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MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
January 16 2012 13:48 GMT
#321
On January 16 2012 22:47 SaberNodoka wrote:
What's Dragon's main career?


Working.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 13:49:47
January 16 2012 13:49 GMT
#322
--- Nuked ---
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 16 2012 13:52 GMT
#323
SlayerSGolden
i leave SlayerS .. likely to go foreigner team. pray for me !


Retweeted by e_Sahara
__________________________________________________

What does this mean? :D
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
January 16 2012 13:53 GMT
#324
Golden only wants travel expenses shouldnt be too hard for him to find a team
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Poehalcho
Profile Joined October 2011
149 Posts
January 16 2012 13:56 GMT
#325
Dragon needs to go to Quantic. I can already imagine it, Destiny and Dragon happy troll hour.
Great Master Chief Nerdotaku God Emperor Bauss
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
January 16 2012 13:59 GMT
#326
On January 16 2012 21:41 Jotoco wrote:
I think keeping salaries secret actually is worse for the players.

If everyone knows, and knows someone makes little money it is easier to know you can make a difference. Like, some rich guy that loves eSports could actually personally sponsor a player. Because to many it is not that much money.

Like that Lazarus kid, he had his own pro-gaming team, right? What if people knew it took so little money? There could be an influx on money because of that.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


About the actual salaries of players I can probably say Idra and Huk probably have the best salaries.

They both (and specially Idra) can move HUGE amounts of viewers and bring so much marketing to your brand.



Secret salaries are generally worse for players, but there are always a few that will make it anyway. The main issue is how hardball they can go in dealing with the team. The stars that can be a pain in the ass about money, or have someone being a pain for them, will have a upper hand. The rest will probably suffer more than needed due to teams compensating all over to meet the highest demands.

If players would care anything about getting anything done as a group, they should form a players union of some sort. This is something teams happy with current way of work do not want. It can be said to be a "forced" situation due to sponsor money etc etc, but that is just talking around the real subject.

I am not young enough to know everything.
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
January 16 2012 14:01 GMT
#327
On January 16 2012 22:56 Poehalcho wrote:
Dragon needs to go to Quantic. I can already imagine it, Destiny and Dragon happy troll hour.

Thats what I was thinking. Destiny knows how good dragon is as dragon has a winning record vs him (5 - 1 i believe). Maybe he could put in a good word for him.
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Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 14:07:49
January 16 2012 14:07 GMT
#328
On January 16 2012 21:41 Jotoco wrote:
I think keeping salaries secret actually is worse for the players.

If everyone knows, and knows someone makes little money it is easier to know you can make a difference. Like, some rich guy that loves eSports could actually personally sponsor a player. Because to many it is not that much money.

Like that Lazarus kid, he had his own pro-gaming team, right? What if people knew it took so little money? There could be an influx on money because of that.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


About the actual salaries of players I can probably say Idra and Huk probably have the best salaries.

They both (and specially Idra) can move HUGE amounts of viewers and bring so much marketing to your brand.



Then let the players decide what to reveal and what not. Don't do it for them. It's also very different to reveal a finalized contract than to reveal positions in ongoing negotiations like Xeris just did. That's completely inappropriate.
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 14:11:09
January 16 2012 14:10 GMT
#329
On January 16 2012 22:59 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 21:41 Jotoco wrote:
I think keeping salaries secret actually is worse for the players.

If everyone knows, and knows someone makes little money it is easier to know you can make a difference. Like, some rich guy that loves eSports could actually personally sponsor a player. Because to many it is not that much money.

Like that Lazarus kid, he had his own pro-gaming team, right? What if people knew it took so little money? There could be an influx on money because of that.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


About the actual salaries of players I can probably say Idra and Huk probably have the best salaries.

They both (and specially Idra) can move HUGE amounts of viewers and bring so much marketing to your brand.



Secret salaries are generally worse for players, but there are always a few that will make it anyway. The main issue is how hardball they can go in dealing with the team. The stars that can be a pain in the ass about money, or have someone being a pain for them, will have a upper hand. The rest will probably suffer more than needed due to teams compensating all over to meet the highest demands.

If players would care anything about getting anything done as a group, they should form a players union of some sort. This is something teams happy with current way of work do not want. It can be said to be a "forced" situation due to sponsor money etc etc, but that is just talking around the real subject.



Your aware that it was stated around page 3-4 of this thread that people in Esports (players, team, Diamond (casters) know roughly how much everyone is making. If your simply a TL poster you have no idea. Basically the players know how much everyone is making, it just us the outsiders that don't.

Eventually it will come to a stage that we will know, but till then the players aren't getting the short end unless there signing their first contract and have no idea how much other pros are making in there same skill level.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
January 16 2012 14:14 GMT
#330
On January 16 2012 22:56 Poehalcho wrote:
Dragon needs to go to Quantic. I can already imagine it, Destiny and Dragon happy troll hour.


Hah, that would be a great fit for Dragon! I can only imagine the hilarity that is a Dragon/Destiny 2v2 team.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
January 16 2012 14:23 GMT
#331
January 16th, 2012, Seoul - We are sad to announce that Dragon and Golden decided to leave our team. Golden, who has been a part of our team since the very beginning, decided to part ways with our team after a long discussion with our management, where he expressed his strong desire to explore his opportunities in a foreign team. Dragon, however, decided to put gaming aside, at least from a professional perspective, in order to fully focus on work.

We wish both players the best of luck, and we would like our appreciation towards both for being a part of our teama in 2011.

