Khaldor's casting for GomTV - Feedback & Poll - Page 53
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 17 2012 02:39 MVega wrote: Overall one of the casters that makes the fewest mistakes. I generally enjoy your casting aside from two things: 1) Miscalling a game due to bias. I respect you quite a bit and I know I couldn't do your job as well as you do, I respect that you, like me, are a person and have favorite players, but don't let that impact how you cast a game featuring one of those players as it's kind of off-putting to people who aren't fans of the same players. You're far from the only caster that does this though, this past weekend at NASL the casters would act as if Stephano had an insurmountable lead every time he moved a zergling, for example. 2) Excessive yelling. I understand getting excited during a game, I do it too, believe me, I've been known to get seriously hyped over some of my players doing impressive things. When I'm hyped and the caster is hyped too that's one thing, but when something fairly run of the mill happens and the caster starts screaming in a really high pitched voice as if it's the most exciting thing ever it's a little cringe worthy. Really though aside from those two things I have no complaints and you're one of my favorite casters. Keep up the good work. to part 2, i think they yell to less xD come on i watched this kespa vs gom on the first week in korean and they seems dying while casting, in compare the english casters sleep while watch xD we need to be more like the koreans cause there casting is very cool xD as german i miss his german casting alot xD | ||
VPVanek
Canada238 Posts
2) You think that you are better than players playing (You are a caster for a reason) 3) Fall off topic too much, nobody cares about you, we want to know about the game | ||
Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On July 18 2012 17:54 VPVanek wrote: 1) You are so biased its really annoying. 2) You think that you are better than players playing (You are a caster for a reason) 3) Fall off topic too much, nobody cares about you, we want to know about the game You are expressing your own opinions as facts, in all three points. This isn't really constructive feedback. | ||
Brainiak
Germany91 Posts
![]() Moreover I think you can improve on building up tension. For me your build up is too fast and seems off, not very authentic. You get exited very fast but you need to grant the average viewer more time to understand why you are so pumped. Maybe this is too strong, but if you cast solely or do not pick up the hints the other casters give you i mute the stream. This is because your predictions are often times totaly wrong and you still think that you are on top of the game. As you get more experience and fill up your knowledge bag i think you can become a great caster. These are my points for you to get better. Grüße Brainiak | ||
TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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Homeland
Denmark58 Posts
My experience of you cast is right now very confusing because you both want to give the strat inside, but wulf does this better than you. You are bad at interrupting wolf aswell, so what would be idea is to do something like what tasteless does. People often underrestimate tasteless because artosis is the strat inside there. But tasteless is very good at making jokes, and dragging things out while being entertaining. But his biggest streghth, and artosis is bad at this, is giving it up for the other caster. He asks artosis questions, and artosis gives the answers. He is therefore piloting the cast, whichout taking attention away from the game and is creating a flow with his co-caster. You need to figure out who does what with Wolf if it is to work, otherwise your are not gaining anything from having you and wolf there. If you and wolf are fighting to tell all the strats of what is going on then Wolf will beat you and you will come out as a lesser caster. And all the wonderfull things you give to the cast will be in vein... | ||
ZeNd0kUn
United States331 Posts
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Floppel
Germany1 Post
You seem to like hearing yourself talk.. alot. Up until a few weeks ago it was still kinda bearable thanks to Wolf, but ever since you went on your little MLG/DH trip it has gotten way worse. It is now at a point where you just rudly interrupt Wolf to say exactly what Wolf just started to talk about. Alot of the time you don't even seem to listen to what Wolf says. I fear your ego is getting the better of you. This is not the Khaldor show, its the GSL and the stars are the players and the game. It has already been stated alot, you critize way to often for the wrong reasons. I'm a very casual SC2 player, but most of the time your ranting even makes me facepalm. Instead of going on a triad, think about what the player was trying to accomplish, why it went wrong and how it affects the game. Minutes of "i cannot believe how bad that was" are just annoying. The worst casts for me was when you casted with tasteless/artosis. The amount of brown nosing was simply mindboggling. That part where you just couldn't let go of the artosis pylon almost made me want to turn off the stream. Please don't take that as just hating, it is my honest feedback. I pay for a GSL ticket since open season 1, as of late Code A / GSTL are painfull to watch unless i turn off the sound. Please try to improve. Phrases i'm sick of: SOOOOOOOOO something (mostly amazing) We talked about that alot... (and we all heard it the first time) | ||
