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Top Broodwar Pros swapping to Starcraft 2? - Page 16

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gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 17:28:26
January 09 2012 17:24 GMT
#301
I dont see any A team bw pro with solid results that is not playing in the proleague at the moment...
Looks like another attempt to recycle an old chestnut.
umsplay
Profile Joined April 2010
29 Posts
January 09 2012 17:29 GMT
#302
I hope that the biggest BW players do not join sc2. I want to remember Jeadong and Flash as greatest BW player not some sc2 code B level.Also sc2 dosent require as much skill as BW!

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See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
January 09 2012 17:31 GMT
#303
On January 10 2012 02:29 umsplay wrote:
Also sc2 dosent require as much skill as BW!


Don't even come into this house with that bullshit.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
January 09 2012 18:03 GMT
#304
What I really want to know is will Kespa be in charge of sc2. There are some great things that could be done (maps, team balance, sponsors...)
Brood War is forever
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
January 09 2012 18:06 GMT
#305
On January 09 2012 23:46 tree.hugger wrote:
It's as if we need one of these threads every month or so, and everyone makes the exact same posts in them. You have the people saying "I'm taking this with a grain of salt", the people saying "They're going to destroy everyone!" and then the people who say "No they're not!". Of course finally, a bunch of people drop in to say "OMG I hope Flash and Jaedong switch!!!"

I'm quickly losing hope that these threads can produce anything useful or original, but whatever, I guess there's no harm in it.


No, just lock them dude. these threads are just intellectual vomit, with tons of people bickering about stuff that neither side has any real facts on, and then the occasional reference to that other awful elephant thread.

that's what I think anyway >_>
DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
January 09 2012 18:06 GMT
#306
thats why soO sucks so hard right now ?^^
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
January 09 2012 18:12 GMT
#307
On January 10 2012 03:06 DeadBull wrote:
thats why soO sucks so hard right now ?^^


haha yea thats uh thats it, you've really pulled back the curtain on that one haha *shuffles nervously*
Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
January 09 2012 18:13 GMT
#308
On January 10 2012 02:29 umsplay wrote:
I hope that the biggest BW players do not join sc2. I want to remember Jeadong and Flash as greatest BW player not some sc2 code B level.Also sc2 dosent require as much skill as BW!

User was warned for this post



why was he warned? everybody got right to an opinion?


on the other hand..
When I look at Julyzerg and I think back to Broodwar Im not even sure anymore that the top players from BW will dominate when they switch over..I mean sure.. I suppose there will be some new innovative builds and strats but I dunno guys...I mean July clearly got problems with the Sc2, his decisions when charging in with lings vs marines in a corner with 2 medivacs is just so fail..sure he was not at top at the last years but still..it's a former champion from 08.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
January 09 2012 18:16 GMT
#309
On January 10 2012 03:13 Gackt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 02:29 umsplay wrote:
I hope that the biggest BW players do not join sc2. I want to remember Jeadong and Flash as greatest BW player not some sc2 code B level.Also sc2 dosent require as much skill as BW!

User was warned for this post



why was he warned? everybody got right to an opinion?


on the other hand..
When I look at Julyzerg and I think back to Broodwar Im not even sure anymore that the top players from BW will dominate when they switch over..I mean sure.. I suppose there will be some new innovative builds and strats but I dunno guys...I mean July clearly got problems with the Sc2, his decisions when charging in with lings vs marines in a corner with 2 medivacs is just so fail..sure he was not at top at the last years but still..it's a former champion from 08.


Obvious attempt to stir up a BW vs SC2 flame war would be my guess.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 09 2012 18:17 GMT
#310
On January 10 2012 03:13 Gackt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 02:29 umsplay wrote:
I hope that the biggest BW players do not join sc2. I want to remember Jeadong and Flash as greatest BW player not some sc2 code B level.Also sc2 dosent require as much skill as BW!

User was warned for this post



why was he warned? everybody got right to an opinion?


on the other hand..
When I look at Julyzerg and I think back to Broodwar Im not even sure anymore that the top players from BW will dominate when they switch over..I mean sure.. I suppose there will be some new innovative builds and strats but I dunno guys...I mean July clearly got problems with the Sc2, his decisions when charging in with lings vs marines in a corner with 2 medivacs is just so fail..sure he was not at top at the last years but still..it's a former champion from 08.

Yeah 2008....by 2010 when he switched over he was terrible. (and he still made to a gsl final when no Zerg was winning)
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
January 09 2012 18:21 GMT
#311
On January 10 2012 03:17 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 03:13 Gackt_ wrote:
On January 10 2012 02:29 umsplay wrote:
I hope that the biggest BW players do not join sc2. I want to remember Jeadong and Flash as greatest BW player not some sc2 code B level.Also sc2 dosent require as much skill as BW!

User was warned for this post



why was he warned? everybody got right to an opinion?


on the other hand..
When I look at Julyzerg and I think back to Broodwar Im not even sure anymore that the top players from BW will dominate when they switch over..I mean sure.. I suppose there will be some new innovative builds and strats but I dunno guys...I mean July clearly got problems with the Sc2, his decisions when charging in with lings vs marines in a corner with 2 medivacs is just so fail..sure he was not at top at the last years but still..it's a former champion from 08.

