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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
January 02 2012 00:24 GMT
#101
Looking forward to continued NASL improvements! I have enjoyed both seasons so far and expect more good things to come. Thanks for it!
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#102
On January 02 2012 09:22 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:13 mango_destroyer wrote:
how will you deal with potential stream cheating if its real LIVE casting.


Xeris said right above

Show nested quote +
AS-LIVE == the game was played in the morning, and we cast it at night with our live broadcast

He said they'd be doing it 100% live when possible, but if not, they'd go the As-Live route.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
FluidKMC
Profile Joined April 2011
United States45 Posts
January 02 2012 00:28 GMT
#103
Iv always liked NASL. Really hope season 3 is a big success! :D
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33506 Posts
January 02 2012 00:29 GMT
#104
On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though

promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend


I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered.

There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something.



I'm sure you'll "deliver."

But what kind of shape will it come in?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
January 02 2012 00:33 GMT
#105
Is there a particular reason you are avoiding the question of who is casting this team tournament, and who is casting next main season?

I'm sure I'm not the only one that considers whether I like the casters a major reason for why I watch games.
Killerhands
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States269 Posts
January 02 2012 00:35 GMT
#106
On January 02 2012 09:33 StarMoon wrote:
Is there a particular reason you are avoiding the question of who is casting this team tournament, and who is casting next main season?

I'm sure I'm not the only one that considers whether I like the casters a major reason for why I watch games.


I think it's a fair assumption to infer they're working on it...
Winter, the realm of eternal ice. >> http://www.teamepi.com <<
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 02 2012 00:36 GMT
#107
On January 02 2012 09:33 StarMoon wrote:
Is there a particular reason you are avoiding the question of who is casting this team tournament, and who is casting next main season?

I'm sure I'm not the only one that considers whether I like the casters a major reason for why I watch games.

Perhaps he wants to keep it in the dark until he actually announces it formally, as in tomorrow? Or perhaps he hasn't locked down the casters for Season 3 and doesn't want to promise a certain caster only to have them step out before the season begins?

On January 02 2012 09:29 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:
On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though

promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend


I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered.

There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something.



I'm sure you'll "deliver."

But what kind of shape will it come in?

This is pretty uncalled for, I'll admit I was a huge critic of NASL Seasons 1 and 2, and I'd even go as far as to say I was unnecessarily harsh on some aspects, but this just seems like......tournament racism.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
January 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#108
Free vods is all i needed to hear, you're all mine NASL
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Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
January 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#109
On January 02 2012 09:29 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:
On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though

promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend


I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered.

There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something.



I'm sure you'll "deliver."

But what kind of shape will it come in?


Im not a particular fan of NASL but who the fuck took a piss in your cornflakes today?
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Kybuar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
January 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#110
For a league that keeps on getting shit on every chance people get, you guys show that you have real dedication to this. You are looking past all the hate, and getting to what the real message people are trying to tell you. A few leagues have just trash talked the people giving them advice, but you are truly different. I can only hope that the off season and S3 NASL will seasl the deal on you guys being the best NA league.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:46:19
January 02 2012 00:46 GMT
#111
It's kinda interesting that you chose to use the word live twice to explain a format that it isn't live.
blanks.yuC
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland61 Posts
January 02 2012 00:55 GMT
#112
Sounds awsome! NASL is officialy rehyped ;]
Come at me bro!
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:57:51
January 02 2012 00:56 GMT
#113
On January 02 2012 09:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:33 StarMoon wrote:
Is there a particular reason you are avoiding the question of who is casting this team tournament, and who is casting next main season?

I'm sure I'm not the only one that considers whether I like the casters a major reason for why I watch games.

Perhaps he wants to keep it in the dark until he actually announces it formally, as in tomorrow? Or perhaps he hasn't locked down the casters for Season 3 and doesn't want to promise a certain caster only to have them step out before the season begins?

Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:29 Waxangel wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:
On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though

promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend


I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered.

There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something.



I'm sure you'll "deliver."

But what kind of shape will it come in?

This is pretty uncalled for, I'll admit I was a huge critic of NASL Seasons 1 and 2, and I'd even go as far as to say I was unnecessarily harsh on some aspects, but this just seems like......tournament racism.


