United Kingdom107 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:55 EienShinwa wrote: I don't understand why there is no Custom Game Lobby. For what stupid reason would Blizzard believe a Popularity ranking system would work, and to add onto that, make us unable to see which games are made and which aren't. And WHY won't Blizzard respond to all these forums. All I can come up with is that Blizzard doesn't give two damns anymore. This | ||
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Khad
Venezuela27 Posts
Want to make buddies Where to find me Khad 772 | ||
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Bodzilla
Australia472 Posts
i'm just sick of being completely and utterly fucking alone | ||
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Matkap
Spain627 Posts
On March 09 2012 00:12 Bodzilla wrote: I'm honestly considering dropping this game and going for LoL at the moment, and i dont even like MOBA games. i'm just sick of being completely and utterly fucking alone you do know that lol doesnt even have chat channels right? group replays? hey, LoL doesnt even have replays at all!! you DO get 4 retards calling you retard all game though, really social game | ||
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