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On January 11 2012 06:50 Clbull wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 06:45 Rannasha wrote:Great interview. The questions were good and the answers were often quite enlightening. One thing regarding the GOM Player though: Of course, we are planning to continue to improve our propriety platform, GOM Player. If there's anything that interferes with international viewers watching the GSL, we are always looking to improve ourselves, so please don't hesitate to send us feedback. I feel that GomTV is on the wrong path pushing its own player where every other tournament uses a regular flash player. If I want to get someone to check out an awesome SC2 match about to go live, that person is unlikely to first install GOM Player, then install GOM Streamer and only then be able to watch. For MLG / DH / NASL / etc people can just open the website and start watching. GOM Player adds an unnecessary hurdle to watching the GSL. They already have a flash player that works fine, their VOD-player, so why not use that for the live stream too? A question I missed is something about the stream quality. Most foreign tournaments have free streams that are as good as or better than the paid stream from GOM and the free GSL stream looks like something that escaped from the dialup era. Would be nice to see some improvement here. I posted the same opinion on SCReddit and got downvoted to oblivion because there are clearly people who will lick the shoes of the GSL regardless of any flaws they have, just because Tastosis. It's a good point though, I feel like GOM Player is a deterrent and that if Gretech are serious about promoting their media player to international audiences, they shouldn't be making it mandatory to use in order to watch the GSL.
I don't mind and the fact that most people aren't raising it as a point means that they don't mind either. If it was as big of an issue as you suggest, more people would complain about it, but instead only a few actually do. Hell, GOMtv is owned by Gretech so the player requirements aren't so different as compared to catering to the needs of a sponsor.
And I like the way you characterize the people who disagree with you. -.-
Maybe people just happen to have a different opinion than you and how the hell is Tastosis even relevant to this?
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He seems quite intelligent. I liked all his answers and think GSL is doing a good job as a whole. The format did suffer a bit before but I can understand now why they chose such options before. As of now I think basically everything is good about the GSL with as minor nitpick that I'd prefer them to use a normal standard player for streaming.
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On January 11 2012 06:51 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 06:39 Clbull wrote:
The real burning questions I would have asked Mr. Chae:
1. Why can't you just admit that the "ameteur prize money hunter" NaNiwa had been punished through the revoking of his Code S seed for probe rushing a meaningless game? Your alternative explanation that he had no seed in the first place seemed a bit risky because it broke the agreement of the League Exchange Program.
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For fuck sakes, this was a mistranslation. STOP BRINGING IT UP.
Yeah, seriously. The same day that "amateur prize money hunter" thread popped up, there was also a second one clarifying that it was a mistranslation ... but I notice these boycotters harassing gsl threads love to bring up that quote again and again even though it is false. 
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On January 11 2012 06:37 Firesilver wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 06:17 Fandango wrote:
Man I love esports, the only place where interviewees are clearly being selective about questions they answer so they come off in a good light (unless TL really didn't ask a single question about the Naniwa controversy in which case ugh TL, ugh) get treated as if they're doing us all a great favour by doing their job.
The lack of any remotely investigative journalism in SC2 reporting is really really bad. Why would they need to? GOMTV already released an announcement regarding the situation soon after it happened here.
Because that statement didn't address half of the issues with the incident including the main point that they and MLG had repeatedly informed him that he won a code S seed and their statement completely contradicts that despite lots of evidence to the contrary?
I mean did you not read through that thread and the other threads at the time or something? The fact they haven't even tried to explain these issues is the reason why I and probably a few other people have stopped paying for and watching GOM events. You don't have to agree with my stance but please don't insult my intelligence by implying I don't have a reason to be heavily disappointed in this interview.
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On January 11 2012 07:26 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 07:24 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 07:18 Talin wrote:I'm very disappointed with the approach GOM is taking. I get that they want global exposure and foreign viewers, but they should probably be thinking a little more about their status as a respectable competition. They come off sounding like a western-based organization at this point, and that is far from being a compliment. On January 11 2012 07:15 TedJustice wrote:
More sponsors = More money = More eSports for you to enjoy. Then again, Quality > Quantity. GOM do the least inviting of any major eSports league. Strange, I could've sworn I've been watching at least two that don't do ANY inviting, even though at this point we're now only left with one.
MLG - Invites 4 Koreans.
