TLPD Winrate Charts: January - Page 3

On February 02 2012 18:44 Pinna wrote:
Protoss's just need to get it that foreign protoss's are horrible. The best foreign protoss I can come up with is Huk/SaSe, and Huk has terrible PvZ, about SaSes I don't know. But the others like Grubby who only all-ins and HasuObs who is just bad overall, I don't see the foreign Protoss's getting anywhere. The only reason that the likes of Grubby win even on ladder is the fact that on ladder, 2base all-ins are good.

Also, because the Protoss race is so easy overall, you can hit the skillceiling really fast with it, which I think happened to both Grubby and Hasuobs. 2base all-ins just cant get you so far.

On February 02 2012 18:46 Mirosuu wrote:
Korea Protoss looks so different to International Protoss because they actually have learned how to defend against Mutas now. They've been a part of the metagame for so long in Korea so they've adapted, but in the International scene, it's only just started to become popular. Nothing else to it really.

On February 02 2012 18:48 vizir wrote:
Nothing wrong with ZvP. Mutalisk play is just too easy to execute compared to how hard it is to counter as P. Korean Ps are just so sickly good that muta isn't problem for them hence the balance.

You do realize the pvz winrates between KR and international are 3% apart right? Yeah, there's a big tvp gap, but those gosu korean protosses are still getting pretty overwhelmed in pvz.

On February 02 2012 18:47 KAmaKAsa wrote:
hey protosses, i think zergs know how to hold your 7 gate +2 blink stalker all ins... not saying idra knows it... but most people do

On February 02 2012 18:34 bartus88 wrote:
Zerg has a winrate of 55%+ in ZvP in both regions, and IdrA still claims Protoss is overpowered.

I wonder if he will ever realise it's his personal mindset that makes him lose, not imbalance. My guess is no.

On February 02 2012 18:48 vizir wrote:
Nothing wrong with ZvP. Mutalisk play is just too easy to execute compared to how hard it is to counter as P. Korean Ps are just so sickly good that muta isn't problem for them hence the balance.

On February 02 2012 18:51 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Protoss. We are oppressed (.

It's okay. We'll show them what's up!

Still, I need to learn how to better deal with muta play and Roach spam. Such a pain in the ass .


Z nerf inc? :S

Fuck yeah this fucking proves two things zerg is the easiest race to play and the game is pretty balance.

On February 02 2012 18:44 Pinna wrote:
Protoss's just need to get it that foreign protoss's are horrible. The best foreign protoss I can come up with is Huk/SaSe, and Huk has terrible PvZ, about SaSes I don't know. But the others like Grubby who only all-ins and HasuObs who is just bad overall, I don't see the foreign Protoss's getting anywhere. The only reason that the likes of Grubby win even on ladder is the fact that on ladder, 2base all-ins are good.

Also, because the Protoss race is so easy overall, you can hit the skillceiling really fast with it, which I think happened to both Grubby and Hasuobs. 2base all-ins just cant get you so far.

On February 02 2012 18:55 Dbla08 wrote:


lol didn't take long for the first idiot to chime in.


good to see everything becoming very very close in korea, foreign protoss need to learn how to go beyond 2 base and they'll see the winrates go up

On February 02 2012 18:56 nam nam wrote:

Many successful protosses 2 base against zergs. Also did you just say Grubby have reached his skill ceiling?

On February 02 2012 18:55 SafeAsCheese wrote:



When will forumfools realize that these stats have nothing to do with the highest level of competition?