EPTKhaldor's casting for GomTV - Feedback & Poll - Page 50
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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
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xxjondxx
United States89 Posts
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Khaldor
Germany861 Posts
You might not like my response but that's how it is. If you are confronted with such stuff every day you will not end up ignoring everything and I won't either. I'm tired of people hating and inventing stuff and claim it's "feedback". I'm a very emotional and passionate person and I will not apologize for what I wrote as I stand by it. One might criticise my choice of words but people will always find a reason to complain (and if you read through a few pages in ANY feedback thread this will become apparent to you as well). The internet is full of hypochonders who love to tell other people how they should behave while they themselves don't act up on it. As long as people are able to hide behind nicknames they can demand perfection without ever being called out on not living up to it themselves. But these discussions are a waste of time as it is. But you might be happy to know that I am done posting here. I don't even know why I started to post in this thread again as it is. It's pointless to argue with trolls. It's one thing to read and try to take something out of what was written here to improve, but getting involved into these bullshit wannabe discussions is the most stupid thing ever. And I'm a complete idiot for letting it happen again. | ||
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akatsuki.zetsu
Portugal8 Posts
On July 02 2012 02:28 Demorase wrote: Khaldor, you responded to : "This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. " with: "That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome" Do you actually think that: -first: the post deserved that kind of rudeness and agressivity? -second: that even if the post was trash you could respond in that manner? Take the advice your true fans gave you (not the clueless fanboys), when you see a trash post you just ignore it, when you see a well written post (be it negative or positive) you try to read it and take away as much as possible from it. In any case, there's no excuse for your post and even you should have realized it by now. Man up and admit it. On July 02 2012 02:29 xxjondxx wrote: Stop saying someone got raped and stop swearing plz. i feel the same way as these two above me. i also feel that you interrupt wolf too many times. i like your energy but you sometimes forget how hard is to do a 50 marine split to evade 50 banelings or 15 full energy infestors. and, you don't need to reply with "That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard."; | ||
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Demorase
136 Posts
On July 02 2012 02:40 Khaldor wrote: That post was full of bullshit. And I am sick and tired of people fabricating such nonsense. Why on earth would I apologize for what I said? I mean every word. I can't stand it when people bitch only because they want to complain and state things that are simply not true. You might not like my response but that's how it is. If you are confronted with such stuff every day you will not end up ignoring everything and I won't either. I'm tired of people hating and inventing stuff and claim it's "feedback". I'm a very emotional and passionate person and I will not apologize for what I wrote as I stand by it. One might criticise my choice of words but people will always find a reason to complain (and if you read through a few pages in ANY feedback thread this will become apparent to you as well). The internet is full of hypochonders who love to tell other people how they should behave while they themselves don't act up on it. As long as people are able to hide behind nicknames they can demand perfection without ever being called out on not living up to it themselves. But these discussions are a waste of time as it is. But you might be happy to know that I am done posting here. I don't even know why I started to post in this thread again as it is. It's pointless to argue with trolls. It's one thing to read and try to take something out of what was written here to improve, but getting involved into these bullshit wannabe discussions is the most stupid thing ever. And I'm a complete idiot for letting it happen again. Yeah I can understand how reading tons of negative stuff can be very tiresome, I really do. So like I said, do yourself a favour, don't waste time, energy, and reputation with trash posts that won't give you anything and focus on the relevant ones. If you can't do that then yeah maybe you should maybe stop reading this thread all together. But then what was the point of creating this thread to begin with. | ||
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MxGEndeR
United States69 Posts
On July 02 2012 02:40 Khaldor wrote: That post was full of bullshit. And I am sick and tired of people fabricating such nonsense. Why on earth would I apologize for what I said? I mean every word. I can't stand it when people bitch only because they want to complain and state things that are simply not true. You might not like my response but that's how it is. If you are confronted with such stuff every day you will not end up ignoring everything and I won't either. I'm tired of people hating and inventing stuff and claim it's "feedback". I'm a very emotional and passionate person and I will not apologize for what I wrote as I stand by it. One might criticise my choice of words but people will always find a reason to complain (and if you read through a few pages in ANY feedback thread this will become apparent to you as well). The internet is full of hypochonders who love to tell other people how they should behave while they themselves don't act up on it. As long as people are able to