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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 16 2012 15:38 GMT
#361
On January 17 2012 00:31 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 00:29 Fluffboll wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:24 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:13 Fluffboll wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:09 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Lol Xeris once again with the unprofessional behavior... Someone needs to sit down with him and discuss PR issues, including disclosing financial info and whatnot. I cringed when I read some of those posts on the first couple of pages. It's especially not okay to generalize all Koreans based on what, say, Sangho wanted/did. According to Desrow, Golden hardly wants anything, just travel expenses -- that's not 3k/month


What is unprofessional about anything he said in this thread? He hasn't disclosed any financial info about anyone, he merely stated what some players asked for while he was with fnatic... maybe you should think for yourself a bit before blindly agreeing with some people just because they happen to have "administrator" next to their name...


1) Blanket statement about koreans
2) Disclosure about activity w/ former team

Maybe you should consider that I did think about it and that i happen to agree with kennigit. What's wrong with him being an admin? That's not a rational argument


1) It was a generalized statement about that MOST Koreans asks for way too much and why they are unsigned. Nowhere did he say all Koreans asks for those amounts.

2) Disclosure about activity? really? He was scouting for fnatic and all he said was that he looked into those players to possibly sign them. You're actually trying to call him out on admitting to doing his job?


wait, so you think 1.5k and 3k a month is alot?

that's 18k and 36k a year respectively... That is a piss poor amount, especially for a "sport" industry where players die out after ~10 years of activity

If those amount are too much for sc2 pros, then sc2 won't ever be a big spectator sport


You do realise things start from somewhere? They don't just magically come into existence.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
January 16 2012 15:40 GMT
#362
On January 17 2012 00:38 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 00:31 iky43210 wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:29 Fluffboll wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:24 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:13 Fluffboll wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:09 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Lol Xeris once again with the unprofessional behavior... Someone needs to sit down with him and discuss PR issues, including disclosing financial info and whatnot. I cringed when I read some of those posts on the first couple of pages. It's especially not okay to generalize all Koreans based on what, say, Sangho wanted/did. According to Desrow, Golden hardly wants anything, just travel expenses -- that's not 3k/month


What is unprofessional about anything he said in this thread? He hasn't disclosed any financial info about anyone, he merely stated what some players asked for while he was with fnatic... maybe you should think for yourself a bit before blindly agreeing with some people just because they happen to have "administrator" next to their name...


1) Blanket statement about koreans
2) Disclosure about activity w/ former team

Maybe you should consider that I did think about it and that i happen to agree with kennigit. What's wrong with him being an admin? That's not a rational argument


1) It was a generalized statement about that MOST Koreans asks for way too much and why they are unsigned. Nowhere did he say all Koreans asks for those amounts.

2) Disclosure about activity? really? He was scouting for fnatic and all he said was that he looked into those players to possibly sign them. You're actually trying to call him out on admitting to doing his job?


wait, so you think 1.5k and 3k a month is alot?

that's 18k and 36k a year respectively... That is a piss poor amount, especially for a "sport" industry where players die out after ~10 years of activity

If those amount are too much for sc2 pros, then sc2 won't ever be a big spectator sport


You do realise things start from somewhere? They don't just magically come into existence.


sure, but you'll think any starting industry would at least starts off with a wage more than the minimum wage.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
January 16 2012 15:41 GMT
#363
Noo, this guys had a lot of potential! I hope they find a team soon.
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
January 16 2012 15:43 GMT
#364
What the hell?!

Oh well, I'll still support Dragon 24/7/24/24/7.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
January 16 2012 15:49 GMT
#365
SC2 has only been out a year, and BW is still going strong after more than a decade. I'm pretty sure tennis/soccer/basketball did not pay this well when they were this young, and we've yet to have tycoons like Abramovich invest in the scene!

...well, except for a certain rich Chinese kid. iG.Dragon/iG.Golden? They have very lucky names for a Chinese team, 2012 being year of the Dragon and all... (Also not unprecedented, Lyn is on the Chinese team PanDa, though playing WC3 mostly)
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 16 2012 15:51 GMT
#366
Well if Maka get's picked up ... i am sure some other crazy team might look for Golden.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 16 2012 15:56 GMT
#367
I'm glad. Slayer's roster has been getting a bit too big for my liking.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
January 16 2012 15:58 GMT
#368
It's kind of sad for Dragon, he was a truly entertaining player, but it seems pretty obvious that he couldn't keep the same rhythm he had. You can't sleep 3 hours a day while working.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 16:05:52
January 16 2012 16:05 GMT
#369
LOL $3000 a month is a lot if you're not paying for housing or food.... Probably not for a car either. So pretty much that's $3000 of entertainment living.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 16 2012 16:09 GMT
#370
Oh no, Slayers has basically no Zerg lineup now! Good luck Golden, in your future endeavors. EGGolden perhaps?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#371
I've watched a lot of Dragon's stream, hopefully this doesn't interfere with that
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
January 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#372
EG.Golden
EG.Dragon
Fav Terran: forGG, aLive, Jinro ||| Fav Zerg: Moon, TLO, DRG ||| Fav Protoss: Genius, Grubby, ToD
Eogris
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States148 Posts
January 16 2012 16:12 GMT
#373
I had a dream last night that SlayerS Dragon was a white person/foreigner... so weird.

