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Interview: GSL Director Mr.Chae Jung Won - Page 11

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Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
January 11 2012 12:08 GMT
#201
On January 11 2012 11:11 Swedisc wrote:
I threw a frisbee around with Mr. Chae on the beach in Atlantic City during IPL3. He's the best!


Haha that was you?
http://i.imgur.com/2j5c1.jpg <- you'll like that

Awesome interview, really really enjoyed reading this! Thanks Wax! I'll get a picture of Mr. Chae next week

TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 13:02:44
January 11 2012 13:01 GMT
#202
On January 11 2012 20:35 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 18:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 11 2012 05:16 iky43210 wrote:
On January 11 2012 04:57 JustPassingBy wrote:
Hm, I don't really understand Mr. Chae's answer to the decrease of prize money.

I know the amount of games per league has increased, but that only means that the league demands the players to show us more games for the increased costs (which I am sure the players are happy to do).
However, it does not change the fact that I now pay gom 50% more per season, while they do not forward not even close to that percentage of money more to the players participating in the league.


its already been calculated at some posts before, you're paying the same $$ for the same amount of games

sure, there's less total leagues but more games per league, so it turns out to be about just the same amount of games total


please read my post, I am complaining that I pay much more to gom (increase by 50%), however gom does not pay that much more to the players.


you're not paying much more to gom, you're paying the exact same amount per game...


The "paying more" was meant to be per season, and not per game.

okay, let me put it that way: I get to see more games per season, so I pay more per season. Fine.
The players play more games per season, so why don't they get more prize money per season?
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
January 11 2012 13:19 GMT
#203
On January 11 2012 18:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 05:16 iky43210 wrote:
On January 11 2012 04:57 JustPassingBy wrote:
Hm, I don't really understand Mr. Chae's answer to the decrease of prize money.

I know the amount of games per league has increased, but that only means that the league demands the players to show us more games for the increased costs (which I am sure the players are happy to do).
However, it does not change the fact that I now pay gom 50% more per season, while they do not forward not even close to that percentage of money more to the players participating in the league.


its already been calculated at some posts before, you're paying the same $$ for the same amount of games

sure, there's less total leagues but more games per league, so it turns out to be about just the same amount of games total


please read my post, I am complaining that I pay much more to gom (increase by 50%), however gom does not pay that much more to the players.


Since when did it become GOM's obligation to ensure that players are adequately compensated? Did I miss something?
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
January 11 2012 13:33 GMT
#204
On January 11 2012 14:23 red4ce wrote:
Woohoo the World Championship is coming back! Team USA will kick Korean butt this time around.


LOL ! USA USA USA i guess?
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
January 11 2012 13:50 GMT
#205
Very insightful questions and I felt his answers were quite thoughtout and responsive. Glad to see this sort of interview and the questions not being PR dodged with answers that don't really say anything. Over all this was enlightening and a good read. Thanks TL!

btw that last question made me smile, loved the answer
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
January 11 2012 13:59 GMT
#206
On January 11 2012 22:33 werynais wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 14:23 red4ce wrote:
Woohoo the World Championship is coming back! Team USA will kick Korean butt this time around.


LOL ! USA USA USA i guess?

Seriously: Sweden, Canada and Ukraine. Then USA. Or China. Then France and maybe Germany/Poland?
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 14:04:13
January 11 2012 14:00 GMT
#207
On January 11 2012 22:01 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:35 iky43210 wrote:
On January 11 2012 18:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 11 2012 05:16 iky43210 wrote:
On January 11 2012 04:57 JustPassingBy wrote:
Hm, I don't really understand Mr. Chae's answer to the decrease of prize money.

I know the amount of games per league has increased, but that only means that the league demands the players to show us more games for the increased costs (which I am sure the players are happy to do).
However, it does not change the fact that I now pay gom 50% more per season, while they do not forward not even close to that percentage of money more to the players participating in the league.


its already been calculated at some posts before, you're paying the same $$ for the same amount of games

sure, there's less total leagues but more games per league, so it turns out to be about just the same amount of games total


please read my post, I am complaining that I pay much more to gom (increase by 50%), however gom does not pay that much more to the players.


you're not paying much more to gom, you're paying the exact same amount per game...


The "paying more" was meant to be per season, and not per game.

okay, let me put it that way: I get to see more games per season, so I pay more per season. Fine.
The players play more games per season, so why don't they get more prize money per season?


gom ran out of funds? didn't feel it was necessary to be the sole supporter for pro players? wants to be greedy? who knows. The prizepool is still drastically more than other tournaments out there, and I see no reason why GSL have to pay so much better than other tourney organizers.

what should matter to us is the quality of the game and service we paid for
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
January 11 2012 15:17 GMT
#208
So the interview pretty much just shat all over the worries fans and detractors had for the GSL.

good to hear everything is going well.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 15:29:58
January 11 2012 15:28 GMT
#209
Good interview, wish chae would have been asked what will happen when goms exclusive sc2 broadcast rights expire this year. Didn't the prize pool improve for code a this season? Also gsl prize money is still higher than almost every foreign competition. First place in OSL one and a half years after it started was a lot lower than what gsl is atm. Maybe sc2 in korea is starting to be big enough that pro players don't have to rely on gsl prize money anymore.

