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Awesome I can finally justify paying for NASL.
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I like how NASL really takes to improving their league. It really shows they care
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Sounds good. I hope NASL can do well, though if I see one day where a player unable to play their match is not announced ahead of time, I'll definitely just stop watching again. I'm sure people might think that it would be an extreme reaction, but since it has been happening previous seasons and it is something that is easy to avoid (even if it is just posted in the LR threads) it really shouldn't happen.
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On January 02 2012 13:51 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 13:00 Duravi wrote:On January 02 2012 11:47 magnaflow wrote:
Season one was hyped.. failed to deliver, season two was hyped.. failed to deliver, season three??
Your wrong when you say all you promised was a $100,000.00 league. We were told it would be top notch production, the best of the best from all over the world (of course the Korean issue wasn't all your fault). We were also told that the games being played were to be casted the day before broadcasting and yet we find out that in season two most of the games/series were all played on the same day and broadcasted weeks later.
You have alot of work to do to win over most of the community and as much as I hate to say i'm not putting to much trust in your words. Please prove me wrong and deliver on season three unlike seasons one and two. How is it every other major league in the fucking world can manage to work with the Koreans but NASL can't? I agree with your other criticisms, my biggest concern with NASL is that if things were going to actually change drastically it would mean changes at the top (i.e. firing/replacing people currently in charge), something they clearly are not willing to do. I am a huge critic of NASL but the Korean thing was not their fault. SC2CON was a bunch of horseshit.
Can't emphasize this enough. Also the only other major league in existance outside of Korea is IPL, and besides being ran by a News Corp company, they have not had a season after the koreans came up with their demands.
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Sounds great, hope you guys can deliver on all the changes! Would be awesome to see another quality league
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On January 02 2012 14:17 Soap wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 13:51 Diamond wrote:On January 02 2012 13:00 Duravi wrote:On January 02 2012 11:47 magnaflow wrote:
Season one was hyped.. failed to deliver, season two was hyped.. failed to deliver, season three??
Your wrong when you say all you promised was a $100,000.00 league. We were told it would be top notch production, the best of the best from all over the world (of course the Korean issue wasn't all your fault). We were also told that the games being played were to be casted the day before broadcasting and yet we find out that in season two most of the games/series were all played on the same day and broadcasted weeks later.
You have alot of work to do to win over most of the community and as much as I hate to say i'm not putting to much trust in your words. Please prove me wrong and deliver on season three unlike seasons one and two. How is it every other major league in the fucking world can manage to work with the Koreans but NASL can't? I agree with your other criticisms, my biggest concern with NASL is that if things were going to actually change drastically it would mean changes at the top (i.e. firing/replacing people currently in charge), something they clearly are not willing to do. I am a huge critic of NASL but the Korean thing was not their fault. SC2CON was a bunch of horseshit. Can't emphasize this enough. Also the only other major league in existance outside of Korea is IPL, and besides being ran by a News Corp company, they have not had a season after the koreans came up with their demands.
what about MLG?
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On January 02 2012 14:22 Corvette wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 14:17 Soap wrote:On January 02 2012 13:51 Diamond wrote:On January 02 2012 13:00 Duravi wrote:On January 02 2012 11:47 magnaflow wrote:
Season one was hyped.. failed to deliver, season two was hyped.. failed to deliver, season three??
Your wrong when you say all you promised was a $100,000.00 league. We were told it would be top notch production, the best of the best from all over the world (of course the Korean issue wasn't all your fault). We were also told that the games being played were to be casted the day before broadcasting and yet we find out that in season two most of the games/series were all played on the same day and broadcasted weeks later.
You have alot of work to do to win over most of the community and as much as I hate to say i'm not putting to much trust in your words. Please prove me wrong and deliver on season three unlike seasons one and two. How is it every other major league in the fucking world can manage to work with the Koreans but NASL can't? I agree with your other criticisms, my biggest concern with NASL is that if things were going to actually change drastically it would mean changes at the top (i.e. firing/replacing people currently in charge), something they clearly are not willing to do. I am a huge critic of NASL but the Korean thing was not their fault. SC2CON was a bunch of horseshit. Can't emphasize this enough. Also the only other major league in existance outside of Korea is IPL, and besides being ran by a News Corp company, they have not had a season after the koreans came up with their demands. what about MLG?
Despite having "league" in the name, it is run as separate 3-day events. Besides, if they are to become the standard of treatment of koreans (fly and acommodate them over with a guaranteed top 32 spot) then the foreign scene is going bankrupt.
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On January 02 2012 13:51 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 13:00 Duravi wrote:On January 02 2012 11:47 magnaflow wrote:
Season one was hyped.. failed to deliver, season two was hyped.. failed to deliver, season three??
Your wrong when you say all you promised was a $100,000.00 league. We were told it would be top notch production, the best of the best from all over the world (of course the Korean issue wasn't all your fault). We were also told that the games being played were to be casted the day before broadcasting and yet we find out that in season two most of the games/series were all played on the same day and broadcasted weeks later.
