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On January 11 2012 20:35 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 18:00 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 11 2012 05:16 iky43210 wrote:On January 11 2012 04:57 JustPassingBy wrote: Hm, I don't really understand Mr. Chae's answer to the decrease of prize money.
I know the amount of games per league has increased, but that only means that the league demands the players to show us more games for the increased costs (which I am sure the players are happy to do). However, it does not change the fact that I now pay gom 50% more per season, while they do not forward not even close to that percentage of money more to the players participating in the league. its already been calculated at some posts before, you're paying the same $$ for the same amount of games sure, there's less total leagues but more games per league, so it turns out to be about just the same amount of games total please read my post, I am complaining that I pay much more to gom (increase by 50%), however gom does not pay that much more to the players. you're not paying much more to gom, you're paying the exact same amount per game...
The "paying more" was meant to be per season, and not per game.
okay, let me put it that way: I get to see more games per season, so I pay more per season. Fine. The players play more games per season, so why don't they get more prize money per season?
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On January 11 2012 18:00 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 05:16 iky43210 wrote:On January 11 2012 04:57 JustPassingBy wrote: Hm, I don't really understand Mr. Chae's answer to the decrease of prize money.
I know the amount of games per league has increased, but that only means that the league demands the players to show us more games for the increased costs (which I am sure the players are happy to do). However, it does not change the fact that I now pay gom 50% more per season, while they do not forward not even close to that percentage of money more to the players participating in the league. its already been calculated at some posts before, you're paying the same $$ for the same amount of games sure, there's less total leagues but more games per league, so it turns out to be about just the same amount of games total please read my post, I am complaining that I pay much more to gom (increase by 50%), however gom does not pay that much more to the players.
Since when did it become GOM's obligation to ensure that players are adequately compensated? Did I miss something?
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On January 11 2012 14:23 red4ce wrote: Woohoo the World Championship is coming back! Team USA will kick Korean butt this time around.
LOL ! USA USA USA i guess?
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Very insightful questions and I felt his answers were quite thoughtout and responsive. Glad to see this sort of interview and the questions not being PR dodged with answers that don't really say anything. Over all this was enlightening and a good read. Thanks TL!
btw that last question made me smile, loved the answer
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On January 11 2012 22:33 werynais wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 14:23 red4ce wrote: Woohoo the World Championship is coming back! Team USA will kick Korean butt this time around. LOL ! USA USA USA i guess? Seriously: Sweden, Canada and Ukraine. Then USA. Or China. Then France and maybe Germany/Poland?
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On January 11 2012 22:01 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 20:35 iky43210 wrote:On January 11 2012 18:00 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 11 2012 05:16 iky43210 wrote:On January 11 2012 04:57 JustPassingBy wrote: Hm, I don't really understand Mr. Chae's answer to the decrease of prize money.
I know the amount of games per league has increased, but that only means that the league demands the players to show us more games for the increased costs (which I am sure the players are happy to do). However, it does not change the fact that I now pay gom 50% more per season, while they do not forward not even close to that percentage of money more to the players participating in the league. its already been calculated at some posts before, you're paying the same $$ for the same amount of games sure, there's less total leagues but more games per league, so it turns out to be about just the same amount of games total please read my post, I am complaining that I pay much more to gom (increase by 50%), however gom does not pay that much more to the players. you're not paying much more to gom, you're paying the exact same amount per game... The "paying more" was meant to be per season, and not per game. okay, let me put it that way: I get to see more games per season, so I pay more per season. Fine. The players play more games per season, so why don't they get more prize money per season?
gom ran out of funds? didn't feel it was necessary to be the sole supporter for pro players? wants to be greedy? who knows. The prizepool is still drastically more than other tournaments out there, and I see no reason why GSL have to pay so much better than other tourney organizers.
what should matter to us is the quality of the game and service we paid for
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So the interview pretty much just shat all over the worries fans and detractors had for the GSL.
good to hear everything is going well.
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Good interview, wish chae would have been asked what will happen when goms exclusive sc2 broadcast rights expire this year. Didn't the prize pool improve for code a this season? Also gsl prize money is still higher than almost every foreign competition. First place in OSL one and a half years after it started was a lot lower than what gsl is atm. Maybe sc2 in korea is starting to be big enough that pro players don't have to rely on gsl prize money anymore.
