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Discussing the controversy and stating your opinions in a constructive way is fine, but there will be bans for any player/organization bashing without anything to substantiate it.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45861 Posts
January 18 2012 06:54 GMT
#261
I hope aLive's ordeal is just a miscommunication. Either that, or something even more crazy than a Stephano + SunCow + Puma + Princess/ Kitty/ Terran scandal.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
January 18 2012 06:54 GMT
#262
WTF is going on?!?!?!?! -_-

Man, think if the whole TSL situation had just been sane...

Hell, you could form a team based off all the players that have "left" or been "poached" from TSL: Rain, Killer, JYP, Clide, Puma, ALive, Trickster, Fruitdealer...and it would be a pretty solid lineup, lol.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
January 18 2012 06:54 GMT
#263
I sort of suspected this type of thread might pop up after hearing Alive left TSL in the Moon hype thread... but Heart too? I can't even imagine how sad/angry Coach Lee is right now... I just hope TSL weathers the storm... I hope more sources are released over the coming days so people can see all perspectives of the situation... I'm just sad...
"This is not the beginning of an end. Instead, it is the end of a beginning." // Little Sprite Fan :D // Never go full China. // At least NA won at Dota 2.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
January 18 2012 06:54 GMT
#264
So sad TT idk what TSL is gonna do, but its kinda fishy that this only happens to them.
User was warned for too many mimes.
frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
January 18 2012 06:54 GMT
#265
On January 18 2012 15:45 ToD wrote:
aLive hasn't joined us actually....


Are you kidding me? How does this stuff always happen with starcraft drama?
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 07:13:35
January 18 2012 06:54 GMT
#266
On January 18 2012 14:52 oddsprout wrote:
oh TSL poor coach man must feel helpless

also waxangel post 9000...


Interestingly enough, I think a major community member reaching another post count milestone is actually a more significant occurance than all the drama we are getting about every week. I mean, you can only have so many "underhanded signings" and such before you get bored of it all.

EDIT: Actually, after reading through the thread, this is indeed an exceptionally clusterfucked situation. Still, eSPORTS does seem to have a knack for drama. I wonder if this fiasco will break TSL, considering how they lost and are losing their talent, their players' faith and the respect of the community.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
January 18 2012 06:55 GMT
#267
This along with that suncow thing. LOL.... what the hell.
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Shuffleus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia764 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:57:07
January 18 2012 06:55 GMT
#268
On January 18 2012 15:53 Goibon wrote:
Remember when the top story on TL front page was Flo joins Quantic and didn't change for like a week? Simpler times....


Obviously we over here at Quantic need to get a scandal in the works to steal back the limelight. TSL really upping the publicity game.

Edit: I'm thinking a split with ST and merge with TSL, mutually beneficial publicity ^^
| QuanticGaming.com | There is no greater feeling then to find order in the chaos, as you slip the puzzle pieces in place.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
January 18 2012 06:56 GMT
#269
TSL coach Lee seems so clingy over his players...I don't see the team morale being any better after this fiasco.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
January 18 2012 06:56 GMT
#270
TSL why? Too bad we have to undergo this drama over again.
But if Alive succeeds, fnatic is damn scary!
BSOD
ThaSlayer
Profile Joined March 2011
707 Posts
January 18 2012 06:56 GMT
#271
Coach Lee: Hey come and train in my team house!
Fnatic takes one of his best players.
Poor Lee.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 18 2012 06:57 GMT
#272
On January 18 2012 15:45 ToD wrote:
aLive hasn't joined us actually....

By all means, sir, please elaborate upon the wealth of information you have so mysteriously hinted at.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
January 18 2012 06:57 GMT
#273
Ah good dramas back, been too long. Was starting to get worried we had gone stale.
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:57:36
January 18 2012 06:57 GMT
#274
we have to wait for both sides to come out before we think of anything. be smart on this one.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:58:29
January 18 2012 06:57 GMT
#275
On January 18 2012 15:52 Wolf wrote:
I talked to Lee in person about this a few times. I can't believe people think this is because TSL is 'mismanaged'. That's actually so crazy, even with the rumours that have arisen.


So the stuff that Rekrul says, like:
On August 14 2011 15:37 Rekrul wrote:

P.s. fuck oops lee still.


or:
On August 05 2011 04:59 Rekrul wrote:
Even after he originally stole FD and Tester and everyone kinda just let it go and didn't make a big deal about it for the greater good of the growth of SC2 in Korea, Coach Lee was notorious for doing things like going ape shit bitching about very minuscule things such as how many players/which players can get to sit in the team area during matches, which left other coaches and GomTV staff wondering "what the fuck is wrong with this guy?"


or:
On July 22 2011 19:41 Rekrul wrote:
Coach Lee is a hypocrite and a liar. The way he stole Fruitdealer and Tester from OGS in the past was far worse in terms of deceit, lack of business ethics, and backstabbing.

It's not my place to go into details, but all I can say is: Karma is a bitch.



That's all hearsay? I mean, I've followed Mama Bear since MBC, and always liked him, but there has to be more shit going on behind the scenes.
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
January 18 2012 06:57 GMT
#276
I still want to know whats happening with Heart and now aLive isn't on Fnatic. What is happening!!!?!!?
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
January 18 2012 06:57 GMT
#277
On January 18 2012 15:33 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:31 magnaflow wrote:
Is this guy gonna cry everytime one of his star players gets offered a better position?


He let Fnatic train in his house with his team. He tried to partner with Fnatic. Apparently the translator from Fnatic talked Alive into leaving TSL. Alive has a contract.

Anyone would be pissed if this happened. If the story is true, then Fnatic did pretty much the dirtiest thing you could ever do in e-sports. Do you think someone like FXOBoss would be okay with allowing another foreign team to practice with his team and then suddenly leave with Gumiho or Leenock in their back pocket?

Come on now.

I thought Alive left some weeks ago? Im totally confused right now
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 18 2012 06:58 GMT
#278
On January 18 2012 15:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
TSL coach Lee seems so clingy over his players...I don't see the team morale being any better after this fiasco.


Why wouldn't a coach be clingy to his players? In what sport would a player not want a coach to want him on his team? Alive is one of the best Terrans in the world when he plays at his peak performance, so I don't see why Coach Lee would just let a player walk.

No other team in the world would let one of their star players walk for nothing if they were under contract. They would be lambasted by the fans, media, and called morons for doing so.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
January 18 2012 06:58 GMT
#279
Oh wonderful esports drama. Just in time for State of the Game.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 18 2012 07:00 GMT
#280
On January 18 2012 15:33 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:31 magnaflow wrote:
Is this guy gonna cry everytime one of his star players gets offered a better position?


He let Fnatic train in his house with his team. He tried to partner with Fnatic. Apparently the translator from Fnatic talked Alive into leaving TSL. Alive has a contract.

Anyone would be pissed if this happened. If the story is true, then Fnatic did pretty much the dirtiest thing you could ever do in e-sports. Do you think someone like FXOBoss would be okay with allowing another foreign team to practice with his team and then suddenly leave with Gumiho or Leenock in their back pocket?

Come on now.
Wow, that's really dirty. TSL = "Team Soon Leave"? Their roster of left players is incredible: Puma, GuineaPig, Clide, Rain, Fruitdealer, Trickster, Killer, JYP, Alive, Happiness. And they go often in pairs - two in each of EG, Fnatic and Startale.
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