hide behind nicknames they can demand perfection without ever being called out on not living up to it themselves. But these discussions are a waste of time as it is. But you might be happy to know that I am done posting here. I don't even know why I started to post in this thread again as it is. It's pointless to argue with trolls. It's one thing to read and try to take something out of what was written here to improve, but getting involved into these bullshit wannabe discussions is the most stupid thing ever. And I'm a complete idiot for letting it happen again. I'm sorry, but you're pathetic. You start a feedback thread then get mad when people give you feedback. That doesn't make sense. "The internet is full of hypochonders who love to tell other people how they should behave while they themselves don't act up on it." So... you're telling people not to be off-base and rude... yet every reply you've given someone you've called their statements (and them) 'fucking annoying.' Khaldor, really, grow the fuck up. Don't start a feedback thread if you can't accept the negative. Go read through your 'fan club' thread if you want to be praised and feel better about your poor quality of casting. | ||
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MWY
Germany284 Posts
On July 02 2012 03:08 SoVAesir wrote: I'm sorry, but you're pathetic. You start a feedback thread then get mad when people give you feedback. That doesn't make sense. "The internet is full of hypochonders who love to tell other people how they should behave while they themselves don't act up on it." So... you're telling people not to be off-base and rude... yet every reply you've given someone you've called their statements (and them) 'fucking annoying.' Khaldor, really, grow the fuck up. Don't start a feedback thread if you can't accept the negative. Go read through your 'fan club' thread if you want to be praised and feel better about your poor quality of casting. fag. Khaldor doesn't always respond with flaming to constructive criticism. But it's not hard to imagine that, when people just make stuff up, call it feedback and then call you bad for it, bad its pretty damn dumb. There are literally ten thousands of casts in which casters say "beautiful marinesplit", "nice splitting", "ohmygodsicksplit" etc., khaldor included. User was warned for this post | ||
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ItchyLegs
Canada369 Posts
On July 02 2012 02:28 Demorase wrote: Khaldor, you responded to : "This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. " with: "That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome" Do you actually think that: -first: the post deserved that kind of rudeness and agressivity? -second: that even if the post was trash you could respond in that manner? Take the advice your true fans gave you (not the clueless fanboys), when you see a trash post you just ignore it, when you see a well written post (be it negative or positive) you try to read it and take away as much as possible from it. In any case, there's no excuse for your post and even you should have realized it by now. Man up and admit it. Agreed. Guy seems hyper-sensitive to criticism. You're obviously going to get "hated on". It's the internet. The post you so harshly responded to was not unreasonable. This is JUST ONE example of this kind of behaviour on your part. If you continue to act this way, you're gonna fuel the fire and more and more people are gonna contribute "hating" posts. The general flow of criticism seems to be that you A) Talk shit too much. This means talking over Wolf, giving blatantly wrong analysis (honestly I don't think you're in a position to give analysis in GSL level games - you are not an english native speaker and you have guys like Artosis and Wolf sitting right there, both who know / can explain better then you) and B) You are overly aggressive. You critique players too harshly, providing "what I would've done" diatribe about scenarios I doubt you have / will ever encounter, and you also miscontrue situations to be more dire / severe then they actually are. | ||
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Jell
Portugal86 Posts
On July 02 2012 02:40 Khaldor wrote: That post was full of bullshit. And I am sick and tired of people fabricating such nonsense. Why on earth would I apologize for what I said? I mean every word. I can't stand it when people bitch only because they want to complain and state things that are simply not true. You might not like my response but that's how it is. If you are confronted with such stuff every day you will not end up ignoring everything and I won't either. I'm tired of people hating and inventing stuff and claim it's "feedback". I'm a very emotional and passionate person and I will not apologize for what I wrote as I stand by it. One might criticise my choice of words but people will always find a reason to complain (and if you read through a few pages in ANY feedback thread this will become apparent to you as well). The internet is full of hypochonders who love to tell other people how they should behave while they themselves don't act up on it. As long as people are able to hide behind nicknames they can demand perfection without ever being called out on not living up to it themselves. But these discussions are a waste of time as it is. But you might be happy to know that I am done posting here. I don't even know why I started to post in this thread again as it is. It's pointless to argue with trolls. It's one thing to read and try to take something out of what was written here to improve, but getting involved into these bullshit wannabe discussions is the most stupid thing ever. And I'm a complete idiot for letting it happen again. It's almost like you didn't expect this when you made this thread. Just ignore what isn't informative and constructive. | ||
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Neitaal