Really looking forward to gstl, and the thought of another WC gives me nerdchills already.
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Last question was well put, like his stance on the elephant.
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Last question, and last answer... Thank you, Mr Chae, I hope people read this and give us a break now
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On January 12 2012 00:28 Lorch wrote: Good interview, wish chae would have been asked what will happen when goms exclusive sc2 broadcast rights expire this year. Didn't the prize pool improve for code a this season? Also gsl prize money is still higher than almost every foreign competition. First place in OSL one and a half years after it started was a lot lower than what gsl is atm. Maybe sc2 in korea is starting to be big enough that pro players don't have to rely on gsl prize money anymore.
Really looking forward to gstl, and the thought of another WC gives me nerdchills already.
Im pretty sure that the biggest souce of income for GSL is foreign subscriptions and sponsors. I think sc2 fanbase is growing faster outside of korea than inside, but i could be wrong and I dont have any stats to back that up But it be very interesting to see exactly how many subscribers GSL has now. Havent found any info or numbers, have anyone else?
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On January 11 2012 23:00 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 22:01 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 11 2012 20:35 iky43210 wrote:On January 11 2012 18:00 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 11 2012 05:16 iky43210 wrote:On January 11 2012 04:57 JustPassingBy wrote: Hm, I don't really understand Mr. Chae's answer to the decrease of prize money.
I know the amount of games per league has increased, but that only means that the league demands the players to show us more games for the increased costs (which I am sure the players are happy to do). However, it does not change the fact that I now pay gom 50% more per season, while they do not forward not even close to that percentage of money more to the players participating in the league. its already been calculated at some posts before, you're paying the same $$ for the same amount of games sure, there's less total leagues but more games per league, so it turns out to be about just the same amount of games total please read my post, I am complaining that I pay much more to gom (increase by 50%), however gom does not pay that much more to the players. you're not paying much more to gom, you're paying the exact same amount per game... The "paying more" was meant to be per season, and not per game. okay, let me put it that way: I get to see more games per season, so I pay more per season. Fine. The players play more games per season, so why don't they get more prize money per season? gom ran out of funds? didn't feel it was necessary to be the sole supporter for pro players? wants to be greedy? who knows. The prizepool is still drastically more than other tournaments out there, and I see no reason why GSL have to pay so much better than other tourney organizers. what should matter to us is the quality of the game and service we paid for
Well, Mr. Chae's answer does not sound as if they were having financial troubles. And I agree, GSL is still worth every penny. However, GSL is clearly being a bit greedy here and sometimes you just got to call a spade a spade.
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On January 11 2012 04:21 Apollo_Shards wrote: Excellent read, thank you for the translation. Mr.Chae makes it very clear on why they do things and Im really glad we arent left out in the dark. He totally nailed the last question
Hell yeah sick answer. Thx for sharing so much with foreigners : )
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I love the transparency that Gom is showing, it seems a far cry from the earliest days of KESPA, and I believe that this points to a much better partnership and mode of cooperation within the "Global SCII scene" as opposed to an SK-centric system ala BW.
Can't wait till I can buy my yearly pass! All the foreigner hopefuls are going to be interesting to watch.
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Love Mr. Chae!
Hope they find room for the World Championships, if only for Team Korea vs. the World again. Hands down my favorite event of SC2 so far, though being at Blizzcon for GSL October finals was pretty sweet, too
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Why SC2 pros have less time to practice than BW pros?
I don't understand his answer to the last question.
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On January 12 2012 09:48 fabiano wrote: Why SC2 pros have less time to practice than BW pros?
I don't understand his answer to the last question.
i guess he thinks its normal for them to practice a lot and with success so they will learn pretty fast and be pretty good
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On January 11 2012 04:20 Waxangel wrote: That last question and answer. I've never been so owned. Rofl.
Out of curiosity, did the editorial staff consider asking him about the Naniwa incident? If yes, was the subject broached with Mr Chae or his minders prior to the interview? If so, was it put in the 'don't ask' basket?
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