You have alot of work to do to win over most of the community and as much as I hate to say i'm not putting to much trust in your words. Please prove me wrong and deliver on season three unlike seasons one and two. How is it every other major league in the fucking world can manage to work with the Koreans but NASL can't? I agree with your other criticisms, my biggest concern with NASL is that if things were going to actually change drastically it would mean changes at the top (i.e. firing/replacing people currently in charge), something they clearly are not willing to do. I am a huge critic of NASL but the Korean thing was not their fault. SC2CON was a bunch of horseshit.
SC2CON is gone now though. Also, Slayers, who was not associated with SC2CON chose to boycott season 2, the reason why was never fully explained. If SC2CON was truly the thing holding koreans back from NASL then I guess we can expect them all to try to qualify for season 3?
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On January 02 2012 09:29 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though
promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered. There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something. I'm sure you'll "deliver." But what kind of shape will it come in?
Well wax, I think you should be more optimistic. But, I do think it will be a Snore fest if they are lax on getting the koreans into NASL.
+ Show Spoiler +<3 waxangel for like months just cuz he has snorelax as his icon.
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I think it would be wise to actually make an effort to accommodate (borrowing your word choice) Korean players. Sure, you want to be equal to everyone and all that and not offer special financial support to any particular players. It's a nice idea, I get it. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if spending a little now to draw in higher caliber players would actually up your profits in the long term. For example, maybe you reimburse part of a few flights: you spend now, but gain many more viewers. Maybe I'm wrong though -- maybe no one wants more tournaments with sickgood players. GSL, KSL, IPL, Dreamhack, MLG... etc... I guess that is a little much. Maybe NASL has a niche of its own, but I'm just not seeing it...
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looks good, i hope your 3rd season turns out better than the 2nd
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I'm excited! Thanks NASL!
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On January 02 2012 10:26 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 10:01 Killerhands wrote:On January 02 2012 09:56 ptbl wrote:On January 02 2012 09:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:On January 02 2012 09:33 StarMoon wrote:
Is there a particular reason you are avoiding the question of who is casting this team tournament, and who is casting next main season?
I'm sure I'm not the only one that considers whether I like the casters a major reason for why I watch games. Perhaps he wants to keep it in the dark until he actually announces it formally, as in tomorrow? Or perhaps he hasn't locked down the casters for Season 3 and doesn't want to promise a certain caster only to have them step out before the season begins? On January 02 2012 09:29 Waxangel wrote:On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though
promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered. There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something. I'm sure you'll "deliver." But what kind of shape will it come in? This is pretty uncalled for, I'll admit I was a huge critic of NASL Seasons 1 and 2, and I'd even go as far as to say I was unnecessarily harsh on some aspects, but this just seems like......tournament racism. Enough with the brown nosing. Most of the criticisms against NASL are legit. For example, in Season 1 they changed it from 480p to 360p without notifying the public. Furthermore, they ignored the outcries and kept 360p in season 2. In Season 1, people complained that NASL wasn't announcing walkovers ahead of time. In Season 2, NASL still hasn't changed and walkovers were kept under wraps. In Season 1, some games were played a couple of weeks in advance. People complained. In Season 2, the majority of the games were played 3-4 weeks before the airing date. These are just a couple of examples off the top of my head. There's a history and a track record of NASL promising to deliver a great product from one season into the next, but we are always disappointed. Waxangel is right. NASL has to prove it to us that this time it is different. I'm tired of being let down and disappointed. I'll wait and see. What's your preference... a game being played or a walkover? I prefer a game being played. I also prefer advance warning if there is a walkover. For example, I tuned into a NASL watch between herO and demuslim. It was the only reason I tuned in and organized my schedule around it. Then it turned out to be a walkover. NASL should have had the decency to let the public know it advance that it was a walkover,
Midway through the season we started announcing all the walk overs in advance. This is something we corrected, and will continue to carry over into Season 3.
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Sounds great, hoping you manage to pull it through.
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Be careful not to take the NASL for granted. They're doing a lot of great stuff for the community and the project deserves everyone's support. Keep up the good work!
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Free vods, live games, and better quality for free stream sounds amazing to me, will be checking it out on day 1 for sure of season 3.
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is there any way to qualify for nasl ? Or whatsup with that.
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Cool that really helps me out in Europe! I could almost never watch the NASL live cause of the timezones. Free VOD's ftw :D
Looks great 
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On January 02 2012 06:18 Xeris wrote:
[*] LIVE / AS-LIVE broadcasting! We will be bringing you multiple matches totally LIVE each day, and games won’t be broadcast more than a day after they are played
You can type "live" in caps as much as u want, but it's broadcasted from replays, right?
(Sorry if I misundersood and the matches are actually being played live).
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NASL should consider abandoning the qualifier format they used in the first two seasons. It just drags on forever, it doesn't seem to generate much interest or excitement, and then there are continuous problems with scheduling and players having to play scheduled games even though they have little or no chance of advancing in their group.
Groups of 4 with the OSL format (the one GSL used until this season as well) is the optimal way to do this, both for the players and for the viewers. I don't see why anyone would do it differently. All of the games can be played (and shown) in a single evening, and the viewers get to see out a group and have some sort of context and a conclusion to the games (knowing who qualified and who didn't).
That said, I liked the final tournament format and I hope they stick with single elimination.
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