Enough with the brown nosing. Most of the criticisms against NASL are legit. For example, in Season 1 they changed it from 480p to 360p without notifying the public. Furthermore, they ignored the outcries and kept 360p in season 2.

In Season 1, people complained that NASL wasn't announcing walkovers ahead of time. In Season 2, NASL still hasn't changed and walkovers were kept under wraps.

In Season 1, some games were played a couple of weeks in advance. People complained. In Season 2, the majority of the games were played 3-4 weeks before the airing date.

These are just a couple of examples off the top of my head. There's a history and a track record of NASL promising to deliver a great product from one season into the next, but we are always disappointed.

Waxangel is right. NASL has to prove it to us that this time it is different. I'm tired of being let down and disappointed. I'll wait and see.
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 02 2012 00:56 GMT
#114
Is 200k for Season 3 still good?
Don't mind me
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:58:27
January 02 2012 00:57 GMT
#115
Sounds great. I love team-leagues!

This could be really awesome, hope you make it so!
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
January 02 2012 01:00 GMT
#116
On January 02 2012 09:45 Rylaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:29 Waxangel wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:
On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though

promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend


I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered.

There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something.



I'm sure you'll "deliver."

But what kind of shape will it come in?


Im not a particular fan of NASL but who the fuck took a piss in your cornflakes today?

Waxangel's words actually are less harsh than criticisms many other forumgoers voice, but his affiliation with Teamliquid gives them a different tone. I don't think he is actually trying to sound as nasty as people may interpret it as.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Killerhands
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States269 Posts
January 02 2012 01:01 GMT
#117
On January 02 2012 09:56 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:33 StarMoon wrote:
Is there a particular reason you are avoiding the question of who is casting this team tournament, and who is casting next main season?

I'm sure I'm not the only one that considers whether I like the casters a major reason for why I watch games.

Perhaps he wants to keep it in the dark until he actually announces it formally, as in tomorrow? Or perhaps he hasn't locked down the casters for Season 3 and doesn't want to promise a certain caster only to have them step out before the season begins?

On January 02 2012 09:29 Waxangel wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:
On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though

promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend


I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered.

There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something.



I'm sure you'll "deliver."

But what kind of shape will it come in?

This is pretty uncalled for, I'll admit I was a huge critic of NASL Seasons 1 and 2, and I'd even go as far as to say I was unnecessarily harsh on some aspects, but this just seems like......tournament racism.


Enough with the brown nosing. Most of the criticisms against NASL are legit. For example, in Season 1 they changed it from 480p to 360p without notifying the public. Furthermore, they ignored the outcries and kept 360p in season 2.

In Season 1, people complained that NASL wasn't announcing walkovers ahead of time. In Season 2, NASL still hasn't changed and walkovers were kept under wraps.

In Season 1, some games were played a couple of weeks in advance. People complained. In Season 2, the majority of the games were played 3-4 weeks before the airing date.

These are just a couple of examples off the top of my head. There's a history and a track record of NASL promising to deliver a great product from one season into the next, but we are always disappointed.

Waxangel is right. NASL has to prove it to us that this time it is different. I'm tired of being let down and disappointed. I'll wait and see.


What's your preference... a game being played or a walkover?
Winter, the realm of eternal ice. >> http://www.teamepi.com <<
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 02 2012 01:03 GMT
#118
On January 02 2012 09:56 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:33 StarMoon wrote:
Is there a particular reason you are avoiding the question of who is casting this team tournament, and who is casting next main season?

I'm sure I'm not the only one that considers whether I like the casters a major reason for why I watch games.

Perhaps he wants to keep it in the dark until he actually announces it formally, as in tomorrow? Or perhaps he hasn't locked down the casters for Season 3 and doesn't want to promise a certain caster only to have them step out before the season begins?

On January 02 2012 09:29 Waxangel wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:
On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though

promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend


I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered.

There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something.



I'm sure you'll "deliver."

But what kind of shape will it come in?

This is pretty uncalled for, I'll admit I was a huge critic of NASL Seasons 1 and 2, and I'd even go as far as to say I was unnecessarily harsh on some aspects, but this just seems like......tournament racism.


Enough with the brown nosing. Most of the criticisms against NASL are legit. For example, in Season 1 they changed it from 480p to 360p without notifying the public. Furthermore, they ignored the outcries and kept 360p in season 2.