Team SlayerS


http://www.facebook.com/notes/team-slayers/dragon-and-golden-left-team-slayers/223578687726280
tDKyou
Profile Joined September 2011
United States202 Posts
January 16 2012 14:28 GMT
#332
On January 16 2012 22:36 KicKDoG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 21:09 tDKyou wrote:
DRAGON TO QUANTIC, CALLING IT.


yeah i think so too! Quantic or coL? >.<


I was thinking Quantic since they're in need of some Terran power lol. They've been snagging a decent amount of players lately and they have a setup with Startale to accommodate for training in Korea whereas coL doesn't (to my knowledge.) Plus it'd be interesting to see how Dragon would behave under the same roof as Destiny :p.
SeleCT - RainBOw - Bomber - TaeJa - Mvp
MyLastSerenade
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany710 Posts
January 16 2012 14:29 GMT
#333
hmmm dragon wants to focus on work? hope he kepps his funny streaming up
Secret05
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
January 16 2012 14:30 GMT
#334
On January 16 2012 23:28 tDKyou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:36 KicKDoG wrote:
On January 16 2012 21:09 tDKyou wrote:
DRAGON TO QUANTIC, CALLING IT.


yeah i think so too! Quantic or coL? >.<


I was thinking Quantic since they're in need of some Terran power lol. They've been snagging a decent amount of players lately and they have a setup with Startale to accommodate for training in Korea whereas coL doesn't (to my knowledge.) Plus it'd be interesting to see how Dragon would behave under the same roof as Destiny :p.


coL has the MVP house... they were the 2nd team to setup korean housing after TL i think
Michigan Zerg Player
tDKyou
Profile Joined September 2011
United States202 Posts
January 16 2012 14:35 GMT
#335
On January 16 2012 23:30 Secret05 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 23:28 tDKyou wrote:
On January 16 2012 22:36 KicKDoG wrote:
On January 16 2012 21:09 tDKyou wrote:
DRAGON TO QUANTIC, CALLING IT.


yeah i think so too! Quantic or coL? >.<


I was thinking Quantic since they're in need of some Terran power lol. They've been snagging a decent amount of players lately and they have a setup with Startale to accommodate for training in Korea whereas coL doesn't (to my knowledge.) Plus it'd be interesting to see how Dragon would behave under the same roof as Destiny :p.


coL has the MVP house... they were the 2nd team to setup korean housing after TL i think


OH RIGHT. I completely spaced lol.. I knew I was forgetting something.
SeleCT - RainBOw - Bomber - TaeJa - Mvp
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
January 16 2012 14:36 GMT
#336
On January 16 2012 23:30 Secret05 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 23:28 tDKyou wrote:
On January 16 2012 22:36 KicKDoG wrote:
On January 16 2012 21:09 tDKyou wrote:
DRAGON TO QUANTIC, CALLING IT.


yeah i think so too! Quantic or coL? >.<


I was thinking Quantic since they're in need of some Terran power lol. They've been snagging a decent amount of players lately and they have a setup with Startale to accommodate for training in Korea whereas coL doesn't (to my knowledge.) Plus it'd be interesting to see how Dragon would behave under the same roof as Destiny :p.


coL has the MVP house... they were the 2nd team to setup korean housing after TL i think


FXO I'd say even if they arranged it differently.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
January 16 2012 14:45 GMT
#337
On January 16 2012 22:02 Tomken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 20:09 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On January 16 2012 17:26 89andy wrote:
Now the question is who is in the so called GOD1 and GOD2 tiers haha. Less than 5 people combined in those two tiers I presume?


can you seriously not guess who god1 and 2 are? lol

Flash
JD & Bisu

Is this a troll or am I just retarded?

I was 99% sure God1=Idra and God2=HuK untill I read this...
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
January 16 2012 14:48 GMT
#338
On January 16 2012 23:45 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:02 Tomken wrote:
On January 16 2012 20:09 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On January 16 2012 17:26 89andy wrote:
Now the question is who is in the so called GOD1 and GOD2 tiers haha. Less than 5 people combined in those two tiers I presume?


can you seriously not guess who god1 and 2 are? lol

Flash
JD & Bisu

Is this a troll or am I just retarded?

I was 99% sure God1=Idra and God2=HuK untill I read this...


It's most likely a troll since none of those players play SC2
You need to construct additional pylons.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#339
I keep thinking back to what TT1 posted earlier. He wasn't the first person to say those things, but I am starting to wonder more what things will look like 5 years from now in terms of progaming inside and outside South Korea. Will non-South Korean teams work hard to develop their own crop of players, or will they resort of enticing Koreans to join them? There's nothing wrong with bringing Korean players into your teams, but do you end up sacrificing providing the resources to your own local players by doing so?

I have watched quite a bit of Dragon's stream and he's great to watch, and maybe alot of the engagement he gets from his international fans is making him want to join a foreign team more.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
DennizR
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden653 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 14:56:59
January 16 2012 14:55 GMT
#340
On January 16 2012 23:45 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:02 Tomken wrote:
On January 16 2012 20:09 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On January 16 2012 17:26 89andy wrote:
Now the question is who is in the so called GOD1 and GOD2 tiers haha. Less than 5 people combined in those two tiers I presume?


can you seriously not guess who god1 and 2 are? lol

Flash
JD & Bisu

Is this a troll or am I just retarded?

I was 99% sure God1=Idra and God2=HuK untill I read this...


Uhm, it says that he is assuming his personal intel sponsorship is huge. Idra doesnt have personal intel sponsorship, does he? I assumed it was Boxer.

I think Idra/Huk gets around 4k a month as a salary? Also random benefits/EG doesnt take any percentage of tournament winnings etc I believe...
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