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On January 11 2012 06:36 jpak wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 06:29 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 05:54 floor exercise wrote:On January 11 2012 05:42 dAPhREAk wrote:Similarly, cooperation with overseas tournaments has led to more players participating frequently overseas, further improving the financial situation of Korean players. this is both humorous and depressing. =| good interview. Korea has it pretty good in SC2, foreign teams and tournaments pay their players more and more, while foreigners pay more and more to watch Korean leagues Why must you make the distinction? We're all just Starcraft fans/players. Nationality does not matter. A relic, if you can call it that, from the Brood War days when koreans were just way above everyone else in skill. Except Koreans are stilllll better than foreigners today :p
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On January 11 2012 06:39 Clbull wrote: The real burning questions I would have asked Mr. Chae:
1. Why can't you just admit that NaNiwa had been punished through the revoking of his Code S seed for probe rushing a meaningless game? Your alternative explanation that he had no seed in the first place seemed a bit crazy because it broke the agreement of the League Exchange Program, and seemed more like an insult to the first (and only) non-Korean that would have earned a seed through the system.
2. Any plans to provide restreams of the GSL for Western audiences? Us Europeans are a bit pissed off with being required to watch in late morning and I'm sure a lot of Americans are pissed off with having to watch extremely early morning?
3. Any plans to improve the GSL format some more? In particular Code A where your odds of being eliminated from the GSL depend on the opponent you face (In the case of NaNiwa, he faced Lucky (known to have near unstoppable ZvP).... TWICE IN A ROW each time he did earn a Code A seed.) I feel a Ro48 group stage is a necessity to actually more fairly determine who should remain in the GSL..
4. Any plans to ditch GOM Player as a requirement for HQ streaming? You know..... because Twitch TV is more convenient, has a better SQ stream, lets you place a paywall on certain qualities, doesn't require you to run external software to view and is more popular outside of South Korea. Oh and also because every other major tournament uses a browser based flash livestream.
5. In response to the NASL finally promising free VODs in Season 3 and with successful leagues such as Major League Gaming, IGN Pro League, Dreamhack, WCG, ESWC etc offering free ad supported videos on demand. Will GOMTV finally do what every other major tournament has done and remove the paywall from VODs?
Great questions! But it'll take someone with balls to ask them and Mr. Chae probably won't even answer!
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On January 11 2012 06:36 jpak wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 06:29 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 05:54 floor exercise wrote:On January 11 2012 05:42 dAPhREAk wrote:Similarly, cooperation with overseas tournaments has led to more players participating frequently overseas, further improving the financial situation of Korean players. this is both humorous and depressing. =| good interview. Korea has it pretty good in SC2, foreign teams and tournaments pay their players more and more, while foreigners pay more and more to watch Korean leagues Why must you make the distinction? We're all just Starcraft fans/players. Nationality does not matter. A relic, if you can call it that, from the Brood War days when koreans were just way above everyone else in skill.
"were"?
great things are to come! i'm looking forward to 2013
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On January 11 2012 04:30 felisconcolori wrote: Is it just me, or are all of the interviews with major movers at the top coming complete with "big things are coming, we have stuff we'll say in the future" statements?
Also, after reading how many times GSL is interested in working with people that "aggressively pursue them", I have to wonder... is Gom "aggressively" pursuing anyone themselves? Or are they like that guy/girl at the bar that doesn't ever approach someone else, because they're pretty enough that people should come to them? (That sounds meaner than I intended. I just want to know if they're being passive outside of their own microcosm of Korea, instead of reaching out themselves to partners that may not realize how much Gom may have to offer.) Your first question - ESPORTS is growing - obv big things are coming. Second question - GSL is basically the biggest organization in ESPORTS atm, do you really expect them to "seek out" - small companies/organizations? That's not how business works.