IEM - Invites 4 Koreans.
Dreamhack - Invites virtually everyone.
IPL - Invited most of their seeded players for IPL 3.
NASL - Almost all players invited.
Assembly - Invites almost all their players.
By contrast GSL invites only two foreigners to Code S.
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On January 11 2012 04:20 Waxangel wrote:
That last question and answer. I've never been so owned.
Your HSC IV preview and the actual results ?
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On January 11 2012 07:39 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 07:26 Talin wrote:On January 11 2012 07:24 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 07:18 Talin wrote:I'm very disappointed with the approach GOM is taking. I get that they want global exposure and foreign viewers, but they should probably be thinking a little more about their status as a respectable competition. They come off sounding like a western-based organization at this point, and that is far from being a compliment. On January 11 2012 07:15 TedJustice wrote:
More sponsors = More money = More eSports for you to enjoy. Then again, Quality > Quantity. GOM do the least inviting of any major eSports league. Strange, I could've sworn I've been watching at least two that don't do ANY inviting, even though at this point we're now only left with one. MLG - Invites 4 Koreans. IEM - Invites 4 Koreans. Dreamhack - Invites virtually everyone. IPL - Invited most of their seeded players for IPL 3. NASL - Almost all players invited. Assembly - Invites almost all their players. By contrast GSL invites only two foreigners to Code S.
Those are not the only major eSports leagues.
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On January 11 2012 07:40 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 07:39 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 07:26 Talin wrote:On January 11 2012 07:24 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 07:18 Talin wrote:I'm very disappointed with the approach GOM is taking. I get that they want global exposure and foreign viewers, but they should probably be thinking a little more about their status as a respectable competition. They come off sounding like a western-based organization at this point, and that is far from being a compliment. On January 11 2012 07:15 TedJustice wrote:
More sponsors = More money = More eSports for you to enjoy. Then again, Quality > Quantity. GOM do the least inviting of any major eSports league. Strange, I could've sworn I've been watching at least two that don't do ANY inviting, even though at this point we're now only left with one. MLG - Invites 4 Koreans. IEM - Invites 4 Koreans. Dreamhack - Invites virtually everyone. IPL - Invited most of their seeded players for IPL 3. NASL - Almost all players invited. Assembly - Invites almost all their players. By contrast GSL invites only two foreigners to Code S. Those are not the only major eSports leagues.
Then stop messing about and tell me some more.
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Wow Mr Chae hitting it out of the park here. To me the gom people are great ambassadors for South Korea.
Up to now pretty much every move they make seems to be very reasonable; BO1 was my number 1 nitpick also.
I wish GSL a great 2012!
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True words Mr. Chae. ForGG definitely hasn't proven himself. W^_^
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We plan to switch from the full-league format from second half 2011 into a double elimination tournament format. The full league had an advantage in that many teams could appear often, but individual matches lacked excitement, and teams that employed too many rookie players which decreased the entertainment value of the tournament.
Everyone thank the IM Coach.
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I personally would prefer GSTL to be Pro League format and not Winners League but I know I'm in a minority with that opinion.
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On January 11 2012 07:50 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +We plan to switch from the full-league format from second half 2011 into a double elimination tournament format. The full league had an advantage in that many teams could appear often, but individual matches lacked excitement, and teams that employed too many rookie players which decreased the entertainment value of the tournament.
Everyone thank the IM Coach.
why o.o?
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World Championship please!!!! great interview
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On January 11 2012 07:53 WhiteWolfx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 07:50 Fionn wrote:We plan to switch from the full-league format from second half 2011 into a double elimination tournament format. The full league had an advantage in that many teams could appear often, but individual matches lacked excitement, and teams that employed too many rookie players which decreased the entertainment value of the tournament.
Everyone thank the IM Coach. why o.o?
IM lost because of their use of rookie players, generally
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On January 11 2012 07:53 WhiteWolfx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 07:50 Fionn wrote:We plan to switch from the full-league format from second half 2011 into a double elimination tournament format. The full league had an advantage in that many teams could appear often, but individual matches lacked excitement, and teams that employed too many rookie players which decreased the entertainment value of the tournament.
Everyone thank the IM Coach. why o.o?
