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Bishop1415
Profile Joined April 2012
3 Posts
May 02 2012 05:40 GMT
#441
thanks for finding that! I think its a great service you guys are doing here.

I was also wondering if you guys would post some VOD's of losses, and break those down, so people can look out for similar circumstances/mistakes in their own play. (if not of your own games, then of fan submissions, Lord knows I could give you some losses :p)

smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
May 02 2012 13:28 GMT
#442
DAVID NEVER LOSES


(just kidding). We can cover a few and show how the game spirals out of control when you make large mistakes.
romelako
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States373 Posts
May 02 2012 17:29 GMT
#443
i didn't know that david has lost before
Catatafish
Profile Joined April 2012
75 Posts
May 02 2012 19:06 GMT
#444
What do you do against 2base colossus? I usually go max roaches, but then they can just take a later third and my army isn't very good. Should I just try and trade and go mutas in that case, or?
stoicRegret
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada206 Posts
May 02 2012 19:11 GMT
#445
On May 03 2012 04:06 Catatafish wrote:
What do you do against 2base colossus? I usually go max roaches, but then they can just take a later third and my army isn't very good. Should I just try and trade and go mutas in that case, or?


You are going to have to be a little more detailed as to what the situation is. 2 base collosus all in's can be held off from just mass roach. 2 base collosus as a defensive posture does not make sense, since the addings of his gates is right after the collosus pop, which is an all in transition. So, you should rewatch the games, and know whether he is getting collosus because his first attempt to do something else failed, and I would need to know how you opened, what your max time is, and the drone and probe counts.

As a rule of thumb, vs all styles of turtle 2 base protoss play, you want to get a 4th base up asap and have 8 gasses taken and mining. This will allow you to sit on a max shitty army for a long time, banking enough resources to mass spines and mutas for a big base trade. You can also infest heavily into banelings. If you can afford 50 banelings in overlords, there is almost no way he is going to beat your second wave, even if he has 4 collosus (on 2 base of course).
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
May 03 2012 00:53 GMT
#446
we are doing some grand master coaching.. check out the stream:

http://www.justin.tv/smwatkin
stoicRegret
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada206 Posts
May 03 2012 01:13 GMT
#447
WE'RE LIVE! Randomness incoming.

http://www.twitch.tv/smwatkin
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
May 03 2012 10:31 GMT
#448
I missed the live Probably would be the middle of the night for me in the UK, right?
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
May 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#449
LOL: http://www.twitch.tv/smwatkin/b/316945863
Skeletor ftw! I'm vaguely tempted to listen to that at work (I am a programmer).... though not sure I could stomach 10 hours of it? Maybe I should experiment.

BRB :D
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
May 03 2012 16:45 GMT
#450
Rumor has it you have a zergy overlay that would have worked well in that live stream! :p

This stuff is so good to watch/listen to. so much fun. Hell I'm running it in the background now just listening to the banter. Very well done.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
May 04 2012 05:27 GMT
#451
yup. You'll see the new overlay next ep
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
May 04 2012 05:27 GMT
#452
On May 03 2012 22:01 Hairy wrote:
LOL: http://www.twitch.tv/smwatkin/b/316945863
Skeletor ftw! I'm vaguely tempted to listen to that at work (I am a programmer).... though not sure I could stomach 10 hours of it? Maybe I should experiment.

BRB :D


At MLG we listend to it on repeat for over an hour.... it was magical. And magikl was there too..
stoicRegret
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada206 Posts
May 05 2012 17:25 GMT
#453
Doing VODs tonight
SupeR z
Profile Joined February 2012
United States73 Posts
May 05 2012 17:31 GMT
#454
you guys are very helpful every zerg should watch

thanks for these VoDs
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
May 06 2012 00:23 GMT
#455
Absolutely love the content. Thanks for your hard work fellas, its much appreciated.
Frunkis
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
May 06 2012 00:41 GMT
#456
What's with the grey stuff at the beginning of every video?
DoctorHot
Profile Joined September 2011
United States42 Posts
May 06 2012 04:37 GMT
#457
Alright, time to do some homework! ...and then I see you guys updated. Guess homework will have to wait... How dare you do this to me right before finals!

You said you guys went to MLG, which one was that? Do you guys go to a lot of events?
ErrorNA
Profile Joined November 2010
United States86 Posts
May 06 2012 11:08 GMT
#458
You guys are the best. I have watched since the beginning! idk why you guys dont have more veiws
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
May 06 2012 13:21 GMT
#459
On May 06 2012 09:41 Frunkis wrote:
What's with the grey stuff at the beginning of every video?


Not sure. I read about it on the XSplit forum. It seems to be a problem with YouTube that hasn't been solved yet. Not much we can do.
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
May 06 2012 16:27 GMT
#460
Episode 18 is up!

Enjoy.

Follow us on twitter as well to find out about our VOD timings. Also to get at me with things you wanna see.
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