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On January 17 2012 00:31 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 00:29 Fluffboll wrote:On January 17 2012 00:24 FallDownMarigold wrote:On January 17 2012 00:13 Fluffboll wrote:On January 17 2012 00:09 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Lol Xeris once again with the unprofessional behavior... Someone needs to sit down with him and discuss PR issues, including disclosing financial info and whatnot. I cringed when I read some of those posts on the first couple of pages. It's especially not okay to generalize all Koreans based on what, say, Sangho wanted/did. According to Desrow, Golden hardly wants anything, just travel expenses -- that's not 3k/month What is unprofessional about anything he said in this thread? He hasn't disclosed any financial info about anyone, he merely stated what some players asked for while he was with fnatic... maybe you should think for yourself a bit before blindly agreeing with some people just because they happen to have "administrator" next to their name... 1) Blanket statement about koreans 2) Disclosure about activity w/ former team Maybe you should consider that I did think about it and that i happen to agree with kennigit. What's wrong with him being an admin? That's not a rational argument 1) It was a generalized statement about that MOST Koreans asks for way too much and why they are unsigned. Nowhere did he say all Koreans asks for those amounts. 2) Disclosure about activity? really? He was scouting for fnatic and all he said was that he looked into those players to possibly sign them. You're actually trying to call him out on admitting to doing his job? wait, so you think 1.5k and 3k a month is alot? that's 18k and 36k a year respectively... That is a piss poor amount, especially for a "sport" industry where players die out after ~10 years of activity If those amount are too much for sc2 pros, then sc2 won't ever be a big spectator sport
You do realise things start from somewhere? They don't just magically come into existence.
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On January 17 2012 00:38 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 00:31 iky43210 wrote:On January 17 2012 00:29 Fluffboll wrote:On January 17 2012 00:24 FallDownMarigold wrote:On January 17 2012 00:13 Fluffboll wrote:On January 17 2012 00:09 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Lol Xeris once again with the unprofessional behavior... Someone needs to sit down with him and discuss PR issues, including disclosing financial info and whatnot. I cringed when I read some of those posts on the first couple of pages. It's especially not okay to generalize all Koreans based on what, say, Sangho wanted/did. According to Desrow, Golden hardly wants anything, just travel expenses -- that's not 3k/month What is unprofessional about anything he said in this thread? He hasn't disclosed any financial info about anyone, he merely stated what some players asked for while he was with fnatic... maybe you should think for yourself a bit before blindly agreeing with some people just because they happen to have "administrator" next to their name... 1) Blanket statement about koreans 2) Disclosure about activity w/ former team Maybe you should consider that I did think about it and that i happen to agree with kennigit. What's wrong with him being an admin? That's not a rational argument 1) It was a generalized statement about that MOST Koreans asks for way too much and why they are unsigned. Nowhere did he say all Koreans asks for those amounts. 2) Disclosure about activity? really? He was scouting for fnatic and all he said was that he looked into those players to possibly sign them. You're actually trying to call him out on admitting to doing his job? wait, so you think 1.5k and 3k a month is alot? that's 18k and 36k a year respectively... That is a piss poor amount, especially for a "sport" industry where players die out after ~10 years of activity If those amount are too much for sc2 pros, then sc2 won't ever be a big spectator sport You do realise things start from somewhere? They don't just magically come into existence.
sure, but you'll think any starting industry would at least starts off with a wage more than the minimum wage.
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Noo, this guys had a lot of potential! I hope they find a team soon.
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What the hell?!
Oh well, I'll still support Dragon 24/7/24/24/7.
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SC2 has only been out a year, and BW is still going strong after more than a decade. I'm pretty sure tennis/soccer/basketball did not pay this well when they were this young, and we've yet to have tycoons like Abramovich invest in the scene!
...well, except for a certain rich Chinese kid. iG.Dragon/iG.Golden? They have very lucky names for a Chinese team, 2012 being year of the Dragon and all... (Also not unprecedented, Lyn is on the Chinese team PanDa, though playing WC3 mostly)
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Well if Maka get's picked up ... i am sure some other crazy team might look for Golden.
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I'm glad. Slayer's roster has been getting a bit too big for my liking.
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It's kind of sad for Dragon, he was a truly entertaining player, but it seems pretty obvious that he couldn't keep the same rhythm he had. You can't sleep 3 hours a day while working.
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LOL $3000 a month is a lot if you're not paying for housing or food.... Probably not for a car either. So pretty much that's $3000 of entertainment living.
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Oh no, Slayers has basically no Zerg lineup now! Good luck Golden, in your future endeavors. EGGolden perhaps?
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I've watched a lot of Dragon's stream, hopefully this doesn't interfere with that 
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I had a dream last night that SlayerS Dragon was a white person/foreigner... so weird.
Good luck to both players!