Good luck to both players!
THE NUKES GONNA LAND ON HIS ARMYYYYYYYYYYY
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 16 2012 16:19 GMT
#374
On January 16 2012 17:07 karpo wrote:
Sure, Golden might not win Dreamhack but didn't Sjow win alot of cash just cruising through alot of smaller tournaments online? I'm guessing Golden should be able to win alot of those.


No, Sjow is no online hero. He doesn't hardly participate in any of the small online cups these days.
He has won IEM European Championship (7.5k), The Gathering (5k) and IeSF (12.75k).
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
January 16 2012 16:23 GMT
#375
wont be very hard for dragon to find a new team since he has a decent stream population. golden i dont know hes better than dragon but nobody really knows him
atmuh
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
January 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#376
if people are gonna ever take esports seriously financial info needs to be more open (not saying it was right to discuss it here i just mean in general)
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
January 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#377
I guess they just want salaries and go to more foreign tournaments.
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
January 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#378
sad for dragon t.t
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 16:30:58
January 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#379
On January 17 2012 00:31 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 00:29 Fluffboll wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:24 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:13 Fluffboll wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:09 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Lol Xeris once again with the unprofessional behavior... Someone needs to sit down with him and discuss PR issues, including disclosing financial info and whatnot. I cringed when I read some of those posts on the first couple of pages. It's especially not okay to generalize all Koreans based on what, say, Sangho wanted/did. According to Desrow, Golden hardly wants anything, just travel expenses -- that's not 3k/month


What is unprofessional about anything he said in this thread? He hasn't disclosed any financial info about anyone, he merely stated what some players asked for while he was with fnatic... maybe you should think for yourself a bit before blindly agreeing with some people just because they happen to have "administrator" next to their name...


1) Blanket statement about koreans
2) Disclosure about activity w/ former team

Maybe you should consider that I did think about it and that i happen to agree with kennigit. What's wrong with him being an admin? That's not a rational argument


1) It was a generalized statement about that MOST Koreans asks for way too much and why they are unsigned. Nowhere did he say all Koreans asks for those amounts.

2) Disclosure about activity? really? He was scouting for fnatic and all he said was that he looked into those players to possibly sign them. You're actually trying to call him out on admitting to doing his job?


wait, so you think 1.5k and 3k a month is alot?

that's 18k and 36k a year respectively... That is a piss poor amount, especially for a "sport" industry where players die out after ~10 years of activity

If those amount are too much for sc2 pros, then sc2 won't ever be a big spectator sport


It doesn't matter what you; or anyone else considers "alot". What matters is what the community can support. What do you honestly think organizations get from sponsors? Golden doubloons? That is some organizations entire monthly budget...if you're lucky..and most players asking for that much are simply not worth it.

On January 16 2012 22:53 desRow wrote:
Golden only wants travel expenses shouldnt be too hard for him to find a team


Travel expenses....from Korea. Not exactly a drop in a bucket.
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
January 16 2012 16:33 GMT
#380
On January 17 2012 01:29 KeyHunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 00:31 iky43210 wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:29 Fluffboll wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:24 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:13 Fluffboll wrote:
On January 17 2012 00:09 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Lol Xeris once again with the unprofessional behavior... Someone needs to sit down with him and discuss PR issues, including disclosing financial info and whatnot. I cringed when I read some of those posts on the first couple of pages. It's especially not okay to generalize all Koreans based on what, say, Sangho wanted/did. According to Desrow, Golden hardly wants anything, just travel expenses -- that's not 3k/month


What is unprofessional about anything he said in this thread? He hasn't disclosed any financial info about anyone, he merely stated what some players asked for while he was with fnatic... maybe you should think for yourself a bit before blindly agreeing with some people just because they happen to have "administrator" next to their name...


1) Blanket statement about koreans
2) Disclosure about activity w/ former team

Maybe you should consider that I did think about it and that i happen to agree with kennigit. What's wrong with him being an admin? That's not a rational argument


1) It was a generalized statement about that MOST Koreans asks for way too much and why they are unsigned. Nowhere did he say all Koreans asks for those amounts.

2) Disclosure about activity? really? He was scouting for fnatic and all he said was that he looked into those players to possibly sign them. You're actually trying to call him out on admitting to doing his job?


wait, so you think 1.5k and 3k a month is alot?

that's 18k and 36k a year respectively... That is a piss poor amount, especially for a "sport" industry where players die out after ~10 years of activity

If those amount are too much for sc2 pros, then sc2 won't ever be a big spectator sport


It doesn't matter what you; or anyone else considers "alot". What matters is what the community can support. What do you honestly think organizations get from sponsors? Golden doubloons? That is some organizations entire monthly budget...if you're lucky..and most players asking for that much are simply not worth it.

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:53 desRow wrote:
Golden only wants travel expenses shouldnt be too hard for him to find a team


Travel expenses....from Korea. Not exactly a drop in a bucket.

Travel expenses isnt that bad as teams dont send players to everyyy tournament.
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
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