Also I love last question and answer xD
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On January 11 2012 08:15 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 07:39 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 07:26 Talin wrote:On January 11 2012 07:24 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 07:18 Talin wrote:I'm very disappointed with the approach GOM is taking. I get that they want global exposure and foreign viewers, but they should probably be thinking a little more about their status as a respectable competition. They come off sounding like a western-based organization at this point, and that is far from being a compliment. On January 11 2012 07:15 TedJustice wrote: More sponsors = More money = More eSports for you to enjoy. Then again, Quality > Quantity. GOM do the least inviting of any major eSports league. Strange, I could've sworn I've been watching at least two that don't do ANY inviting, even though at this point we're now only left with one. MLG - Invites 4 Koreans. IEM - Invites 4 Koreans. Dreamhack - Invites virtually everyone. IPL - Invited most of their seeded players for IPL 3. NASL - Almost all players invited. Assembly - Invites almost all their players. By contrast GSL invites only two foreigners to Code S. and don't you agree that a league where everyone has a chance to qualify for nearly all the spots is way better in sporting way? I don't like tournaments where nearly every spots are given away per invite under that regard because it allways a subjective oppinion who is worthy to be invited. So i really like the way the GSL works in that regard. Everyone has the chance to qualify under the same circumstances (no lag cause it's offline, GOM let's you even live in their house for free!). So if you are good enough, you will qualify and if not you won't. It's very fair to everyone. And the argument that you have to commit so much in time by staying in korea... well you only have to stay there for 1 day of the qualifier at the start, after that you know if you are qualified, then you have to stay for code a. But since the matches are sheduled a long time before they are played, I think it's ok for a pro gamer. And I understand why not so many foreigners have taken the shot for the GSL until now. It's not the fact, that they don't want to commit a lot of time to a stay in korea, it's very much more, that they see, that they only have very little chances to succeed. And you should also look what a guranteed Code S spot means. It means guranteed 1k bucks. You can lose all your games and get 1k $ for that. There is no tournament out there, where you have a situation like this. So even the 2 invite slots are very questionable in my oppinion.
In an absolute ideal world everything in Starcraft would be earnt on merit. We'd just have a Tennis style format where there's minor and major tournaments all impacting upon world rankings which earn you seedings to the major tournaments and everyone can easilly afford to visit every event and the sponsors, teams and prize money pays a sufficient salary for around 100 pro's who make up the scene.
Now obviously there isn't the money in Sc2 to make this happen. I do agree that granting Code S spots to foreigners is undeserved but GOM has a business to run and we're not at the stage where GOM don't have to actively pursue good business decisions to keep their business afloat.
Just accept that this is the real world and not an eSports utopia where pro starcraft is more popular than the World Cup so it's a necessary 'evil' which doesn't really effect to tournaments too heavily but do ensure that we're able to have any tournaments at all.
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This is a great interview, Mr. Chae is great and that's why i bought my pass and will continue to do so.
Also love the comment about the BW pros, it really is about the amount of practice. If they are serious about it like they are with BW they will be very good, some will be great and a few will probably dominate. But it's a matter of practice and talent not just because they are good in BW. The forGG comment makes Mr. Chae look really smart now, hehe. Code S is not easy, even for BW pros. He needs more practice and wins before he is considered the best.
Look forward to tomorow, where hopefully idra will give us some foreign much needed hope! GSL keeps getting better and have my utmost apreciacion.
There is only 2 major sports for me right now, football (soccer for those guys.. ) and SC2! GSL is clearly the Champions League of SC2 :D
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On January 11 2012 07:28 SenorChang wrote:Mr Chae nailed the last question so hard. Smart dude. Show nested quote +Also, we have some good news regarding the GSTL that will be sure to surprise you. Look forward to it, we guarantee it won't disappoint. Curious to see what that is going to be, hate waiting for announcements!
Most likely the addition of some foreign teams. I'm not sure on "who", but EG and Liquid plan on having at least 5 players in Korea.
Jinro, Hero, Zenio, Ret, Haypro, TLO (all confirmed to go to Korea at some point, correct me if I'm mistaken) Huk, IdrA, PuMa, JYP (all confirmed to go to Korea at some point, correct me if I'm mistaken), and then maybe Demuslim who was supposed to go earlier.
Also could be the addition the Chinese Super-star team, or other Korean teams like ProS.