Yoduh
United States216 Posts
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
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Opera
France469 Posts
- Maybe it's due to your experience of solo casting, but you have a tendency to interrupt your co-caster. You should listen to him, you work together. Altought it's very difficult, it's something you should work on. Tasteless and Artosis are amazing at listening to each other and start speaking just as the other finishes. - You always try to guess the build players are going for. It results in a lot of wrong calls since there are a lot of different builds, and it's even more difficult when you don't play the race. I think you should focus on comparing the two players build and offer 2 or 3 different evolutions for the current situation. For instance "Player A chose to expand early and now goes stargate while Player B forms a really marauder-heavy army. In a direct engagement, it could go very wrong for A since he has almost no ground army. But if A manages to effectively harass B, he could gain enough time to build a really strong immortal army once he scouts this." - Bias dude ! Bias ! I'm Zerg too, I always root for Zerg but you can't just focus on one player and completely neglect the other one. It takes two players to make a game great and it seems you have some trouble giving both players the same amount of exposure during a game. Try to watch VODs of yourself and measure this. - Last but not least. Focus on positive things. It's OK to state that a player screwed up his defense but the difference between : "Player A completely missed his force fields and his immortals were stuck in the back, Player B kills every single unit and just has to rally roaches and kill Player A now. Player A really screwed up this engagement." and "Player B really took advantage of Player A mismicro and was able to kill all his army. Player A is really into trouble now, can Player B finish this now ?" is really big. Even if the fact is that Player A totally screwed up his FFs, the second one is more positive. You have the potential to be a really great caster man ! I love you more than Bitterdam ! | ||
IPA
United States3206 Posts
1) You never sell Wolf's jokes (even if they are bad) 2) There is a weird feeling of animosity between you and Wolf, like at any moment you're going to fight him. I don't like this feeling as a spectator. 3) You both interrupt each other constantly. 4) There is a certain level of arrogance in the casting at times, like you know better than the GSL player. It usually blows up in your face, especially when something is cutting edge that you haven't seen before (i.e. earlier in GSTL when Z deals with P 2base immo all-in with roach/ling base trade -- "A basetrade?! A terrible idea, I don't understand i!" .... Zerg wins) No one can question your passion and I applaud it -- I just hope you can work on your chemistry and personal interaction with other casters. Best of luck. | ||
Southwards
United States49 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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RinconH
United States512 Posts
Suggestions I'd make to improve: - Don't ratchet up your excitement level so fast... I'd have more build up - Wolf is kind of an off-beat/weird guy and I feel you don't let that "breathe" enough which contributes to a sort of tension between you What I like quite a bit: - I like that you bring non-GSL games from players into the conversation to add more perspective - I like that you bring up personal anecdotes about players | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
Don't like your casting because: - you and wolf just don't work well together tasteless and artosis are the opposite of this - You interrupt each other A LOT. -As others have said you do have A LOT of bias either for zerg or just if you have a favorite player - like in the first point I made i'm going to go into more detail here: when you guys have a conversation and are casting it just doesn't feel natural at all, it feels forced which makes the casting/conversations between you and wolf raise tension and sometimes make them awkward. - You make a lot of irrelevant points sometimes - takes you a long time to get your points across sometimes | ||
MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
I think Khaldor is very skilled at what he does, but is too negative in general when he casts and I don't like listening to him rambling on some mistakes he did for 30+ seconds and making it such a big deal. For example : All players make stupid mistakes in the game sometimes (or sometimes they have a very bad day and make quite a few). Even MKP can misclick a mineral line when transferring his SCVs. You can say it'll put him far behind or help his opponent come back but once that's said go on and discuss other things! | ||
Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
On July 19 2012 00:44 Yoduh wrote: just finished watching the Real Talk episode with tasteless. I guess khaldor didn't take the advice of not asking the internet for feedback lolz. Khaldor is man enough (and German enough) to take the good and filter out the bad <3 | ||
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