In Season 1, people complained that NASL wasn't announcing walkovers ahead of time. In Season 2, NASL still hasn't changed and walkovers were kept under wraps.

In Season 1, some games were played a couple of weeks in advance. People complained. In Season 2, the majority of the games were played 3-4 weeks before the airing date.

These are just a couple of examples off the top of my head. There's a history and a track record of NASL promising to deliver a great product from one season into the next, but we are always disappointed.

Waxangel is right. NASL has to prove it to us that this time it is different. I'm tired of being let down and disappointed. I'll wait and see.

Like I said, I was a huge critic of both Seasons 1 and 2. Hell, all you have to do is go back in time like a month to see me railing on NASL for things like listing MajOr as a TSL player.

Season 2 was absolutely terrible as far as the regular season goes, and it would appear that they've learned the lesson. Xeris already left Fnatic so he could focus more on NASL (and other projects) and I think in 2012 NASL is looking to pull a complete 180.

Furthermore, even if you're not a huge fan of NASL, there is no reason to come into their 2012 announcement thread (where they're trying to fix just about everything you seem to dislike about it) and shit all over it. Have a little class.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
January 02 2012 01:04 GMT
#119
On January 02 2012 10:01 Killerhands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:56 ptbl wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:33 StarMoon wrote:
Is there a particular reason you are avoiding the question of who is casting this team tournament, and who is casting next main season?

I'm sure I'm not the only one that considers whether I like the casters a major reason for why I watch games.

Perhaps he wants to keep it in the dark until he actually announces it formally, as in tomorrow? Or perhaps he hasn't locked down the casters for Season 3 and doesn't want to promise a certain caster only to have them step out before the season begins?

On January 02 2012 09:29 Waxangel wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:05 Xeris wrote:
On January 02 2012 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
great.... worthless until we see them implemented though

promising big things and not delivering has been a pretty standard NASL trend


I don't get what we've promised and not delivered? The only thing we promised was a $100,000 league - which we delivered.

There's a huge difference between not living up to expectations and failing to deliver something.



I'm sure you'll "deliver."

But what kind of shape will it come in?

This is pretty uncalled for, I'll admit I was a huge critic of NASL Seasons 1 and 2, and I'd even go as far as to say I was unnecessarily harsh on some aspects, but this just seems like......tournament racism.


Enough with the brown nosing. Most of the criticisms against NASL are legit. For example, in Season 1 they changed it from 480p to 360p without notifying the public. Furthermore, they ignored the outcries and kept 360p in season 2.

In Season 1, people complained that NASL wasn't announcing walkovers ahead of time. In Season 2, NASL still hasn't changed and walkovers were kept under wraps.

In Season 1, some games were played a couple of weeks in advance. People complained. In Season 2, the majority of the games were played 3-4 weeks before the airing date.

These are just a couple of examples off the top of my head. There's a history and a track record of NASL promising to deliver a great product from one season into the next, but we are always disappointed.

Waxangel is right. NASL has to prove it to us that this time it is different. I'm tired of being let down and disappointed. I'll wait and see.


What's your preference... a game being played or a walkover?


If you're trying to infer that the delays were caused because they were trying to avoid walkovers you'd be wrong. Ton of walkover still occurred anyways. The main reason why a ton of games were played 3-4 weeks ahead of time was because of the craziness that was the end of the 2011 season. I believe Xeris said this in another NASL post or someone affiliated did. That being said they had no right to keep that shit hidden and continue to advertise "2-3 day" delayed games like nothing ever changed.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 01:09:04
January 02 2012 01:06 GMT
#120
You should really reach out to the koreans and encourage them to sign up, SC2CON is gone, you can deal with each team individually. It is not a "special accommodation" to give incentives for players that are arguably the biggest draw for viewers in SC2 outside a few extremely popular westerners (and lets face it, those few facing top caliber koreans is the biggest draw). You benefit from them being in the league more than other players, why shouldn't they benefit more as well? Don't take this as shitting on Puma and Hero, they are both excellent players, but the fact that they breezed through the season and met in the finals, but have yet to even qualify once for Code S indicates the overall skill level in NASL is not very high relative to the other big name tournaments.
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