Yeah 2008....by 2010 when he switched over he was terrible. (and he still made to a gsl final when no Zerg was winning)


He made the GSL by all inning almost every single game he played, and if you haven't noticed he hasn't really done anything else after that because people realized all he can do now is all in. Getting to one finals once and then getting demolished doesn't mean anything, I mean inca made it to a finals too.
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Mjolnir
Profile Joined January 2009
912 Posts
January 09 2012 18:23 GMT
#312
On January 10 2012 02:31 See.Blue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 02:29 umsplay wrote:
Also sc2 dosent require as much skill as BW!


Don't even come into this house with that bullshit.


Why? He isn't wrong. You can find a slew of interviews where pros say the same thing.

But on topic, I think it would be cool to see some BW elites come over to SC2 for a couple of reasons. 1) to mix things up and see how the current SC2 players fare, 2) to see if the BW pros can transfer their skills to SC2 - because the races play very differently (i.e. I think Flash's current Terran style would be more suited to SC2 Zerg or Protoss than Terran). 3) to see if they're still the best and/or so freaking good in general that they dominate a new game as well.

Would be cool I think; but I've gotta admit, I'll feel bad for BW and the old scene.

GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 18:25:48
January 09 2012 18:24 GMT
#313
july fluked his way to that osl victory in 2008 out of sheer luck, by having the easiest bracket in the history of the osl (rock, backho and best, seriously?)

pretty sure any zerg at the time would have devoured through that.
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QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
January 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#314
This should be exciting!
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
January 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#315
On January 09 2012 13:56 BasilForSkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 13:50 awwnuts07 wrote:
Unless it's the BW top dogs, I can't really say I'm super interested.


Are you serious? These guys are on level or better than people like MVP or ForGG.

If you're not interested for that... Wow.

they were a level above MVP when MVP was playing BW sure, but then MVP started getting really good at SC2 to the point he's at now,
people need to stop Over estimating how good they are going to be when they switch, it's not like all current sc2 players are going to disappear, but the Bar will certainly be raised for the lower tier of pros
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#316
On January 10 2012 03:21 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 03:17 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 10 2012 03:13 Gackt_ wrote:
On January 10 2012 02:29 umsplay wrote:
I hope that the biggest BW players do not join sc2. I want to remember Jeadong and Flash as greatest BW player not some sc2 code B level.Also sc2 dosent require as much skill as BW!

User was warned for this post



why was he warned? everybody got right to an opinion?


on the other hand..
When I look at Julyzerg and I think back to Broodwar Im not even sure anymore that the top players from BW will dominate when they switch over..I mean sure.. I suppose there will be some new innovative builds and strats but I dunno guys...I mean July clearly got problems with the Sc2, his decisions when charging in with lings vs marines in a corner with 2 medivacs is just so fail..sure he was not at top at the last years but still..it's a former champion from 08.

Yeah 2008....by 2010 when he switched over he was terrible. (and he still made to a gsl final when no Zerg was winning)


He made the GSL by all inning almost every single game he played, and if you haven't noticed he hasn't really done anything else after that because people realized all he can do now is all in. Getting to one finals once and then getting demolished doesn't mean anything, I mean inca made it to a finals too.

Ehh I guess, it worked though. My point was he was terrible in bw when he switched over. It's amazing how people still can't grasp that
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 09 2012 18:28 GMT
#317
Worst case scenario is if KeSPA makes Proleague do a full switch into SC2 without incorporating any existing SC2 players and teams. This would alienate a lot of BW and SC2 fans, as not all Korean BW watchers will follow the switch and some of the SC2 fans may not follow it too much if their current favorite players or teams aren't represented.

However, I think the best case scenario is if they open up a new, separate SC2 league (individual or team) that incorporates existing SC2 players and teams in addition with some BW players and teams. The BW leagues would still exist since hopefully OGN will have a separate broadcast schedule for the SC2 leagues.

Handled correctly, this can grow the scene tremendously without too much risk of doing damage. Handled incorrectly, I fear that this may be very destructive to both scenes.
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Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
January 09 2012 18:29 GMT
#318
You guys should to suggest opinion some pro players or people who knows pro bw. Huk example who know people he said couple words in Providence. One time I asked ForGG on stream when bw players will come, he also know something for sure, but he said just " dont know"



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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 09 2012 18:38 GMT
#319
On January 10 2012 03:24 GTR wrote:
july fluked his way to that osl victory in 2008 out of sheer luck, by having the easiest bracket in the history of the osl (rock, backho and best, seriously?)

pretty sure any zerg at the time would have devoured through that.

Ah yes, best in 2008 pvz. Ah....yes..........
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
January 09 2012 18:51 GMT
#320
if ogn/mbc start doing sc2.....i feel sorry for gom

unless they do no english, then gom is still safe in foreign market.

maybe i'm talking out of my ass, how much exposure does GOM leagues have compared to ogn/mbc?
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