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On January 16 2012 17:07 karpo wrote:
Sure, Golden might not win Dreamhack but didn't Sjow win alot of cash just cruising through alot of smaller tournaments online? I'm guessing Golden should be able to win alot of those.
No, Sjow is no online hero. He doesn't hardly participate in any of the small online cups these days.
He has won IEM European Championship (7.5k), The Gathering (5k) and IeSF (12.75k).
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wont be very hard for dragon to find a new team since he has a decent stream population. golden i dont know hes better than dragon but nobody really knows him
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if people are gonna ever take esports seriously financial info needs to be more open (not saying it was right to discuss it here i just mean in general)
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I guess they just want salaries and go to more foreign tournaments.
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On January 17 2012 00:31 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 00:29 Fluffboll wrote:On January 17 2012 00:24 FallDownMarigold wrote:On January 17 2012 00:13 Fluffboll wrote:On January 17 2012 00:09 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Lol Xeris once again with the unprofessional behavior... Someone needs to sit down with him and discuss PR issues, including disclosing financial info and whatnot. I cringed when I read some of those posts on the first couple of pages. It's especially not okay to generalize all Koreans based on what, say, Sangho wanted/did. According to Desrow, Golden hardly wants anything, just travel expenses -- that's not 3k/month What is unprofessional about anything he said in this thread? He hasn't disclosed any financial info about anyone, he merely stated what some players asked for while he was with fnatic... maybe you should think for yourself a bit before blindly agreeing with some people just because they happen to have "administrator" next to their name... 1) Blanket statement about koreans 2) Disclosure about activity w/ former team Maybe you should consider that I did think about it and that i happen to agree with kennigit. What's wrong with him being an admin? That's not a rational argument 1) It was a generalized statement about that MOST Koreans asks for way too much and why they are unsigned. Nowhere did he say all Koreans asks for those amounts. 2) Disclosure about activity? really? He was scouting for fnatic and all he said was that he looked into those players to possibly sign them. You're actually trying to call him out on admitting to doing his job? wait, so you think 1.5k and 3k a month is alot? that's 18k and 36k a year respectively... That is a piss poor amount, especially for a "sport" industry where players die out after ~10 years of activity If those amount are too much for sc2 pros, then sc2 won't ever be a big spectator sport
It doesn't matter what you; or anyone else considers "alot". What matters is what the community can support. What do you honestly think organizations get from sponsors? Golden doubloons? That is some organizations entire monthly budget...if you're lucky..and most players asking for that much are simply not worth it.
On January 16 2012 22:53 desRow wrote:
Golden only wants travel expenses shouldnt be too hard for him to find a team
Travel expenses....from Korea. Not exactly a drop in a bucket.
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On January 17 2012 01:29 KeyHunt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 00:31 iky43210 wrote:On January 17 2012 00:29 Fluffboll wrote:On January 17 2012 00:24 FallDownMarigold wrote:On January 17 2012 00:13 Fluffboll wrote:On January 17 2012 00:09 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Lol Xeris once again with the unprofessional behavior... Someone needs to sit down with him and discuss PR issues, including disclosing financial info and whatnot. I cringed when I read some of those posts on the first couple of pages. It's especially not okay to generalize all Koreans based on what, say, Sangho wanted/did. According to Desrow, Golden hardly wants anything, just travel expenses -- that's not 3k/month What is unprofessional about anything he said in this thread? He hasn't disclosed any financial info about anyone, he merely stated what some players asked for while he was with fnatic... maybe you should think for yourself a bit before blindly agreeing with some people just because they happen to have "administrator" next to their name... 1) Blanket statement about koreans 2) Disclosure about activity w/ former team Maybe you should consider that I did think about it and that i happen to agree with kennigit. What's wrong with him being an admin? That's not a rational argument 1) It was a generalized statement about that MOST Koreans asks for way too much and why they are unsigned. Nowhere did he say all Koreans asks for those amounts. 2) Disclosure about activity? really? He was scouting for fnatic and all he said was that he looked into those players to possibly sign them. You're actually trying to call him out on admitting to doing his job? wait, so you think 1.5k and 3k a month is alot? that's 18k and 36k a year respectively... That is a piss poor amount, especially for a "sport" industry where players die out after ~10 years of activity If those amount are too much for sc2 pros, then sc2 won't ever be a big spectator sport It doesn't matter what you; or anyone else considers "alot". What matters is what the community can support. What do you honestly think organizations get from sponsors? Golden doubloons? That is some organizations entire monthly budget...if you're lucky..and most players asking for that much are simply not worth it. Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 22:53 desRow wrote:
Golden only wants travel expenses shouldnt be too hard for him to find a team Travel expenses....from Korea. Not exactly a drop in a bucket.
Travel expenses isnt that bad as teams dont send players to everyyy tournament.
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