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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
January 09 2012 18:54 GMT
#321
On January 10 2012 03:51 jinorazi wrote:
if ogn/mbc start doing sc2.....i feel sorry for gom

unless they do no english, then gom is still safe in foreign market.

maybe i'm talking out of my ass, how much exposure does GOM leagues have compared to ogn/mbc?


Well as far as I know GOM has exclusive tournament/broadcast rights for SC2 in korea so I think they're fine for a while still.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
January 09 2012 18:55 GMT
#322
On January 10 2012 01:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 01:32 TheResidentEvil wrote:
It doesnt matter. SC2 is a different game and it will take awhile to acclimate. These pros arent going to come over to sc2 and dominate. Its not going to happen. Well, maybe if they all play terran they will


you will be proven wrong and people like me who know so will rub it in in the most annyoing way...

by bumping the elephant in the room article.

Do you feel the need to say the same thing every time this comes up?

It's like you feel threatened or something...
ePBuckets
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada207 Posts
January 09 2012 18:57 GMT
#323
oh wierd..

KeSPA seperate league/tournies from the rest..

i'd rather those KeSPA players be allowed into our tournies, and our players into a KeSPA league.

lame already and we arent even there yet!
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
January 09 2012 18:57 GMT
#324
On January 10 2012 03:51 jinorazi wrote:
if ogn/mbc start doing sc2.....i feel sorry for gom

unless they do no english, then gom is still safe in foreign market.

maybe i'm talking out of my ass, how much exposure does GOM leagues have compared to ogn/mbc?

mbc is shut down, and ogn belongs to CJ as well as GOM does as far as I have read in this thread. So they dont mean trouble for Gom.
This is our town, scrub
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1708 Posts
January 09 2012 19:52 GMT
#325
One factor- has anyone seen how well the BroodWar Proleague is doing this season? Answer is very well.
EleGant[AoV]
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 09 2012 20:01 GMT
#326
On January 10 2012 04:52 ImbaTosS wrote:
One factor- has anyone seen how well the BroodWar Proleague is doing this season? Answer is very well.


According to Milki's its doing like 1/3rd the viewership that it had in 2007 and isn't getting that many. I don't want bw to die but it seems all the people in korea who actually can find stuff out and I don't see why fxoboss would lie either and with milkis saying the same thing well doesn't look good.

I enjoy both bw/sc2 and looks like this might be the last of bw unless milkis/boss are just playing a joke which again I highly doubt.
When I think of something else, something will go here
cscarfo1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States307 Posts
January 09 2012 20:20 GMT
#327
It's actually so interesting to see the skill gap between BW and SC2. Hyun just rarely came into the scene on TSL, even though he probably was practicing SC2 for a while. But yet, he gets into Code A through preliminaries his first or one of his first times. Can't wait to see them come over, and hopefully tear it up in the GSL
RIP oGs :( Bisu~ MC~Jaedong~Hero~Tyler~Flash~NaNi~DRG~MVP~Nestea~FXOz~and of course ForGG
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
January 09 2012 20:27 GMT
#328
On January 10 2012 05:01 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 04:52 ImbaTosS wrote:
One factor- has anyone seen how well the BroodWar Proleague is doing this season? Answer is very well.


According to Milki's its doing like 1/3rd the viewership that it had in 2007 and isn't getting that many. I don't want bw to die but it seems all the people in korea who actually can find stuff out and I don't see why fxoboss would lie either and with milkis saying the same thing well doesn't look good.

I enjoy both bw/sc2 and looks like this might be the last of bw unless milkis/boss are just playing a joke which again I highly doubt.

That may be true, but I'm sure it is beating sc2 viewership handily. BW may be way smaller than before, but in comparison to other esports, it is still massive. 700,000 people watched Boxer's first GSL match, which is higher than what MLG, IPL, NASL, IEM, Dreamhack got in their finals put together. And that was only a Ro64 GSL match.
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
January 09 2012 20:28 GMT
#329
How exciting ^_^
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 09 2012 20:33 GMT
#330
Can't wait, I have nerdchills even thinking "Bisu vs Nestea" brrrrr...i just peed myself.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 20:39:14
January 09 2012 20:39 GMT
#331
On January 10 2012 05:27 Micket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 05:01 blade55555 wrote:
On January 10 2012 04:52 ImbaTosS wrote:
One factor- has anyone seen how well the BroodWar Proleague is doing this season? Answer is very well.


