EPTEU: Plenty of online, daily and weekly cups where everyone has a fair chance to win, qualifiers for big events where the famous players usually lose, and the GUNNAR GESTAPO don't appear to decide which players should be famous; their skill does (at least from what I've seen as someone in the US).
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United States7081 Posts
EU: Plenty of online, daily and weekly cups where everyone has a fair chance to win, qualifiers for big events where the famous players usually lose, and the GUNNAR GESTAPO don't appear to decide which players should be famous; their skill does (at least from what I've seen as someone in the US). | ||
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Neelia
Germany599 Posts
On February 01 2012 21:40 Mentalizor wrote: That's interesting. More tournaments. ESL, Playhem and all those german/russian and small-language-tournaments (like danish) will generate alot of this. Just small cups with like 150€ prize/day will quickly add up, when all the pros can basicly make it every day just as a part of their online practice. I think it's more a question of tournaments than anything else. sc2earnings doesn't include most small tournaments I think. Compare http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1777#tblt-9612-1-1-DESC to http://sc2earnings.com/player/88/jeffrey-brusi or http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1693_Kas#tblt-9957-3-1-DESC to http://sc2earnings.com/player/93/mihaylo-hayda Even if some second places didn't result in money, the number of entries differs by quite a huge margin for both of them. | ||
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CheesusCrust
Germany58 Posts
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
On February 02 2012 01:46 Neelia wrote: sc2earnings doesn't include most small tournaments I think. Compare http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1777#tblt-9612-1-1-DESC to http://sc2earnings.com/player/88/jeffrey-brusi or http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1693_Kas#tblt-9957-3-1-DESC to http://sc2earnings.com/player/93/mihaylo-hayda Even if some second places didn't result in money, the number of entries differs by quite a huge margin for both of them. I agree, sc2earnings.com doesn't count many small tournaments. An example: http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/prizes Here Goody has 16649€ (~22k$) winnings, but in sc2earnings.com he only has $11990. | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
On February 02 2012 02:02 vdale wrote: I agree, sc2earnings.com doesn't count many small tournaments. An example: http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/prizes Here Goody has 16649€ (~22k$) winnings, but in sc2earnings.com he only has $11990. yea and they only count individual leagues aswell, no team leagues and such | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On February 02 2012 01:46 Neelia wrote: sc2earnings doesn't include most small tournaments I think. Compare http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1777#tblt-9612-1-1-DESC to http://sc2earnings.com/player/88/jeffrey-brusi or http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1693_Kas#tblt-9957-3-1-DESC to http://sc2earnings.com/player/93/mihaylo-hayda Even if some second places didn't result in money, the number of entries differs by quite a huge margin for both of them. I dont think SC2 earnings count any wins below 50$. Then again I cant imagine that the wins below 50$ constitute more then a fraction of the total prize earnings. The fact that TT1 pointed out, that they dont count team wins, could probably make a bigger differences. Not sure if it would benefit EU or NA though. | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
Stephano is crazy though, that $80,000 was made in such a short time. Imagine what it will be like for him and all the other top players within the next 5 years. | ||
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
On February 01 2012 21:40 Cirqueenflex wrote: i honestly think if you add in the salary of each player the numbers will be fairly even. At least i imagine top NA teams to pay their players way more than european teams nope  | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
this is like one of those research projects where people state what everyone already knows.. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 01 2012 21:39 Boonbag wrote: We're just so rich we throw money at them like nothing edit : its funny the EU total figures is like a little more than what Flash makes in a year Seriously?! Wow. That's hilarious! Are we even counting his tournament wins? | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On February 01 2012 21:48 NrGmonk wrote: Earnings imbalance? Occupy Starcraft imo. Lol, we are the 99% | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On February 02 2012 01:51 CheesusCrust wrote: Fenix isn't from NA. . . ... Fenix is Peruvian, and on ladder he is NA | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 02 2012 02:56 aTnClouD wrote: NA was never as competitive in SCBW and WC3 aswell. I think it's mostly a bad mindset of the community in general that makes people too easily famous and kinda arrogant and less humble, and the direct consequence of that is the lack of improvement and less will to practice. I might be totally wrong though, just my impression on the matter. Alas, most gamers in the US prefer FPS over RTS, and even then most gamers are casuals. And unless you have been blessed by the Gods themselves with divine talent, being a casual will get you nowhere. | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
On February 02 2012 02:59 GreEny K wrote: ... Fenix is Peruvian, and on ladder he is NA peru ladder = LA, if i ladder on eu does that make me european? na = canada mexico usa | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On February 02 2012 03:00 mTwTT1 wrote: peru ladder = LA, if i ladder on eu does that make me european? na = canada mexico usa I know where Peru is, thanks. But I don't think he made a category for LA players... There would be like 3 well known players... | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On February 02 2012 03:00 Bagration wrote: Alas, most gamers in the US prefer FPS over RTS, and even then most gamers are casuals. And unless you have been blessed by the Gods themselves with divine talent, being a casual will get you nowhere. To give you an example compare for example Ukraine to USA, less players but way higher quality. The problem is the mindset of the players and what's around them. | ||
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
If you exclude HuK and Idra and maybe sheth (if he shows his AAA-Game) then NA is far inferior to europe in terms of the amount of good players. But on the other hand with the MLG north america has one of the best organized tourneys. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On February 02 2012 03:06 aTnClouD wrote: To give you an example compare for example Ukraine to USA, less players but way higher quality. The problem is the mindset of the players and what's around them. Wich is kinda sad because of the incredible sponsership potential NA has. Yes way more then currently is going on. But i agree, seems to be a mindset problem. | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On February 02 2012 02:52 sc14s wrote: is it really that suprising? NA really isn't that competitive.. this is like one of those research projects where people state what everyone already knows.. Heh. He just backed something that everyone already "thinks they know" with some empirical figures. You really think that's the same as what you said? You are very negative... why did you post in this thread? | ||
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