Qxc all kill, you've probably heard of it
Joke aside, it's probably better for excitement, but I still prefer the pool format
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Good interview and the last answer was really good. Hopefully they will give Naniwa a shot at Code S in the future too. 
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Mr.Chae is the man ^_^
I liked all the answers he gave and hope for a bigger, better, and more successful 2012 for gom.
On January 11 2012 06:39 Clbull wrote:The real burning questions I would have asked Mr. Chae:+ Show Spoiler +1. Why can't you just admit that NaNiwa had been punished through the revoking of his Code S seed for probe rushing a meaningless game? Your alternative explanation that he had no seed in the first place seemed a bit crazy because it broke the agreement of the League Exchange Program, and seemed more like an insult to the first (and only) non-Korean that would have earned a seed through the system.
2. Any plans to provide restreams of the GSL for Western audiences? Us Europeans are a bit pissed off with being required to watch in late morning and I'm sure a lot of Americans are pissed off with having to watch extremely early morning?
3. Any plans to improve the GSL format some more? In particular Code A where your odds of being eliminated from the GSL depend on the opponent you face (In the case of NaNiwa, he faced Lucky (known to have near unstoppable ZvP).... TWICE IN A ROW each time he did earn a Code A seed.) I feel a Ro48 group stage is a necessity to actually more fairly determine who should remain in the GSL..
4. Any plans to ditch GOM Player as a requirement for HQ streaming? You know..... because Twitch TV is more convenient, has a better SQ stream, lets you place a paywall on certain qualities, doesn't require you to run external software to view and is more popular outside of South Korea. Oh and also because every other major tournament uses a browser based flash livestream.
5. In response to the NASL finally promising free VODs in Season 3 and with successful leagues such as Major League Gaming, IGN Pro League, Dreamhack, WCG, ESWC etc offering free ad supported videos on demand. Will GOMTV finally do what every other major tournament has done and remove the paywall from VODs?
1) Beating a dead horse.
2) VODs.
3) Like the idea. [Would have been a good question]
4) GOMtv ditching the GOM player. Doesn't seem likely. [Could be interesting but I think the answer would be the expected one]
5) You get free VODs if you pay for the HQ stream. Most of the events you listed don't directly make money from the VODs so that is why they are offered for free. GOM does. [seems that way to me]
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On January 11 2012 07:39 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 07:26 Talin wrote:On January 11 2012 07:24 Seraphone wrote:On January 11 2012 07:18 Talin wrote:I'm very disappointed with the approach GOM is taking. I get that they want global exposure and foreign viewers, but they should probably be thinking a little more about their status as a respectable competition. They come off sounding like a western-based organization at this point, and that is far from being a compliment. On January 11 2012 07:15 TedJustice wrote:
More sponsors = More money = More eSports for you to enjoy. Then again, Quality > Quantity. GOM do the least inviting of any major eSports league. Strange, I could've sworn I've been watching at least two that don't do ANY inviting, even though at this point we're now only left with one. MLG - Invites 4 Koreans. IEM - Invites 4 Koreans. Dreamhack - Invites virtually everyone. IPL - Invited most of their seeded players for IPL 3. NASL - Almost all players invited. Assembly - Invites almost all their players. By contrast GSL invites only two foreigners to Code S.
and don't you agree that a league where everyone has a chance to qualify for nearly all the spots is way better in sporting way? I don't like tournaments where nearly every spots are given away per invite under that regard because it allways a subjective oppinion who is worthy to be invited. So i really like the way the GSL works in that regard. Everyone has the chance to qualify under the same circumstances (no lag cause it's offline, GOM let's you even live in their house for free!). So if you are good enough, you will qualify and if not you won't. It's very fair to everyone. And the argument that you have to commit so much in time by staying in korea... well you only have to stay there for 1 day of the qualifier at the start, after that you know if you are qualified, then you have to stay for code a. But since the matches are sheduled a long time before they are played, I think it's ok for a pro gamer.
And I understand why not so many foreigners have taken the shot for the GSL until now. It's not the fact, that they don't want to commit a lot of time to a stay in korea, it's very much more, that they see, that they only have very little chances to succeed.
And you should also look what a guranteed Code S spot means. It means guranteed 1k bucks. You can lose all your games and get 1k $ for that. There is no tournament out there, where you have a situation like this. So even the 2 invite slots are very questionable in my oppinion.
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