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
On July 02 2012 02:29 xxjondxx wrote: Stop saying someone got raped and stop swearing plz. This. I did it last year, and stopped. I cringe a little when you do it, because while I understand what you mean, it gets a lot of flak. Otherwise, you are wonderful. I would put the khaldor/wolf duo right up with tastosis. | ||
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the_business_og
United States167 Posts
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
On July 02 2012 02:40 Khaldor wrote: That post was full of bullshit. And I am sick and tired of people fabricating such nonsense. Why on earth would I apologize for what I said? I mean every word. I can't stand it when people bitch only because they want to complain and state things that are simply not true. You might not like my response but that's how it is. If you are confronted with such stuff every day you will not end up ignoring everything and I won't either. I'm tired of people hating and inventing stuff and claim it's "feedback". I'm a very emotional and passionate person and I will not apologize for what I wrote as I stand by it. One might criticise my choice of words but people will always find a reason to complain (and if you read through a few pages in ANY feedback thread this will become apparent to you as well). The internet is full of hypochonders who love to tell other people how they should behave while they themselves don't act up on it. As long as people are able to hide behind nicknames they can demand perfection without ever being called out on not living up to it themselves. But these discussions are a waste of time as it is. But you might be happy to know that I am done posting here. I don't even know why I started to post in this thread again as it is. It's pointless to argue with trolls. It's one thing to read and try to take something out of what was written here to improve, but getting involved into these bullshit wannabe discussions is the most stupid thing ever. And I'm a complete idiot for letting it happen again. Khaldor I <3 you and the people who matter do too. You've done an exceptional job and you're really handsome and passionate too. How couldn't someone like you and your excellent work? In the words of Dr. Seus: Those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
I think it's great that you are more comfortable with wolf now that you can have fun banters. Again, your enthusiasm and excitement brings a lot to the casting, keep it up! ALSO I understand that you can no longer edit the opening post, however, you can request any teamliquid administrator to allow you to do so here: Ask TeamLiquid Staff Anything http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=275302 Or you can Create a new Topic Here: Website Feedback Thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=7 OR you can send a PM to Ares[Effort] She usually handles such things. Good luck! | ||
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MxGEndeR
United States69 Posts
On July 02 2012 03:21 MWY wrote: fag. Khaldor doesn't always respond with flaming to constructive criticism. But it's not hard to imagine that, when people just make stuff up, call it feedback and then call you bad for it, bad its pretty damn dumb. There are literally ten thousands of casts in which casters say "beautiful marinesplit", "nice splitting", "ohmygodsicksplit" etc., khaldor included. Wow, so you toss a homophobic slur at me. Very appropriate. None of Khaldors posts in this thread have been positive. How are people making OPINIONS up? If someone says 'I don't like the way you cast because you overemphasize menial things,' how is that made up? It's not hard to watch something that Khaldor casts and realize his voice raises 18 octaves when one Stalker kills two Marines. They've watched the cast, experienced his poor casting, and came to his FEEDBACK thread to voice their FEEDBACK. | ||
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taliana
United Kingdom22 Posts
I do have a few criticisms for you though, it might be something that's already been brought up (and you may even have already responded to it), but I'm not wading through 50 pages of this thread XD; Lately I feel like you have been talking over Wolf a lot. You sometimes butt in in the middle of a sentence (and I know, in a quickly moving game, sometimes you've got to just butt in or whatever you're about to say is going to be too late), and sometimes I feel like you just plain talk over him. I think you are MUCH more assertive than Wolf is, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I think you should definitely keep an eye on yourself and make sure you're not talking over him too much. It doesn't happen all the time, but it does keep coming up in recent casts and I'd like to see you work on that. Sometimes you are a little bit overly negative. I know that it's your job to critique and make calls, and yes you should call someone out for making mistakes, definitely. But I feel like sometimes you write a player off a little bit too soon, or call GG too early, or say that there's reallyno way for someone to come back from something. And maybe that's true, maybe they really are completely fucked and should just GG out already, but maybe if you throw in some more "I can't see how he can come back from this, unless he _____" or since Wolf is the analytical side, you could even throw it to him, asking him what he thinks someone could do to give themselves a fighting chance in an otherwise hopeless situation. I also would like to see you draw a little more from Artosis' style, the way he will point out a mistake but then also try to explain it from that player's perspective, draw on "He might have tried that because of ___, because he didn't realise that ___", just try to spin it in a little more of a positive way. Occassionally you swear a little too much, I had this same