On June 26 2012 08:31 smwatkin wrote:
Hey guys, complexity academy is recruiting for all you Masters guys out there. David and I are the casters for the Academy, so just an FYI that you need to get your video applications in for a great opportunity!

Sweet gratz!

Belial88

United States5217 Posts

June 26 2012 08:22 GMT

#683

Hi.

I really don't think your way to hold a 10 pool works. The 10 pooler made a ton of mistakes.

- He could have made spines when he was in your base and your drones were running away.
- He chased your drones, which was stupid. You only need to deny mining, not chase the drones or even kill them. Slowlings and drones obviously aren't going to catch 15 drones...
- He tried to sneak a spine, which is a gamble, but stupid, and causes him to fall far behind. You are supposed to make the spine when the army arrives, not like that, otherwise it puts you behind...
- for some reason he never makes additional lings. Just bad macro. the only reason the build wins is because of reinforcing lings, with equal production as you.

I've seen 1 way to possibly hold a 10 pool - a queen and morph 2 defensive spines. But I dont think it'll beat 10 pool baneling, another autowin 10 pool vs hatch first, which your defense definitely wouldn't hold either.

We can test it out if you like. I've practiced hours and hours against both 6/7/8 pools and 9/10/11 pools. I have yet to see a way to truly hold 10 pool 8 of 12 drones pulled, single spine, with rallying lings or 10 pool baneling. But I can execute a decent 10 pool and see if your build actually works or not...

Belial.869@NA

SweKenZo

Sweden82 Posts

June 26 2012 12:13 GMT

#684

First of all.. Thx for all the Great vids!! The explaining of your thought process is invaluable!

As a Plat level Zerg im having trouble with properly engaging other armies.
Is this something youl would like to touch on? i.e. how to set up a proper BL/infestor attack, micro during battles (roach, ling vs immortal sentry), ling bling vs MMM and so on...

I havent been able to found any good ones on TL and it would be awesome if you were up to the task!

Cheers!

smwatkin

Canada399 Posts

June 26 2012 14:45 GMT

#685

On June 26 2012 17:22 Belial88 wrote:
Hi.

I really don't think your way to hold a 10 pool works. The 10 pooler made a ton of mistakes.

- He could have made spines when he was in your base and your drones were running away.
- He chased your drones, which was stupid. You only need to deny mining, not chase the drones or even kill them. Slowlings and drones obviously aren't going to catch 15 drones...
- He tried to sneak a spine, which is a gamble, but stupid, and causes him to fall far behind. You are supposed to make the spine when the army arrives, not like that, otherwise it puts you behind...
- for some reason he never makes additional lings. Just bad macro. the only reason the build wins is because of reinforcing lings, with equal production as you.

I've seen 1 way to possibly hold a 10 pool - a queen and morph 2 defensive spines. But I dont think it'll beat 10 pool baneling, another autowin 10 pool vs hatch first, which your defense definitely wouldn't hold either.

We can test it out if you like. I've practiced hours and hours against both 6/7/8 pools and 9/10/11 pools. I have yet to see a way to truly hold 10 pool 8 of 12 drones pulled, single spine, with rallying lings or 10 pool baneling. But I can execute a decent 10 pool and see if your build actually works or not...

Belial.869@NA

EDIT: Another VOD with more examples has been posted in the OP. Watch that...

Beorning

United States243 Posts

June 27 2012 05:18 GMT

#686

Great video on the 10 pool hold! Maybe TL could feature the thread a second time, so you'd get more viewers...

stoicRegret

Canada206 Posts

June 27 2012 20:26 GMT

#687

On June 27 2012 14:18 Beorning wrote:
Great video on the 10 pool hold! Maybe TL could feature the thread a second time, so you'd get more viewers...

Never

Last Raven

Belgium14 Posts

June 28 2012 18:38 GMT

#688

Love watching stuff like this, keep the info coming!

QQKachoo

United States192 Posts

June 28 2012 20:09 GMT

#689

I love watching this show. This step by step analysis really helps me with my gameplay. It really helps me with decision making in certain matchups.

smwatkin

Canada399 Posts

June 28 2012 20:46 GMT

#690

We're going to branch out soon and do some pro replays in addition to David's own games.

Sadform

United Kingdom79 Posts

June 28 2012 20:51 GMT

#691

These vods are great, only just seen them in the last few days. The banter is pretty good too, keep it up! When you planning on uploading the next set?

stoicRegret

Canada206 Posts

June 28 2012 21:23 GMT

#692

On June 29 2012 05:51 Sadform wrote:
These vods are great, only just seen them in the last few days. The banter is pretty good too, keep it up! When you planning on uploading the next set?

Normally weekly. There are over 20 episodes posted in the previous episdoes tab, enjoy.

romelako

United States373 Posts

June 29 2012 00:43 GMT

#693

so, word on the street is...it's david's birthday today (6/28)

Shilliwippen

Sweden57 Posts

June 29 2012 00:53 GMT

#694

Im sooo sad for you guys, just want you to get more viewers, been telling all my friends about you!
Tho as a geek, I dont have that many!

The most educational videos out there today in my opinion, for all races, even tho David only talks about Zerg, he explains the mistakes of his opponents aswell.

stoicRegret

Canada206 Posts

July 02 2012 03:21 GMT

#695

Me thinks Shawn is back from his batman duties tomorrow. Me thinks we are doing something with the qxc vs col academy casting-wise. Me thinks me talks like this because me is bored of thinks-ing and talks-ing.

Holcan

Canada2593 Posts

July 02 2012 15:59 GMT

#696

also dont forget about NASL finals in two weeks, regret and nuvo will definitrly be there, although chances are ill be the only one in a stoic shirt