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TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
July 18 2012 08:38 GMT
#1041
I was thinking about this earlier, but Khaldor is quickly becoming my favorite caster. Keep up the amazing work!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 08:47:17
July 18 2012 08:46 GMT
#1042
On July 17 2012 02:39 MVega wrote:
Overall one of the casters that makes the fewest mistakes. I generally enjoy your casting aside from two things:

1) Miscalling a game due to bias. I respect you quite a bit and I know I couldn't do your job as well as you do, I respect that you, like me, are a person and have favorite players, but don't let that impact how you cast a game featuring one of those players as it's kind of off-putting to people who aren't fans of the same players. You're far from the only caster that does this though, this past weekend at NASL the casters would act as if Stephano had an insurmountable lead every time he moved a zergling, for example.

2) Excessive yelling. I understand getting excited during a game, I do it too, believe me, I've been known to get seriously hyped over some of my players doing impressive things. When I'm hyped and the caster is hyped too that's one thing, but when something fairly run of the mill happens and the caster starts screaming in a really high pitched voice as if it's the most exciting thing ever it's a little cringe worthy.

Really though aside from those two things I have no complaints and you're one of my favorite casters. Keep up the good work.


to part 2, i think they yell to less xD come on i watched this kespa vs gom on the first week in korean and they seems dying while casting, in compare the english casters sleep while watch xD we need to be more like the koreans cause there casting is very cool xD


as german i miss his german casting alot xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
VPVanek
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada238 Posts
July 18 2012 08:54 GMT
#1043
1) You are so biased its really annoying.
2) You think that you are better than players playing (You are a caster for a reason)
3) Fall off topic too much, nobody cares about you, we want to know about the game
FoXer
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 18 2012 09:02 GMT
#1044
On July 18 2012 17:54 VPVanek wrote:
1) You are so biased its really annoying.
2) You think that you are better than players playing (You are a caster for a reason)
3) Fall off topic too much, nobody cares about you, we want to know about the game


You are expressing your own opinions as facts, in all three points. This isn't really constructive feedback.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Brainiak
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany91 Posts
July 18 2012 11:08 GMT
#1045
In my opinion you are doing a good job considering that you are not a native english speaker. But sometimes your are too eager to draw conclusions. I understand that day9 or artosis/tasteless can do that, but you do not have the extensive knowledge and experience, yet
Moreover I think you can improve on building up tension. For me your build up is too fast and seems off, not very authentic. You get exited very fast but you need to grant the average viewer more time to understand why you are so pumped.
Maybe this is too strong, but if you cast solely or do not pick up the hints the other casters give you i mute the stream.
This is because your predictions are often times totaly wrong and you still think that you are on top of the game.
As you get more experience and fill up your knowledge bag i think you can become a great caster.
These are my points for you to get better.
Grüße
Brainiak
“History is written by the victors.” Winston Churchill
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
July 18 2012 11:16 GMT
#1046
I wasn't really a fan of you at all at first. But you have really grown on me and I absolutely love everything you do. Keep up the great work! :D
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
July 18 2012 11:22 GMT
#1047
i personally think you overuse the phrase ' the protoss player from sweden'... nothing wrong with it but you really don't have to use it every game. try throw in other nicks if you can't resist. can even say 'the swede' or something when its foreigner vs korean. just a lil repetitve thats all
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Homeland
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark58 Posts
July 18 2012 11:54 GMT
#1048
I am very happy that you took over from moletrap, but I think there is a lot you can improve on. I am very happy that you are not trying to act like a american sports caster, bacause people who put on that "accent" sound stupid and it is more annoying than anything.. Your individual casting is ok, you do not have the deep inside knowledge on the game. However that should not hinder you since you are paired up with Wolf who does. You however need to realise this and try to work on oneanother strenghts.

My experience of you cast is right now very confusing because you both want to give the strat inside, but wulf does this better than you. You are bad at interrupting wolf aswell, so what would be idea is to do something like what tasteless does. People often underrestimate tasteless because artosis is the strat inside there. But tasteless is very good at making jokes, and dragging things out while being entertaining. But his biggest streghth, and artosis is bad at this, is giving it up for the other caster. He asks artosis questions, and artosis gives the answers. He is therefore piloting the cast, whichout taking attention away from the game and is creating a flow with his co-caster.
You need to figure out who does what with Wolf if it is to work, otherwise your are not gaining anything from having you and wolf there. If you and wolf are fighting to tell all the strats of what is going on then Wolf will beat you and you will come out as a lesser caster. And all the wonderfull things you give to the cast will be in vein...
ZeNd0kUn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States331 Posts
July 18 2012 12:00 GMT
#1049
Yo Khaldor ... you're doing great. Go easy on Wolf ... I know he says some nutty and crazy things at times ... but nevertheless I think you 2 are doing a great job. Keep it up bro.
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment." - Jesus
Floppel
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany1 Post
July 18 2012 15:03 GMT
#1050
Why i don't enjoy Khaldor casts on GSL:

You seem to like hearing yourself talk.. alot. Up until a few weeks ago it was still kinda bearable thanks to Wolf, but ever since you went on your little MLG/DH trip it has gotten way worse. It is now at a point where you just rudly interrupt Wolf to say exactly what Wolf just started to talk about. Alot of the time you don't even seem to listen to what Wolf says. I fear your ego is getting the better of you. This is not the Khaldor show, its the GSL and the stars are the players and the game.

It has already been stated alot, you critize way to often for the wrong reasons. I'm a very casual SC2 player, but most of the time your ranting even makes me facepalm. Instead of going on a triad, think about what the player was trying to accomplish, why it went wrong and how it affects the game. Minutes of "i cannot believe how bad that was" are just annoying.

