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Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
February 02 2012 08:45 GMT
#161
Well, NA does have MLG, but then again, MLG is incredibly cheap with their prizepools. Probably due to the fact that Blizz takes 50% ad revenue if the cash prize is more than 5k, so in EU you got all of these small tours hovering around that figure, it really does add up.
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
February 02 2012 08:53 GMT
#162
not surprising, more tournies in eu
nastyyy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States262 Posts
February 02 2012 08:57 GMT
#163
Didn't realize there has been over $2 million in prize money in SC2. Kinda awesome.

Wonder if those stats are influenced more by EU players being better or by EU having more tournaments?
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 02 2012 09:26 GMT
#164
On February 02 2012 17:45 Nihilnovi wrote:
Well, NA does have MLG, but then again, MLG is incredibly cheap with their prizepools. Probably due to the fact that Blizz takes 50% ad revenue if the cash prize is more than 5k, so in EU you got all of these small tours hovering around that figure, it really does add up.


Well MLG's cheap prize pool went over 5k in total. First place was 5k but you have to remember 1-8 were getting paid so it was like 11k a tournament or something.
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Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
February 02 2012 09:34 GMT
#165
On February 02 2012 17:57 nastyyy wrote:
Didn't realize there has been over $2 million in prize money in SC2. Kinda awesome.

Wonder if those stats are influenced more by EU players being better or by EU having more tournaments?


Both i guess.

In addition, the fact there are more tournaments with cash prize helps that players train more to win and give the opportunites to some hidden gems (Like it was the case with Nerchio, Stephano or Beastyqt for instence) to coming out of shadow.

I'm sure there are players in NA who are very good, but maybe don't have enough opportunities to show what they can do.
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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 13 2012 05:37 GMT
#166
Both of them are overpaid but that will change as Koreans meet up with them more. Those SK MC deals will bring the pain to their bottom lines.
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fox77
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
February 13 2012 05:40 GMT
#167
I'd like to she what the numbers would be like with salary. Both Huk, Idra make 100k salary each.
Brosy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States254 Posts
February 13 2012 05:49 GMT
#168
On February 13 2012 14:40 fox77 wrote:
I'd like to she what the numbers would be like with salary. Both Huk, Idra make 100k salary each.


No. They. Don't.
This has been discussed numerous times on TL, these players do not have contracts with EG for that much. Both players have said that they don't as well.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 13 2012 06:19 GMT
#169
Well, taking a look at TLPD SC2 International (and the first NA player on the Elo rankings is Sheth at 29t, then Huk on top of Idra on page 2 and Namchir lower down.

Whereas EU has Stephano at 5, Happy at 7, Thorzain, Mana, Bly, Nani, Kas and Ret all above Sheth.

Oh, and like half of the list (at least at the top) are Koreans, whether on Korean or Foreign teams.
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
February 13 2012 06:22 GMT
#170
Europe is better then NA this was alrdy known
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RuMCaKe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States559 Posts
February 13 2012 06:26 GMT
#171
This clearly shows its totally obvious that everyone on NA sucks and all of EU is better.

Both servers have great players, as a matter of fact, there is quite a few NA players that practice with EU players etc. NA teams compete with EU teams and vice versa. The only non NA server I have laddered on personally is Korea, which most players play on if they can anyways.

To say EU IS BETTER THEN NA or vice versa is just silly imo. Both regions will have a foreigner on top at different given points in time. The players would rather be competing at the top level of Koreans, and compared to them rather then then another foreign region.

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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
February 13 2012 06:26 GMT
#172
Wow, that's a pretty gross disparity. Doesn't EU have a lot of weekly tournament style things though?
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 06:28:27
February 13 2012 06:28 GMT
#173
The difference at the top is just because EU is better. The crazy disparity below the top is pretty pointless due to the difference in tournament activity.
PrimeTimey
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada369 Posts
February 13 2012 13:35 GMT
#174
Not really surprising, EU has always been on top of NA in many games.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
February 13 2012 13:44 GMT
#175
I don't care how much money they NA/EU have taken off each other... they need to win some money vs Koreans to prove they are getting better
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raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
February 13 2012 13:51 GMT
#176
would be fun with another EU vs NA showmatch like we had a year ago or something
OrangeApples
Profile Joined January 2011
137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 13:58:54
February 13 2012 13:58 GMT
#177
On February 13 2012 15:26 RuMCaKe wrote:

To say EU IS BETTER THEN NA or vice versa is just silly imo. Both regions will have a foreigner on top at different given points in time. The players would rather be competing at the top level of Koreans, and compared to them rather then then another foreign region.



I agree with this.


Also, its better to factor in the fact that there are many more EU professional players compared to NA.
Kyles92
Profile Joined October 2010
England183 Posts
February 13 2012 13:59 GMT
#178
We have a lot more better players then NA. Not their fault, just the way it is at the moment. That's why we earn more.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
February 13 2012 14:08 GMT
#179
I don't think it's unfair to say EU > NA though I wouldn't be basing this on the 'winnings' argument.

Sure, NA has some huge events. But the fact that they are so big attracts a fair number of non-NA players. EU on the other hand also has some big events but they have loads of smaller events that are wicked for anyone living in the EU since they aren't so large that NA/KR will participate.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 16:14:45
February 13 2012 16:11 GMT
#180
Another big factor I haven't seen mentioned is that Koreans can't play on EU and in EU server based tournaments because of the latency. Where as Koreans can play on NA and regularly do and win their daily/weekly cups.

If Koreans could play on the EU server without latency (or with NA latency) then the EU scene would have won a lot less money.

I'm not saying EU isn't overall better than NA it clearly is but the lack of Korean players is just another important factor to consider.

The major EU Lan's like Assembly and Dreamhack also tend to invite less Koreans (and generally worse Koreans) than MLG and IPL so while EU players don't actually generally win Dreamhack (although they do win Assembly at it has no/almost no Koreans) they do take up a lot more of the top spots. Where as MLG and IPL invite many more Koreans who then take up a massive chunk of the overall prize pool.
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