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legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
December 26 2011 17:56 GMT
#21
So, the SC2 bubble is going to burst in 2012?
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 26 2011 17:59 GMT
#22
Thanks for the info. I "stopped" playing myself. I am still active in that graph but I think I didn't play a single 1v1 in December yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
December 26 2011 18:06 GMT
#23
Does anyone have data for similar trends from BW or other RTS games? It would interesting to predict how many people would be left in the next few seasons.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
December 26 2011 18:14 GMT
#24
thank you the Data. I personally find it very interesting.
keep it deep! @zulison
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
December 26 2011 18:21 GMT
#25
Thanks for the stats - they're always interesting to see.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
December 26 2011 18:31 GMT
#26
On December 27 2011 03:06 BearStorm wrote:
Does anyone have data for similar trends from BW or other RTS games? It would interesting to predict how many people would be left in the next few seasons.


it was a very different situation. people played BW for fun, while there's usually consistent pressure to perform in sc2, because the game was marketed precisely as a competitive online one.

BW was simply marketed as an incredible expansion to a good game, and the competitive aspect didn't really grip so many players until it became huge in korea.

playing sc2 is one of the most un-fun things i can possibly do.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
December 26 2011 18:34 GMT
#27
On December 27 2011 03:31 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 03:06 BearStorm wrote:
Does anyone have data for similar trends from BW or other RTS games? It would interesting to predict how many people would be left in the next few seasons.


it was a very different situation. people played BW for fun, while there's usually consistent pressure to perform in sc2, because the game was marketed precisely as a competitive online one.

BW was simply marketed as an incredible expansion to a good game, and the competitive aspect didn't really grip so many players until it became huge in korea.

playing sc2 is one of the most un-fun things i can possibly do.

If similar information for custom games was easily accessible to me, I'd love to do the same work on those numbers. Alas, all I have is competitive data, which is too bad. Maybe I'll try to find something to use...
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
December 26 2011 18:35 GMT
#28
On December 27 2011 03:31 shadymmj wrote:playing sc2 is one of the most un-fun things i can possibly do.

Agreed. I tried playing BW recently but finding games just takes too long.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
December 26 2011 18:47 GMT
#29
Why would you require 26 1v1 ladder games? I for one cannot play with the 1.4 bugs as I have a mac, I play a few games, but generally just practice v AI or team games to keep my fingers going... But I still play several times a week, I'm just waiting for the lag to become playable again.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
December 26 2011 18:59 GMT
#30
On December 27 2011 03:47 Ghanburighan wrote:
Why would you require 26 1v1 ladder games? I for one cannot play with the 1.4 bugs as I have a mac, I play a few games, but generally just practice v AI or team games to keep my fingers going... But I still play several times a week, I'm just waiting for the lag to become playable again.

Admittedly, 26 the number I used last season (with 90 days), and just used it again this season (with 55 days). I might update the table to compare 20 wins. But, the percent changes are pretty similar across the board, looking at the graphs.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15684 Posts
December 26 2011 19:03 GMT
#31
I and a lot of other people basically stopped laddering, and instead, just follow the pro scene. So this is great for tournaments! xD
muzzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States640 Posts
December 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#32
On December 27 2011 03:35 BearStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 03:31 shadymmj wrote:playing sc2 is one of the most un-fun things i can possibly do.

Agreed. I tried playing BW recently but finding games just takes too long.

Never really got this, but I hear it a lot. Probably the same group that gets "anxiety" and doesn't want to hit "Find Match".

To me, the intense competition is what makes it fun. Casual games without high levels of competition tend to be fun for awhile, but I burn out quickly when I realize there is no more room to improve (and I don't count "acquire better items" as improvement).

Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
December 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#33
On December 27 2011 04:06 muzzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 03:35 BearStorm wrote:
On December 27 2011 03:31 shadymmj wrote:playing sc2 is one of the most un-fun things i can possibly do.

Agreed. I tried playing BW recently but finding games just takes too long.

Never really got this, but I hear it a lot. Probably the same group that gets "anxiety" and doesn't want to hit "Find Match".

To me, the intense competition is what makes it fun. Casual games without high levels of competition tend to be fun for awhile, but I burn out quickly when I realize there is no more room to improve (and I don't count "acquire better items" as improvement).



This might come as a surprise to you, but it is possible for a person to simply dislike "competitive" SC2. At least in BW, the game actually became more fun as you moved up the ranks, whereas in SC2 getting from Diamond to Masters just means the cheese is going to be more refined. At some point you just stop caring.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 26 2011 19:20 GMT
#34
Private server are out, I guess that's explain the sudden decline of the CN server (?)
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
December 26 2011 19:38 GMT
#35
On December 27 2011 04:20 MrCon wrote:
Private server are out, I guess that's explain the sudden decline of the CN server (?)


I think that might be, above everything else be the main reason why it dropped so much. I bet there's even more people playing now, but fewer on the offical servers.
Pokemon Master
PopcornColonel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
December 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#36
This is really interesting, but how did you get this data?
Zerg delenda est.
IIIOmegaIII
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden319 Posts
December 26 2011 19:57 GMT
#37
good read
BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
December 26 2011 20:07 GMT
#38
On December 27 2011 04:06 muzzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 03:35 BearStorm wrote:
On December 27 2011 03:31 shadymmj wrote:playing sc2 is one of the most un-fun things i can possibly do.

Agreed. I tried playing BW recently but finding games just takes too long.

Never really got this, but I hear it a lot. Probably the same group that gets "anxiety" and doesn't want to hit "Find Match".

To me, the intense competition is what makes it fun. Casual games without high levels of competition tend to be fun for awhile, but I burn out quickly when I realize there is no more room to improve (and I don't count "acquire better items" as improvement).



I think he meant just finding games to play takes too long. I've looked for games on iccup and not been able to find any that didn't have terrible lag for 30 minutes and its frustrating trying to find a game to join.
"So come right up and let me squash your creativity with my iron fist of conservative play."--Nony
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
December 26 2011 20:25 GMT
#39
On December 27 2011 04:06 muzzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 03:35 BearStorm wrote:
On December 27 2011 03:31 shadymmj wrote:playing sc2 is one of the most un-fun things i can possibly do.

Agreed. I tried playing BW recently but finding games just takes too long.

Never really got this, but I hear it a lot. Probably the same group that gets "anxiety" and doesn't want to hit "Find Match".

To me, the intense competition is what makes it fun. Casual games without high levels of competition tend to be fun for awhile, but I burn out quickly when I realize there is no more room to improve (and I don't count "acquire better items" as improvement).



I never said anything about anxiety. After the new game effect wore off, the game just didn't feel fun to play anymore. Nothing to do with intense competition. I played iccup at C- which probably generated more anxiety than any SC2 matching ever did. But the discussion at hand is about player activity so lets not veer off course too much.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
December 26 2011 20:25 GMT
#40
Interesting data but not surprising. I've been playing since early S1, NA server and more recently I started playing on the KR server. I've seen a good deal of friends quit playing over the seasons for various reasons. I'm almost at that point as well now, 1v1 ladder is about the last thing i'd do for fun anymore (TvP anyone? Jesus Christ..) and team games got stale a while ago. The custom games in SC2 have not captivated me in the slightest whereas I remember playing customs in SC1 and WC3 for months and months after I had given up on the standard play. At least for me personally, most of the people I know who are quitting are just switching to Dota2 because its so much more fun.
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