Really looking forward to gstl, and the thought of another WC gives me nerdchills already.
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
January 11 2012 15:40 GMT
#210
Last question was well put, like his stance on the elephant.
jaydee81
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany119 Posts
January 11 2012 17:04 GMT
#211
Thanks, nice interview!
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
January 11 2012 17:05 GMT
#212
Last question, and last answer... Thank you, Mr Chae, I hope people read this and give us a break now
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 11 2012 17:26 GMT
#213
On January 12 2012 00:28 Lorch wrote:
Good interview, wish chae would have been asked what will happen when goms exclusive sc2 broadcast rights expire this year. Didn't the prize pool improve for code a this season? Also gsl prize money is still higher than almost every foreign competition. First place in OSL one and a half years after it started was a lot lower than what gsl is atm. Maybe sc2 in korea is starting to be big enough that pro players don't have to rely on gsl prize money anymore.

Really looking forward to gstl, and the thought of another WC gives me nerdchills already.


Im pretty sure that the biggest souce of income for GSL is foreign subscriptions and sponsors. I think sc2 fanbase is growing faster outside of korea than inside, but i could be wrong and I dont have any stats to back that up
But it be very interesting to see exactly how many subscribers GSL has now. Havent found any info or numbers, have anyone else?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 11 2012 18:27 GMT
#214
On January 11 2012 23:00 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 22:01 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:35 iky43210 wrote:
On January 11 2012 18:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 11 2012 05:16 iky43210 wrote:
On January 11 2012 04:57 JustPassingBy wrote:
Hm, I don't really understand Mr. Chae's answer to the decrease of prize money.

I know the amount of games per league has increased, but that only means that the league demands the players to show us more games for the increased costs (which I am sure the players are happy to do).
However, it does not change the fact that I now pay gom 50% more per season, while they do not forward not even close to that percentage of money more to the players participating in the league.


its already been calculated at some posts before, you're paying the same $$ for the same amount of games

sure, there's less total leagues but more games per league, so it turns out to be about just the same amount of games total


please read my post, I am complaining that I pay much more to gom (increase by 50%), however gom does not pay that much more to the players.


you're not paying much more to gom, you're paying the exact same amount per game...


The "paying more" was meant to be per season, and not per game.

okay, let me put it that way: I get to see more games per season, so I pay more per season. Fine.
The players play more games per season, so why don't they get more prize money per season?


gom ran out of funds? didn't feel it was necessary to be the sole supporter for pro players? wants to be greedy? who knows. The prizepool is still drastically more than other tournaments out there, and I see no reason why GSL have to pay so much better than other tourney organizers.

what should matter to us is the quality of the game and service we paid for


Well, Mr. Chae's answer does not sound as if they were having financial troubles. And I agree, GSL is still worth every penny. However, GSL is clearly being a bit greedy here and sometimes you just got to call a spade a spade.
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
January 11 2012 19:05 GMT
#215
On January 11 2012 04:21 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Excellent read, thank you for the translation.
Mr.Chae makes it very clear on why they do things and Im really glad we arent left out in the dark.
He totally nailed the last question


Hell yeah sick answer. Thx for sharing so much with foreigners : )
Nestea fightingg ! DRG fightingggg !! Sen fightinggg ! July fighting ! SoO fighting !
Zren89
Profile Joined February 2011
United States131 Posts
January 11 2012 19:15 GMT
#216
I love the transparency that Gom is showing, it seems a far cry from the earliest days of KESPA, and I believe that this points to a much better partnership and mode of cooperation within the "Global SCII scene" as opposed to an SK-centric system ala BW.

Can't wait till I can buy my yearly pass! All the foreigner hopefuls are going to be interesting to watch.
you can't get mad at basketball cause you think kobe bryant is a horrible person. you don't see basketball forums with "kobe bryant is killing basketball!". it doesn't work like that, how the SC2 community made that connection is beyond me. ~Yoduh
DonaldLee
Profile Joined August 2010
586 Posts
January 12 2012 00:33 GMT
#217
Love Mr. Chae!

Hope they find room for the World Championships, if only for Team Korea vs. the World again. Hands down my favorite event of SC2 so far, though being at Blizzcon for GSL October finals was pretty sweet, too
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 00:48:49
January 12 2012 00:48 GMT
#218
Why SC2 pros have less time to practice than BW pros?

I don't understand his answer to the last question.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Acer1791
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany182 Posts
January 12 2012 01:20 GMT
#219
On January 12 2012 09:48 fabiano wrote:
Why SC2 pros have less time to practice than BW pros?

I don't understand his answer to the last question.


i guess he thinks its normal for them to practice a lot and with success
so they will learn pretty fast and be pretty good
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
January 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#220
On January 11 2012 04:20 Waxangel wrote:
That last question and answer. I've never been so owned.

Rofl.

Out of curiosity, did the editorial staff consider asking him about the Naniwa incident? If yes, was the subject broached with Mr Chae or his minders prior to the interview? If so, was it put in the 'don't ask' basket?
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