The worst casts for me was when you casted with tasteless/artosis. The amount of brown nosing was simply mindboggling. That part where you just couldn't let go of the artosis pylon almost made me want to turn off the stream.

Please don't take that as just hating, it is my honest feedback. I pay for a GSL ticket since open season 1, as of late Code A / GSTL are painfull to watch unless i turn off the sound. Please try to improve.

Phrases i'm sick of:
SOOOOOOOOO something (mostly amazing)
We talked about that alot... (and we all heard it the first time)
Yoduh
Profile Joined August 2010
United States216 Posts
July 18 2012 15:44 GMT
#1051
just finished watching the Real Talk episode with tasteless. I guess khaldor didn't take the advice of not asking the internet for feedback lolz.
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
July 18 2012 16:12 GMT
#1052
You are one of my favourite casters. Alway very professional, and has a great speaking voice. You sometimes focus intensively on minor details, which might be something for you take notice of. Overall great work though!
Opera
Profile Joined March 2011
France469 Posts
July 18 2012 16:52 GMT
#1053
Few pieces of advice :

- Maybe it's due to your experience of solo casting, but you have a tendency to interrupt your co-caster. You should listen to him, you work together. Altought it's very difficult, it's something you should work on. Tasteless and Artosis are amazing at listening to each other and start speaking just as the other finishes.

- You always try to guess the build players are going for. It results in a lot of wrong calls since there are a lot of different builds, and it's even more difficult when you don't play the race. I think you should focus on comparing the two players build and offer 2 or 3 different evolutions for the current situation. For instance "Player A chose to expand early and now goes stargate while Player B forms a really marauder-heavy army. In a direct engagement, it could go very wrong for A since he has almost no ground army. But if A manages to effectively harass B, he could gain enough time to build a really strong immortal army once he scouts this."

- Bias dude ! Bias ! I'm Zerg too, I always root for Zerg but you can't just focus on one player and completely neglect the other one. It takes two players to make a game great and it seems you have some trouble giving both players the same amount of exposure during a game. Try to watch VODs of yourself and measure this.

- Last but not least. Focus on positive things. It's OK to state that a player screwed up his defense but the difference between : "Player A completely missed his force fields and his immortals were stuck in the back, Player B kills every single unit and just has to rally roaches and kill Player A now. Player A really screwed up this engagement." and "Player B really took advantage of Player A mismicro and was able to kill all his army. Player A is really into trouble now, can Player B finish this now ?" is really big. Even if the fact is that Player A totally screwed up his FFs, the second one is more positive.

You have the potential to be a really great caster man ! I love you more than Bitterdam !
It ain't over till it's over
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
July 18 2012 16:54 GMT
#1054
My complaints continue to be:

1) You never sell Wolf's jokes (even if they are bad)
2) There is a weird feeling of animosity between you and Wolf, like at any moment you're going to fight him. I don't like this feeling as a spectator.
3) You both interrupt each other constantly.
4) There is a certain level of arrogance in the casting at times, like you know better than the GSL player. It usually blows up in your face, especially when something is cutting edge that you haven't seen before (i.e. earlier in GSTL when Z deals with P 2base immo all-in with roach/ling base trade -- "A basetrade?! A terrible idea, I don't understand i!" .... Zerg wins)

No one can question your passion and I applaud it -- I just hope you can work on your chemistry and personal interaction with other casters. Best of luck.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Southwards
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States49 Posts
July 18 2012 17:16 GMT
#1055
Khaldor is the alpha male of sc2. Enough said.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 18 2012 17:28 GMT
#1056
Please continue to make fun of Wolf's obsession with hair. It makes my evening.
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RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
July 18 2012 17:37 GMT
#1057
I think you have improved a lot and enjoy your casts.

Suggestions I'd make to improve:

- Don't ratchet up your excitement level so fast... I'd have more build up

- Wolf is kind of an off-beat/weird guy and I feel you don't let that "breathe" enough which contributes to a sort of tension between you

What I like quite a bit:

- I like that you bring non-GSL games from players into the conversation to add more perspective

- I like that you bring up personal anecdotes about players


NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 17:48:08
July 18 2012 17:44 GMT
#1058
I feel like your castings become worse or it was just never good?

Don't like your casting because:

- you and wolf just don't work well together tasteless and artosis are the opposite of this
- You interrupt each other A LOT.
-As others have said you do have A LOT of bias either for zerg or just if you have a favorite player
- like in the first point I made i'm going to go into more detail here: when you guys have a conversation and are casting it just doesn't feel natural at all, it feels forced which makes the casting/conversations between you and wolf raise tension and sometimes make them awkward.
- You make a lot of irrelevant points sometimes
- takes you a long time to get your points across sometimes
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MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
July 18 2012 17:45 GMT
#1059
In the poll there should be an option ''Doing great, but don't like his style'' because it's pretty much what I think.
I think Khaldor is very skilled at what he does, but is too negative in general when he casts and I don't like listening to him rambling on some mistakes he did for 30+ seconds and making it such a big deal.
For example : All players make stupid mistakes in the game sometimes (or sometimes they have a very bad day and make quite a few). Even MKP can misclick a mineral line when transferring his SCVs. You can say it'll put him far behind or help his opponent come back but once that's said go on and discuss other things!
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
July 18 2012 17:47 GMT
#1060
On July 19 2012 00:44 Yoduh wrote:
just finished watching the Real Talk episode with tasteless. I guess khaldor didn't take the advice of not asking the internet for feedback lolz.


Khaldor is man enough (and German enough) to take the good and filter out the bad <3
"En taro adun, Executor."
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