issue with it when Jinro swore during one of the Group Selection stages. Do I mind swearing? No. I swear too, and I don't care when other people swear. I also feel like swearing is a little more acceptable to us Europeans than perhaps in other places. But. I do think that it's unprofessional. And yes, I know Tastosis also swear, and I think Wolf has a few times too, but I don't honestly think that it's all that professional. I don't feel like the word Fuck should appear in GOMTV broadcasts, nor in MLG etc. I don't care if it shows up in shows, or personal streams, twitter, anything really, but I really feel that it doesn't have a place in professional broadcasting. I know it can slip out in particularly tense moments, or those "fucking amazing" moments, but I would definitely like to see GOM casters keep a little bit more of a rein on it. I have just one more point to bring up, and I'm only bringing it up in the interest of helping you improve your English. This isn't even a criticism of your casting, or of anything at all actually. It's more of an observation and a suggestion, and one that you're definitely free to ignore. Your English is amazing and I wish that I could speak other languages with the same fluency and confidence that you speak English. I really do envy it. So I'm not bringing this up to be critical like that, it's mostly just because I know my foreign friends do like it when I point out a few things they could work on to take their English to an even higher level. Your grammar is really good most of the time, and I think your vocabulary is rather impressive, you come up with things in the heat of the moment that I would not so quickly think of and I think that's amazing. But your pronounciation is slightly off sometimes. You're definitely understandable, that's for sure, I'm never left wondering what the hell you're on about but some words do stand out as sounding a little funny because of where you put the emphasis. Maybe the emphasised/stressed syllables fall in different places in German? Maybe you and Wolf or someone could sit through one of your casts and take a note of the words you don't get quite right and then you could work on them. One word that comes to mind is "harass" or "harassment", where you put the stress on the first syllable rather than the second where it should be. I know this is such a minor point and I really hope you don't feel like I'm just being a nitpicky little bitch. But as a language learner myself, I know minor little things like this are useful to take note of, and when you're at such an advanced level as you are then I think it's good to focus on finetuning all these little things. Anyway, this was rather long, but I hope you find even a tiny part of it useful! I really enjoy your casts and I'm really glad you're with GOM. I hope to see you casting at more overseas events too! I know you've gotten quite frustrated with some people in this thread, but don't let them get to you, whether they are justified or not. It's not worth it. Focus instead on what you do believe you should be improving, it's a much better use of your time than getting angry with people you don't agree with in here ^^ <3 | ||
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YourAdHere
United States216 Posts
Your enthusiasm/ability to talk quickly/game knowledge/likeability is great. Although I would agree with the above poster who pointed out that you seemed to talk over Wolf a lot. Sometimes it's called for, but if it happens constantly it can be distracting for the viewer. Great job though !  | ||
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David451
United States491 Posts
Your violent homophobia in MKP vs. Symbol game 1 was intolerable. As you and others have indicated in this thread, maybe homophobic jokes are totally chill in Germany, but you're casting on an international stage. When you threatened Wolf with "fists to the face so fast you won't know what's coming" when he joked about touching you, I felt sick. I don't tune into the GSL to see mean-spirited homophobia. | ||
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OneBaseKing
Afghanistan412 Posts
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kazie
258 Posts
On July 02 2012 02:21 Khaldor wrote: Trash people for no reason? Well if you think so, I'll gladly leave you to your opinion. If you think this has anything to do with feedback and constructive criticism be my guest. Im glad that not everybody is like this but that some are eager to help me improve. But as I said: first one has to wade through all the hater-bullshit. If you honestly believe that I don't act on the suggestions made in here you obviously don't listen to my casts which makes your post even more useless to me than they already are.But that's ok Hater's gonna hate. It's just sometimes very tiresome to deal with such crap (on the other hand it's also entertaining). THIS. If you want your feedback to be taken serious than you should give this comment a lot of thought. And also listen to more than only one cast. Pretty sad I can't edit the first post anymore. Makes this entire thread kinda useless unfortunately because most people can't even read up on what I responded to. i am personally your fan but i think you've got something wrong. this thread is to help YOU, not others. if you want to improve then you gutta suck it up and listen to the negative people. they're the ones who have a problem with you, and listening to them will probably help you win over a wider variety of audiance. i've seen a lot of valid comments, that you just tossed off as trash because the person said it in a negative way. you cant honestly expect to improve that much by listening to only the very lightest of criticisms. also im straight but i would appreciate seeing the homophobia toned down next time. it just comes off as being macho and mean | ||
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