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I am glad someone like Mr Chae is a director at GOM, everything he says is smart and well researched, every decision GOM have made this year has been great. The new format is great, the year ahead is looking to be better than last year with everything going forward. GOM is great for Global StarCraft, that's for sure.
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I can't lie, I got pretty sick of hearing all about the elephant in the room. It was nice to see some top flight pros show that ForGG isn't invincible.
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Cool article, great he answered so many questions. Regarding the GOMTV Player, i would love to have a linux version which should be compatible with mac, too.. i think quite a few ppl would be happy to have that
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Very good interview. I liked the phrasing of the questions and the topics you've asked. However I would've loved to hear Mr. Chae's thoughts on a planned visible improvement of the HD quality of the stream and therefore the VODs. If you compare for example the GSL HD to the IPL3 HD... well, you could almost start crying. :/
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sucks i can't post in strategy forums anymore because of some dumb ass tl mods...
User was banned for this post.
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On January 11 2012 07:50 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +We plan to switch from the full-league format from second half 2011 into a double elimination tournament format. The full league had an advantage in that many teams could appear often, but individual matches lacked excitement, and teams that employed too many rookie players which decreased the entertainment value of the tournament.
Everyone thank the IM Coach.
Thank you IM coach! Now we don't get a awesome full sized league. Instead we get three separate tournaments, no TL Fantasy League(probably), and the importance of winning the team leagues is considerably less! hoo........ray
Also I agree with what someone earlier in the thread said, would love to see the Players league format(with ace match god damnit) instead of the winners league; it is just more exciting and gives you a real way to get behind your team.
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On January 11 2012 04:20 Waxangel wrote: That last question and answer. I've never been so owned.
Priceless :D anyway great interview and eventhough it didn't bring anything unexpected to the table it is nice the hear that the GSL seems stable.
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please proleague format for next gstl instead of winners league
then we wont have another MVPdrg
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On January 11 2012 04:20 Waxangel wrote: That last question and answer. I've never been so owned.
Poor Wax
It looks like he owned everybody, though.
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On January 11 2012 09:12 rewired wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 07:50 Fionn wrote:We plan to switch from the full-league format from second half 2011 into a double elimination tournament format. The full league had an advantage in that many teams could appear often, but individual matches lacked excitement, and teams that employed too many rookie players which decreased the entertainment value of the tournament.
Everyone thank the IM Coach. Thank you IM coach! Now we don't get a awesome full sized league. Instead we get three separate tournaments, no TL Fantasy League(probably), and the importance of winning the team leagues is considerably less! hoo........ray Also I agree with what someone earlier in the thread said, would love to see the Players league format(with ace match god damnit) instead of the winners league; it is just more exciting and gives you a real way to get behind your team. Agree. GOM have done everything to please viewer demands, but man do they need to use the Proleague format. Based on Mr Chae's interview though, it seems as if they're moving away from that direction, where they'd rather see established players own up each other in the team leagues rather than lesser known players . The answer to me seems to suggest they prefer the excitement of the Winner's League format rather than the standard teamleague format.
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"Hyun and ForGG have yet to be proven. They have been good in Code A, but it's correct to judge them only after seeing their Code S games."
Mr. Chae can see the future!
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Yeah what a fantastic response to the last question; pretty much captures everything that needs to be said on the issue. GOM have been very responsive and with the exception of the Nani situation, they have been pretty awesome.
Proleague format would be so damn juicy
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On January 11 2012 08:21 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 06:36 jpak wrote:On January 11 2012 06:29 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 05:54 floor exercise wrote:On January 11 2012 05:42 dAPhREAk wrote:Similarly, cooperation with overseas tournaments has led to more players participating frequently overseas, further improving the financial situation of Korean players. this is both humorous and depressing. =| good interview. Korea has it pretty good in SC2, foreign teams and tournaments pay their players more and more, while foreigners pay more and more to watch Korean leagues Why must you make the distinction? We're all just Starcraft fans/players. Nationality does not matter. A relic, if you can call it that, from the Brood War days when koreans were just way above everyone else in skill. Except Koreans are stilllll better than foreigners today :p
They're not "WAY above" everyone else nowadays. They're now just "above" everyone else.
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