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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
On February 02 2012 20:23 yNx wrote: 3 immortals vs 5-4 bunkers = immortal victory. Someone has to call down the nerfstick on that unit. Reduce building damage or reduce its range. Immortals are horrible at almost everything else to be honest, so buff them in some other way if you nerf their damage to armored units or buildings. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
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00Visor
4337 Posts
I hope more people stop listening to Idra now. | ||
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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
I think I only met one or two who went with the roach/hydra or roach/infestor style that was sooo common for a long time. Personally my win/loss in PvZ isn't that bad - but that's because I all in alot and alot of zerg players will try to cut some corners. I honestly don't think I could play straight up with a zerg on 3+ bases once he's got mutas. Especially if I open with a robo. Having maybe 5gates+robo when mutas fly in - chances are he will actually be able to overtake my army with mutaling since sentry/stalker isn't really that good against air units. | ||
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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
On February 02 2012 20:23 yNx wrote: 3 immortals vs 5-4 bunkers = immortal victory. Someone has to call down the nerfstick on that unit. Reduce building damage or reduce its range. How did you out of those charts conclude that immortals is a problem? | ||
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Goldmattress
Iceland23 Posts
On February 02 2012 17:56 TrickyGilligan wrote: Lol not sure what happened to the international Protoss. Considering Korea isn't even close to similar though, going to have to assume it's a fluke. maybe IEM affected it? Or maybe it's that there are way fewer Protosses in Pro playing KR and only the very top is represented there while internationally there may still be a lot of lower tier Protosses figuring out PvZ still? | ||
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secretary bird
447 Posts
On February 02 2012 19:10 xrapture wrote: Hrm, interesting. I haven't played in a couple months because watching Terran get nerfed every patch because of Koreans was starting to get disheartening, but maybe now there will be less whining and I can actually play the game without being told how op my race is every 5 minutes. lol no, people whine no matter what but you should either block communication or stop caring about these idiots. Just look at this thread: See Zerg is strongest -> whine about ZvT. Just hopeless. | ||
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Mirosuu
England283 Posts
Mutas aren't that bad to deal with in PvZ, and Protoss needs to figure out how to not just 2-base all-in every PvZ. Zergs just wised up to all the all-ins and people claim imbalance? Until Protoss players can figure this out, PvZ win-rates won't really start to improve or change very much. | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On February 02 2012 20:58 secretary bird wrote: lol no, people whine no matter what but you should either block communication or stop caring about these idiots. Just look at this thread: See Zerg is strongest -> whine about ZvT. Just hopeless. 2 zergs left in gsl, obviously strongest, nestea picking drg for zvz and stating that other match ups are hard, zerg strongest for sure. You are mentally handicapped, aren't you? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Lixo
202 Posts
On February 02 2012 19:31 wBsKillian wrote: Lol and my ZvP is my worst while ZvT seems sooo easy to me oO Same here, but once again those are not low level (hear : Master and below) stats and do not reflect what the winrate on ladder looks like. I think. Or I just am too scared of protosses to actually apply what I learned from pros. | ||
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secretary bird
447 Posts
On February 02 2012 21:03 Artok wrote: 2 zergs left in gsl, obviously strongest, nestea picking drg for zvz and stating that other match ups are hard, zerg strongest for sure. You are mentally handicapped, aren't you? According to these winrates they are and thats what they were complaining about the ZvT winrate. | ||
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silverstyle
Singapore1108 Posts
I found it so strange that I read about how PvZ is so ezpz but I lost like every PvZ i play. | ||
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MWY
Germany284 Posts
On February 02 2012 21:03 Artok wrote: 2 zergs left in gsl, obviously strongest, nestea picking drg for zvz and stating that other match ups are hard, zerg strongest for sure. You are mentally handicapped, aren't you? Even in korea zerg is favored statistically, whats your point? Am I the only one who was expecting those PvZ winrates? seems so ^_^ | ||
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Qntc.YuMe
United States792 Posts
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Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
However, now it seems that the balance has really hit a good spot thus far, with maybe foreign Protoss under-performing slightly. | ||
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yNx
Israel34 Posts
And players some players in the s-class realm have spoken up about protoss being a problem. I just feel like after watching the code s today it does seem a bit overpowered. At least the immortal push that puzzle did. Maybe its just me but the lack of it showing up in the graphs does not mean that it is not a problem that should be looked at? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Paladia
802 Posts
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Ozira
Sweden150 Posts
On February 02 2012 18:06 jliu wrote: Oh my gosh. Why the ZvP disparity? edit: Nevermind see above post - probably mutas & getting better at holding 2-base all-ins. I don't think it's that lol  | ||
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