According to Milki's its doing like 1/3rd the viewership that it had in 2007 and isn't getting that many. I don't want bw to die but it seems all the people in korea who actually can find stuff out and I don't see why fxoboss would lie either and with milkis saying the same thing well doesn't look good.

I enjoy both bw/sc2 and looks like this might be the last of bw unless milkis/boss are just playing a joke which again I highly doubt.

That may be true, but I'm sure it is beating sc2 viewership handily. BW may be way smaller than before, but in comparison to other esports, it is still massive. 700,000 people watched Boxer's first GSL match, which is higher than what MLG, IPL, NASL, IEM, Dreamhack got in their finals put together. And that was only a Ro64 GSL match.


Well it obviously isn't beating sc2 viewership handily considering kespa is really wanting to get sc2 in there now. In korea GSL yeah I imagine bw is doing better both in terms of actually going and also online viewership but in korea only not counting foreigners who watch.

But i also don't know how many viewership bw gets but if it was beating sc2 viewership easy peasy I just don't see why they would want to switch to sc2 then ^^.

I just wish both could live side by side T_T.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
January 09 2012 20:43 GMT
#332
On January 10 2012 04:52 ImbaTosS wrote:
One factor- has anyone seen how well the BroodWar Proleague is doing this season? Answer is very well.


i dont think that the people watching spl do care about the game.
they just wann see their Dong's, Yong's and Ho's
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
January 09 2012 20:48 GMT
#333
On January 10 2012 05:43 DeadBull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 04:52 ImbaTosS wrote:
One factor- has anyone seen how well the BroodWar Proleague is doing this season? Answer is very well.


i dont think that the people watching spl do care about the game.
they just wann see their Dong's, Yong's and Ho's

I don't think people will follow the Dongs, Yongs and Hos into SC2. People don't want to watch Dongs, Yongs and Hos play a different game.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
January 09 2012 20:53 GMT
#334
Firebathero -> HellionHero?
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 09 2012 20:54 GMT
#335
On January 10 2012 05:53 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Firebathero -> HellionHero?


As long as it's not MarauderHero
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
January 09 2012 21:00 GMT
#336
On January 10 2012 05:54 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 05:53 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Firebathero -> HellionHero?


As long as it's not MarauderHero


On the plus side, the foreign tournaments may reignite GoForASwimHero.
KulterBaun
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden44 Posts
January 09 2012 21:04 GMT
#337
I think only a few of them or even that will actually get to the top. The mechanics in sc2 are so easy so i dont think they will be better than MVP or Nestea they wont be better just because they had godly mechanics in bw.
"Mom <3<3<3<3" - Mom
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
January 09 2012 21:06 GMT
#338
Perfectman and Backho GSL final
I'd laugh at that, but Perfectman all the day
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
January 09 2012 21:07 GMT
#339
On January 10 2012 06:00 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 05:54 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 10 2012 05:53 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Firebathero -> HellionHero?


As long as it's not MarauderHero


On the plus side, the foreign tournaments may reignite GoForASwimHero.


I am salivating right about now.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 09 2012 21:08 GMT
#340
On January 10 2012 03:21 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 03:17 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 10 2012 03:13 Gackt_ wrote:
On January 10 2012 02:29 umsplay wrote:
I hope that the biggest BW players do not join sc2. I want to remember Jeadong and Flash as greatest BW player not some sc2 code B level.Also sc2 dosent require as much skill as BW!

User was warned for this post



why was he warned? everybody got right to an opinion?


on the other hand..
When I look at Julyzerg and I think back to Broodwar Im not even sure anymore that the top players from BW will dominate when they switch over..I mean sure.. I suppose there will be some new innovative builds and strats but I dunno guys...I mean July clearly got problems with the Sc2, his decisions when charging in with lings vs marines in a corner with 2 medivacs is just so fail..sure he was not at top at the last years but still..it's a former champion from 08.

Yeah 2008....by 2010 when he switched over he was terrible. (and he still made to a gsl final when no Zerg was winning)


He made the GSL by all inning almost every single game he played, and if you haven't noticed he hasn't really done anything else after that because people realized all he can do now is all in. Getting to one finals once and then getting demolished doesn't mean anything, I mean inca made it to a finals too.

July got Ro4 in Code S a few seasons ago losing to MVP...
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